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Northerner52 08-22-2017 07:20 AM

New neighborhood Walmart at Sarasota Plaza
 
As the construction nears end and the blacktop is being put down you can get an idea of the parking. I can't imagine there will be enough parking spaces there. The gas station takes up 1/3 of the front, the employees need to park. Looks like it will be hard to find a spot in the small parking lot.

TommyT 08-22-2017 07:47 AM

It's not a Full Service Walmart !!
 
This is called a "Walmart - Neighborhood Market" which is a fancy title for a grocery store. These parking lots are not that large and usually have plenty of spots for shoppers.
But I really hope the designers took into consideration, the IS the Villages and there are a L O T of people here!!! :22yikes:

graciegirl 08-22-2017 07:59 AM

I think it will be a plus. I have learned since moving to The Villages that a lot of people haven't grown up with Walmart and some even have a prejudice against Walmart.

They have huge buying power and often you can find items much less expensive than anywhere. This draws people who have always watched their money and those who must watch their not much money.

Yep. I like Walmart.

karostay 08-22-2017 08:31 AM

More traffic for an already congested area. What were they thinking? How silly of me more money for the developer

Chatbrat 08-22-2017 08:44 AM

Looks like the Shell station will be lucky if he sells 5 gals/month--he's been ripping off people too long--because he was the only show in town @ that end

golf2140 08-22-2017 08:53 AM

Let's see, people asked for more grocery options, The Villages filled that need, now the complaints start !!!!!!!

skip0358 08-22-2017 08:57 AM

:bigbow::bigbow:
Quote:

Originally Posted by golf2140 (Post 1438710)
Let's see, people asked for more grocery options, The Villages filled that need, now the complaints start !!!!!!!


kaseydog 08-22-2017 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1438702)
more traffic for an already congested area. What were they thinking? How silly of me more money for the developer

this area is so congested. Wish tv would address this situation.

Chi-Town 08-22-2017 09:10 AM

Was in a Walmart Neighborhood Market in the Dallas area. Very well laid out for a quick shopping trip. Parking should be OK.

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NotGolfer 08-22-2017 09:13 AM

I just googled neighborhood Walmarts (what do they look like?) The photos shown---well it's basically the grocery store along with the pharmacy area, not unlike grocery chains. So will give the Publix (for those who want it) a fun for their $$$. I'd heard the Colony Publix will be remodeling starting in October (just in time for the seasonal folks return).

autumnspring 08-22-2017 09:22 AM

For all of us
 
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Originally Posted by golf2140 (Post 1438710)
Let's see, people asked for more grocery options, The Villages filled that need, now the complaints start !!!!!!!

It is far easier to complain then to actually DO something.

Anything you do will have both positive and negative results.

RE: WALMART
They are actually the largest employer in the US. Some here will bitch that Walmart does not pay their people enough. These same people will bitch about long lines to pay at Walmart and lack of PEOPLE willing to help you

As to grocery options. We are three miles from Winn Dixie three miles from Publix and about the same from the,"farmer's market." We shop all three by golf cart.

Aw Man 08-22-2017 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golf2140 (Post 1438710)
Let's see, people asked for more grocery options, The Villages filled that need, now the complaints start !!!!!!!

Thank you.
It's amazing to me what people complain about.

graciegirl 08-22-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blicata (Post 1438716)
this area is so congested. Wish tv would address this situation.

They are building commercial just as fast as commercial people sign up. We were in the new Publix way down Morse the other day, quite large.

NotGolfer 08-22-2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1438723)
It is far easier to complain then to actually DO something.

Anything you do will have both positive and negative results.

RE: WALMART
They are actually the largest employer in the US. Some here will bitch that Walmart does not pay their people enough. These same people will bitch about long lines to pay at Walmart and lack of PEOPLE willing to help you

As to grocery options. We are three miles from Winn Dixie three miles from Publix and about the same from the,"farmer's market." We shop all three by golf cart.

I love your comments!! I had the thought of...."how does one know when folks are 'old'?? They hear complaining!" Too much time and too little going on I guess. It takes effort to remain positive! Thanks for offering your opinion and it's so true!!!

Lisa99 08-22-2017 11:34 AM

We live across the street so will be walking 😊

ColdNoMore 08-22-2017 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1438723)
It is far easier to complain then to actually DO something.

Anything you do will have both positive and negative results.

RE: WALMART
They are actually the largest employer in the US. Some here will bitch that Walmart does not pay their people enough.
These same people will bitch about long lines to pay at Walmart and lack of PEOPLE willing to help you

As to grocery options. We are three miles from Winn Dixie three miles from Publix and about the same from the,"farmer's market." We shop all three by golf cart
.



Speaking of which, here's the biggest problem I have with Walmart (and some other large corporations).


https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc.../#3b883aab720b
Quote:

Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance

Walmart's low-wage workers cost U.S. taxpayers an estimated $6.2 billion in public assistance including food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing, according to a report published to coincide with Tax Day, April 15.

While I applaud Walmart's growth into such a large company and provide low prices, I really wished my tax money wasn't needed...helping them do it. :mad:

If by some chance this post gets deleted from complaints, by those who don't like the truth...it doesn't change the facts. :shrug:

kansasr 08-22-2017 12:02 PM

Don't worry...there's always plenty of parking, especially in season, across the street at Publix.....

photo1902 08-22-2017 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1438702)
More traffic for an already congested area. What were they thinking? How silly of me more money for the developer

I'm at the Colony Publix at least twice a week. In addition, I go to the pool store weekly for pool water testing. It always amazes me how people complain about the congestion. If people didn't know any better, they'd think it was like downtown Manhattan. I really don't understand how people think the Colony area is too congested, and too difficult to get in and out of. Good grief!

Henryk 08-22-2017 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1438708)
Looks like the Shell station will be lucky if he sells 5 gals/month--he's been ripping off people too long--because he was the only show in town @ that end

:BigApplause:

sallybowron 08-22-2017 12:48 PM

More money..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1438702)
More traffic for an already congested area. What were they thinking? How silly of me more money for the developer

I am at a loss to see where placing the Walmart in Colony or somewhere else produces more money for the developers. In fact how does the developer benefit from a Walmart at all? Doesn't the benefit go to Walmart?

Yes this is a congested area, but congested area equals more people shopping ergo more money for Walmart. I have realized that even though people in The Bubble sometimes think if a decision does not meet their every need, it is because the developer wants more money. Is this a war, because in a war one side does not produce a beautiful, friendly, wonderful place for so many people to live happily. What don't we all just live happily.
As one of six children I oftentimes didn't get my way. I learned to compromise or to ignore that fact. Life went on.
:crap2:

champion6 08-22-2017 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blicata (Post 1438716)
this area is so congested. Wish tv would address this situation.

Since building Colony Plaza, TV has added Pinellas Plaza, Grand Traverse Plaza and Lake Deaton Plaza.

Bogie Shooter 08-22-2017 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golf2140 (Post 1438710)
Let's see, people asked for more grocery options, The Villages filled that need, now the complaints start !!!!!!!

That happens every time. Just wait till they open, a whole new round of complaining.

Bogie Shooter 08-22-2017 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blicata (Post 1438716)
this area is so congested. Wish tv would address this situation.

What is your solution??

Jima64 08-22-2017 02:58 PM

Love my walmart, crowds and all.

dewilson58 08-22-2017 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1438720)
Was in a Walmart Neighborhood Market in the Dallas area. Very well laid out for a quick shopping trip. Parking should be OK.

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Shopped at one by Grapevine, TX..........enjoyed the experience.

justjim 08-22-2017 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1438791)
I am at a loss to see where placing the Walmart in Colony or somewhere else produces more money for the developers. In fact how does the developer benefit from a Walmart at all? Doesn't the benefit go to Walmart?

Yes this is a congested area, but congested area equals more people shopping ergo more money for Walmart. I have realized that even though people in The Bubble sometimes think if a decision does not meet their every need, it is because the developer wants more money. Is this a war, because in a war one side does not produce a beautiful, friendly, wonderful place for so many people to live happily. What don't we all just live happily.
As one of six children I oftentimes didn't get my way. I learned to compromise or to ignore that fact. Life went on.
:crap2:

The Developer got a few dollars for the land WalMart is sitting on. Likely a long term lease.

I look for most residents to shop at this neighborhood WalMart in their golf carts. Parking will be difficult when it first opens but after that.....,

rubicon 08-22-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1438758)
I love your comments!! I had the thought of...."how does one know when folks are 'old'?? They hear complaining!" Too much time and too little going on I guess. It takes effort to remain positive! Thanks for offering your opinion and it's so true!!!

I joke with my friends and tell them I don't mind living with a lot of other old folks I just hate when they act old. And indeed it does takes effort to remain positive.

However, not all complaints are without merit and not all complaints are because people have too much time on their hands.

I disliked being in long lines when I was a kid in the military and I still do. I disliked congested roads and slow traffic when I was a kid and I still do.............

When I first moved here I was told we were lucky because a Walmart was coming to 466. I replied I prefer it didn't because I didn't want to see 466 become a 441. Look at 466 and its frontage road today

NIMBY is not solely an old age phenomenon .

Now what I have come to believe from being a member on this forum for a few years now is that a sign of old age reflects those posters who continually complain about people's right to complain.

What I have come to believe in life about people who complain about people complaining can be underscored with this old saw DEPENDS ON WHOSE OX IS BEING GORED

Personal Best Regards:

CWGUY 08-22-2017 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Northerner52 (Post 1438665)
As the construction nears end and the blacktop is being put down you can get an idea of the parking. I can't imagine there will be enough parking spaces there. The gas station takes up 1/3 of the front, the employees need to park. Looks like it will be hard to find a spot in the small parking lot.

:shrug: I think the resident expert on parking was zcaveman(sp?) I got some chuckles out of the posts on "The Club Rehab. Parking long before it ever opened.

Aloha1 08-22-2017 05:11 PM

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1438768]Speaking of which, here's the biggest problem I have with Walmart (and some other large corporations).
While I applaud Walmart's growth into such a large company and provide low prices, I really wished my tax money wasn't needed...helping them do it.QUOTE]

Cold, I always respect your opinion but in the spirit of friendly debate are you suggesting that Walmart should not provide ANY jobs to low income people?? A job is a job and the last I checked, no one is being forced to work for Walmart. You should also know that many low income job seekers deliberately gauge how many hours they can work before they lose Federal and State benefits. If you have a concern about wasted tax dollars, that is where I would start.

ColdNoMore 08-22-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1438867)
Cold, I always respect your opinion but in the spirit of friendly debate are you suggesting that Walmart should not provide ANY jobs to low income people?? A job is a job and the last I checked, no one is being forced to work for Walmart. You should also know that many low income job seekers deliberately gauge how many hours they can work before they lose Federal and State benefits. If you have a concern about wasted tax dollars, that is where I would start.

In reciprocity of having a "friendly" debate, and trying to keep this thread from being shut down due to becoming political, let's just say that I don't see the need to subsidize multi-billion dollar companies...or even whole industries for that matter.

Many folks like to grasp at the false idea/stereotype of the 'Welfare Queen' to justify a lot of things, but the truth of the matter is... that there are millions of the 'working poor.'

And I'll just leave it at that...with my appreciation for your reasonable approach. :ho:

asianthree 08-22-2017 06:52 PM

If the area is too congested, just shop elsewhere. We have lots of places to get groceries

MorTech 08-22-2017 07:03 PM

Will it be a 24 hour shop or a pesky 6am-11pm?

Uberschaf 08-22-2017 07:34 PM

After this post started I left my home in Pine Hills to purchase some gas at the Colony Shell and checked out the very large parking lot that the new Walmart neighborhood market has. After five years in The Villages I still see some cutting The Villages down.This is normal after leaving your home town and moving here among strangers. Sometimes people say to me this is not like Chicago or NYC or Minneapolis but it's our home now and we have to make this work. Please try to put aside your differences and let's try to make this our home away from home. Sometimes we don't understand how people are in different parts of this beautiful country.Sometimes they don't get our jokes (or humor) but it is all in good faith. Sometimes I look around and I wonder how I got to where I am, with great friends and their families playing golf and so full of life that I have never seen or never paid attention to until now in my busy life that I had before I moved here. I agree with Grace.The people run this piece of heaven know their stuff and as my old friend John said "It don't get much better than this"

kcrazorbackfan 08-22-2017 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1438708)
Looks like the Shell station will be lucky if he sells 5 gals/month--he's been ripping off people too long--because he was the only show in town @ that end

Additionally, who cares to walk in there in the morning and the counter attendant has a cheap boom box blaring trashy a** rap and as you're leaving she states "have a blessed day". Today was my very last day that I will ever walk through those doors; until the new Wal-Mart opens, I will go out of my way and drive to the Marathon on the other end of 466a to fuel the cart up.

Aloha1 08-22-2017 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uberschaf (Post 1438907)
After this post started I left my home in Pine Hills to purchase some gas at the Colony Shell and checked out the very large parking lot that the new Walmart neighborhood market has. After five years in The Villages I still see some cutting The Villages down.This is normal after leaving your home town and moving here among strangers. Sometimes people say to me this is not like Chicago or NYC or Minneapolis but it's our home now and we have to make this work. Please try to put aside your differences and let's try to make this our home away from home. Sometimes we don't understand how people are in different parts of this beautiful country.Sometimes they don't get our jokes (or humor) but it is all in good faith. Sometimes I look around and I wonder how I got to where I am, with great friends and their families playing golf and so full of life that I have never seen or never paid attention to until now in my busy life that I had before I moved here. I agree with Grace.The people run this piece of heaven know their stuff and as my old friend John said "It don't get much better than this"

All I can say is, AMEN!

Aloha1 08-22-2017 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1438913)
Additionally, who cares to walk in there in the morning and the counter attendant has a cheap boom box blaring trashy a** rap and as you're leaving she states "have a blessed day". Today was my very last day that I will ever walk through those doors; until the new Wal-Mart opens, I will go out of my way and drive to the Marathon on the other end of 466a to fuel the cart up.

I will point out that there is a Circle K Shell due east on 446A/Miller. Only another mile and a half away toward 441 and gas is always 10 cents less than Colony.

Mrs. Robinson 08-23-2017 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1438686)
I think it will be a plus. I have learned since moving to The Villages that a lot of people haven't grown up with Walmart and some even have a prejudice against Walmart.

They have huge buying power and often you can find items much less expensive than anywhere. This draws people who have always watched their money and those who must watch their not much money.

Yep. I like Walmart.

Walmart beats the price on many items compared to other stores. However, those who have a prejudice regarding Walmart, probably have a well-founded prejudice.

There is a huge difference between a Walmart Super Store and a Walmart Neighborhood Market, other than the size of the store.

Walmart Neighborhood stores are traditionally, much more expensive than the Super Stores. My guess is to be prepared for these stores to be on a parallel with Publix, price-wise.

Mrs. Robinson 08-23-2017 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1438768)
Speaking of which, here's the biggest problem I have with Walmart (and some other large corporations).


[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/15/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/#3b883aab720b[/url]


While I applaud Walmart's growth into such a large company and provide low prices, I really wished my tax money wasn't needed...helping them do it. :mad:

If by some chance this post gets deleted from complaints, by those who don't like the truth...it doesn't change the facts. :shrug:

Thank you for posting that! Truthfully, I never thought about Walmart's low wages. Of course many of their people would have to be subsidized, now that you brought this to my attention.

Hmmmmm . . . live and learn.

rubicon 08-23-2017 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uberschaf (Post 1438907)
After this post started I left my home in Pine Hills to purchase some gas at the Colony Shell and checked out the very large parking lot that the new Walmart neighborhood market has. After five years in The Villages I still see some cutting The Villages down.This is normal after leaving your home town and moving here among strangers. Sometimes people say to me this is not like Chicago or NYC or Minneapolis but it's our home now and we have to make this work. Please try to put aside your differences and let's try to make this our home away from home. Sometimes we don't understand how people are in different parts of this beautiful country.Sometimes they don't get our jokes (or humor) but it is all in good faith. Sometimes I look around and I wonder how I got to where I am, with great friends and their families playing golf and so full of life that I have never seen or never paid attention to until now in my busy life that I had before I moved here. I agree with Grace.The people run this piece of heaven know their stuff and as my old friend John said "It don't get much better than this"

"the people who run this place know their stuff"

Well in my humble view if they did they would have built bike trails that were designed solely for bike riders. The MMP would not be MMP's because only golf carts would be allowed. Pedestrians would have nature trails.

Growth would have been better managed because all overbuilding does is over crowd and over crowding causes congested roads, businesses, etc, and critter over populations. Home price ranges would not be so far extended. It would have truly been a gated community. It would have had a Homeowner Association that had some real decision making power...well that is an iffy issue.:D

People who seem hell bent on defending TV also seem hell bent on defending the Developer, and they appear to do so in a tone and manner of taking the high moral ground I don't believe either has to be defended as both speak for themselves.

My view is that of a consumer, tax payer, amenity fees payer and my focus with the Developer et al is transactional because its all about business and business is business and sentimentality results in poor negotiations.

Indeed this is a decent place not the worse not the best
and I do my part with the people I know to make it pleasant. Again this is an observation, an opinion and not a complaint.

Personal Best Regards:

vintageogauge 08-23-2017 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1438959)
"the people who run this place know their stuff"

Well in my humble view if they did they would have built bike trails that were designed solely for bike riders. The MMP would not be MMP's because only golf carts would be allowed. Pedestrians would have nature trails.

Growth would have been better managed because all overbuilding does is over crowd and over crowding causes congested roads, businesses, etc, and critter over populations. Home price ranges would not be so far extended. It would have truly been a gated community. It would have had a Homeowner Association that had some real decision making power...well that is an iffy issue.:D

People who seem hell bent on defending TV also seem hell bent on defending the Developer, and they appear to do so in a tone and manner of taking the high moral ground I don't believe either has to be defended as both speak for themselves.

My view is that of a consumer, tax payer, amenity fees payer and my focus with the Developer et al is transactional because its all about business and business is business and sentimentality results in poor negotiations.

Indeed this is a decent place not the worse not the best
and I do my part with the people I know to make it pleasant. Again this is an observation, an opinion and not a complaint.

Personal Best Regards:

I think you replied to the wrong post, what has this to do about the Walmart parking lot?


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