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Northerner52 09-08-2017 09:23 PM

Hurricane and new home construction
 
How are new homes constructed to resist high winds as it relates to roof, shingles and windows?

jimbo2012 09-08-2017 09:36 PM

Code requires 140 mph

BostonRich 09-08-2017 09:48 PM

Wind Codes for Different Construction Years
 
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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1444976)
Code requires 140 mph

Do you know the code wind requirements for different years? When were the straps required? I have seen conflicting numbers.

graciegirl 09-08-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RAAndre (Post 1444979)
Do you know the code wind requirements for different years? When were the straps required? I have seen conflicting numbers.

If you can be patient for a few more days, there will be a field test and some definitive and observable information.

Wiotte 09-08-2017 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1444989)
If you can be patient for a few more days, there will be a field test and some definitive and observable information.



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jimbo2012 09-08-2017 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RAAndre (Post 1444979)
Do you know the code wind requirements for different years? When were the straps required? I have seen conflicting numbers.

I think after 2002

If you crawl in the attic U can see them

Waverunner 09-08-2017 11:38 PM

I believe straps were part of the 2005 code changes. These were changes post 2004 hurricane season.

BK001 09-09-2017 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1444989)
If you can be patient for a few more days, there will be a field test and some definitive and observable information.

Thanks for the belly laugh. I can't sleep, I'm glued to the weather channel and I am so incredibly nervous. I think I will start cooking some food that we could freeze and then just eat defrosted and at room temp like chili, pea soup, etc etc. in case we lose power.
Anything to keep busy.

Mrs. Robinson 09-09-2017 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1444976)
Code requires 140 mph

I don't see many important requirements in codes for hurricane and/or high wind damage.

All our front doors open in which is a no-no for high winds.
They should be opening out.

Doors and windows are not impact. I question that with 140 mph winds, our windows could stand the strain.

Florida codes could learn a few things that Miami-Dade now enforces since hurricane Andrew in 1992.

I also have not seen any private companies offering hurricane shutters.
We have never seen a Category 5 storm the likes of Irma and I see many opportunities for new businesses to open, providing things that The Villages does not provide in the construction of homes.

jimbo2012 09-09-2017 04:50 AM

it's all over google this zone is 140mph

jimbo2012 09-09-2017 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1445018)


All our front doors open in which is a no-no




For bears!

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The Villages does not provide in the construction of homes.
Incorrect, all are built to current code at the time of the build



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graciegirl 09-09-2017 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1445018)
I don't see many important requirements in codes for hurricane and/or high wind damage.

All our front doors open in which is a no-no for high winds.
They should be opening out.

Doors and windows are not impact. I question that with 140 mph winds, our windows could stand the strain.

Florida codes could learn a few things that Miami-Dade now enforces since hurricane Andrew in 1992.

I also have not seen any private companies offering hurricane shutters.
We have never seen a Category 5 storm the likes of Irma and I see many opportunities for new businesses to open, [B]providing things that The Villages does not provide in the construction of homes??????????????????[/B].

They have. South Florida codes have been integrated into the State Code. See here;

lorida Building Code
Incorporation of South Florida’s Standards
“High Velocity Hurricane Zone(Miami-Dade and Broward Counties)” consists of the strong hurricane provisions adopted by South Florida in response to Hurricane Andrew.

Dan9871 09-09-2017 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1445018)

I also have not seen any private companies offering hurricane shutters.
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I went to the Hurricane prep show at the Savannah Center a few years ago and saw a some vendors selling that were selling quick on/quick off hurricane covers for windows.

Taltarzac725 09-09-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan9871 (Post 1445088)
I went to the Hurricane prep show at the Savannah Center a few years ago and saw a some vendors selling that were selling quick on/quick off hurricane covers for windows.

Our neighbors have some of these. They seem to work well.

Rango 09-09-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1444989)
If you can be patient for a few more days, there will be a field test and some definitive and observable information.

:bigbow:

justjim 09-09-2017 10:07 AM

Somebody correct this if what I was told was wrong. Roofs, windows and doors are of the same hurricane strength wheather you have a concrete block home or a "Stick built" vinyl siding home in The Villages. That being the case, there is little if any, advantage to being in one or the other during a hurricane with winds 100-120 mph. That said, a hip roof vs. a gable roof line might make a difference in the wind. I know some are going to a neighbors because their home is vinyl sided and the neighbors is concrete block and stucco. Just wondering.......

jimbo2012 09-09-2017 10:18 AM

Correct, otherwise the entire system would be compromised

Happinow 09-09-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1445090)
Our neighbors have some of these. They seem to work well.

Probably a lot easier than putting up plywood on all of our windows!!! Ugh. 😞😞

justjim 09-09-2017 03:04 PM

System compromised
 
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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1445129)
Correct, otherwise the entire system would be compromised

Thanks Jimbo, for those who are not as knowledgeable about building can you elaborate just a bit. :clap2:

jimbo2012 09-09-2017 03:10 PM

You can't have any component designed to a lower wind range than the others.

So if the windows were rated at 120mph and the roof at 140mph that makes the entire building safe only to lower range of 120.

Mrs. Robinson 09-10-2017 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1445032)
For bears!



Incorrect, all are built to current code at the time of the build

Yes, I understand that all homes here are built to current code, however, doors which open in offer no protection for hurricane type winds.
That is why doors do not open in, according to code, in Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach counties, etc.

In addition, the framing around each door is only a few inches wide/thick, if you have a door with side lights.
Most of our doors don't offer much support.
That's been proven when some doors have been simply kicked open during break-ins.

jimbo2012 09-10-2017 05:06 AM

there's a difference between someone kicking one spot next to the lock ( say one square foot) vs an even distribution of wind pressure across say 18-20 square foot of the whole door.

So nothing was proven by the break-ins.

South Fl gets higher winds then the rest of the state 180mph vs 140mph for TV.

So let us know Tuesday if hundreds of doors here blow open.:ohdear:




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