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graciegirl 09-09-2017 01:31 PM

The Villages Shelters.
 
Just announced: Villages High School Gym and Paradise Recreation Center will open as a shelter at 4PM. However, No pets.

Taltarzac725 09-09-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1445179)
Just announced: Villages High School Gym and Paradise Recreation Center will open as a shelter at 4PM. However, No pets.

That's useful information. Thanks Graciegirl.

JGVillages 09-09-2017 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1445179)
Just announced: Villages High School Gym and Paradise Recreation Center will open as a shelter at 4PM. However, No pets.

I bet after this is over and done The Villages will re-evaluate their shelter policy. Seems like with all the rec centers and the 3 schools something here could be pet friendly.

Taltarzac725 09-09-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1445290)
I bet after this is over and done The Villages will re-evaluate their shelter policy. Seems like with all the rec centers and the 3 schools something here could be pet friendly.

The Groundhog Day tornado really did a number on one of these Recreation Centers. It had quite a lot of damage. 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak - Wikipedia

My guess is that a lot of these would not withstand very high winds.

golf2140 09-09-2017 08:55 PM

Gracie, what for dinner tomorrow !!!

Barefoot 09-09-2017 11:39 PM

[QUOTE=JGVillages;1445290]I bet after this is over and done The Villages will re-evaluate their shelter policy. Seems like with all the rec centers and the 3 schools something here could be pet friendly.[/QUOTE]
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I agree, seniors should not be put in a position where they can choose safety only if they are willing to abandon their beloved pet that depends on them. There should be one pet-friendly shelter in The Villages for sure.
It could require that all pets be crated, that's a reasonable solution.

NotGolfer 09-10-2017 07:00 AM

I'll probably be pounced upon here....but here goes. We were watching the news last night and they showed a "pet friendly" shelter. The room had ALL the animals separated from their humans, in crates but the noise was horrible. The dogs were mostly barking or whining and shivering! I KNOW folks in manufactured homes need to go somewhere as do their animals BUT it didn't seem like a pleasant experience for these pets. I don't know of another viable solution to this (other than fore-going having a pet). It's a delimma for sure!

I think our community, county and state is doing the best they know how in this dire situation and I for one, appreciate it. The news coverage has been great (if not a bit over-saturated...but they have to do it). LOTS of information on t.v., the radio, the press and social media. IF anyone says "I didn't know!"---then they've been living under a rock!!

blueash 09-10-2017 07:25 AM

Shelters are packed. When it comes to having enough room for people or having utilized space for dogs and cats instead, then no pets should be allowed, period.

Seems that some prioritize pet safety over human safety. If it is your life and you want to die with Fluffy or Mittens, that is your choice, but if the space Fluffy is filling in a shelter has closed it to a human, that is terrible allocation of shelter resources. Animals should get triaged out, people get triaged in.

I "have been told" that the Villages up until now had recently not made their buildings available for shelters is because once in the past when they were allowing use of the school as a shelter, someone damaged some wallpaper. End of use of the buildings.

An ideal shelter has safe space, open floor plan, eg gym or cafeteria areas, a kitchen, bathrooms, and parking. Bonus for showers, bonus for wifi and cable for ability to track news updates.

Villageswimmer 09-10-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1445409)
I'll probably be pounced upon here....but here goes. We were watching the news last night and they showed a "pet friendly" shelter. The room had ALL the animals separated from their humans, in crates but the noise was horrible. The dogs were mostly barking or whining and shivering! I KNOW folks in manufactured homes need to go somewhere as do their animals BUT it didn't seem like a pleasant experience for these pets. I don't know of another viable solution to this (other than fore-going having a pet). It's a delimma for sure!

I think our community, county and state is doing the best they know how in this dire situation and I for one, appreciate it. The news coverage has been great (if not a bit over-saturated...but they have to do it). LOTS of information on t.v., the radio, the press and social media. IF anyone says "I didn't know!"---then they've been living under a rock!!


It's a dilemma for sure. Shelters are not pleasant places but they do save lives.

As to "living under a rock," keep in mind that there are many folks living with dementia who are not capable of planning ahead. Their pet may be their only family. They refuse to leave it behind.

Folks, we all pay taxes to support our respective county EMA. They are the safety net for those who can't make responsible choices. The EMA mission is preparedness for all scenarios. Residents shouldn't be left to perish because they can't bring their pet. This is pathetic.

As to available space, I think it's great the Villages is helping (they aren't required to) but never heard what churches are doing. I didn't see them listed on the county sites but that may have been a preliminary list. I hope so.

Villageswimmer 09-10-2017 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1445422)
Shelters are packed. When it comes to having enough room for people or having utilized space for dogs and cats instead, then no pets should be allowed, period.

Seems that some prioritize pet safety over human safety. If it is your life and you want to die with Fluffy or Mittens, that is your choice, but if the space Fluffy is filling in a shelter has closed it to a human, that is terrible allocation of shelter resources. Animals should get triaged out, people get triaged in.

I "have been told" that the Villages up until now had recently not made their buildings available for shelters is because once in the past when they were allowing use of the school as a shelter, someone damaged some wallpaper. End of use of the buildings.

An ideal shelter has safe space, open floor plan, eg gym or cafeteria areas, a kitchen, bathrooms, and parking. Bonus for showers, bonus for wifi and cable for ability to track news updates.


I agree that people clearly trump pets. No question there. But there are many churches with a LOT of space. Is it being used to help? Don't they have a moral obligation?

Heculez 09-10-2017 08:55 AM

Shelter phone numbers
 
I'm in North Carolina but need to get in touch with storm shelters for my mom and dad that live in The Villages.
Need to contact shelters because of special needs.
But I can not find any phone numbers.
Does any one have a link to Shelter phone numbers???

eremite06 09-10-2017 09:06 AM

The morning after Andrew hit in Homestead we were ordered to break into South Dade High School and make it a shelter. This was August 25th, days before the schools were to be opened. We cut open locks and broke down doors. The reefers in the cafeteria were loaded with food. People in distress really step up and take charge. I'll never forget the woman I placed in charge after we set everything up. Went back a few days later and she had everything squared away.

Oakley 09-10-2017 09:07 AM

we live in philiips villages...we are willing to take someones dog up to 15 pounds until the storm passes or you can get back in your home...respond to the post...or i am at engleson2024@yahoo.com...we have two dogs already....a poodle and king Charles.

Bogie Shooter 09-10-2017 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Heculez (Post 1445469)
I'm in North Carolina but need to get in touch with storm shelters for my mom and dad that live in The Villages.
Need to contact shelters because of special needs.
But I can not find any phone numbers.
Does any one have a link to Shelter phone numbers???

You are kinda late to the party, but
Depending on the county they live, check the web sites for emergency information.

This was posted on another thread....Good Luck
Village Community Development Districts

Sumter County, FL - Official Website
Lake County Emergency Management - Hurricane Harvey & Irma - Speed Wealthy
HURRICANE IRMA — Marion County Sheriff's Office

Villageswimmer 09-10-2017 09:16 AM

If you don't know the county, google
lake county Florida emergency management

That site lists a number of shelters. You probably don't need to live within specific county, but I would ask. They can direct you to closest shelter.

Don't delay!

Villageswimmer 09-10-2017 09:17 AM

What he said. Sorry didn't see previous post.

graciegirl 09-10-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1445422)
Shelters are packed. When it comes to having enough room for people or having utilized space for dogs and cats instead, then no pets should be allowed, period.

Seems that some prioritize pet safety over human safety. If it is your life and you want to die with Fluffy or Mittens, that is your choice, but if the space Fluffy is filling in a shelter has closed it to a human, that is terrible allocation of shelter resources. Animals should get triaged out, people get triaged in.

I "have been told" that the Villages up until now had recently not made their buildings available for shelters is because once in the past when they were allowing use of the school as a shelter, someone damaged some wallpaper. End of use of the buildings.

An ideal shelter has safe space, open floor plan, eg gym or cafeteria areas, a kitchen, bathrooms, and parking. Bonus for showers, bonus for wifi and cable for ability to track news updates.

I agree with your thoughts and I feel ownership of the beautiful rec centers and the wallpaper and it is one of the things that I enjoy very much about this place. That is not a bad thing. It is the same kind of pride people feel about golf courses and folks not replacing divots or driving their cars on them.

Dan9871 09-10-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Heculez (Post 1445469)
I'm in North Carolina but need to get in touch with storm shelters for my mom and dad that live in The Villages.
Need to contact shelters because of special needs.
But I can not find any phone numbers.
Does any one have a link to Shelter phone numbers???

Are they in an evacuation zone, for the villages that would be a manufactured home? Gov said to call:

"Governor Rick Scott tweeted Friday, saying anyone in an evacuation zone who does not have a way to evacuate should call 1-800-342-3557"

Are they in Sumter County

From the Sumter County Emergency Management:

Sumter County, FL - Official Website

" staff will be assisting with the Emergency Operations Center and assisting customers by phone through the week. For assistance or more information, please contact 352-689-4400 and leave a message. Due to call volume, there may be a delay in response. "

Wildwood Community Center is a special needs shelter. I don't know how to contact them.

Henryk 09-10-2017 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1445496)
I agree with your thoughts and I feel ownership of the beautiful rec centers and the wallpaper and it is one of the things that I enjoy very much about this place. That is not a bad thing. It is the same kind of pride people feel about golf courses and folks not replacing divots or driving their cars on them.

Gracie, dear, I'm guessing you're close to the lake. Is that correct? Are you up high? Be safe, dear.

justjim 09-10-2017 09:37 AM

Human life is much more important but most can agree no shelter for pets and residents who have been told to evacuate is problematic in The Villages. If a decision must be made to leave their pets it's hard but still the right decision.

That said, hopefully friends and neighbors can take these pets and Village neighbors into a safe place.

maryanna630 09-10-2017 12:40 PM

How kind of you, Oakley.

Barefoot 09-10-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oakley (Post 1445477)
we live in philiips villages...we are willing to take someones dog up to 15 pounds until the storm passes or you can get back in your home...respond to the post...or i am at engleson2024@yahoo.com...we have two dogs already....a poodle and king Charles.

Bless you.

graciegirl 09-10-2017 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heculez (Post 1445469)
I'm in North Carolina but need to get in touch with storm shelters for my mom and dad that live in The Villages.
Need to contact shelters because of special needs.
But I can not find any phone numbers.
Does any one have a link to Shelter phone numbers???

Did anybody ever say there is no use rushing into things? Your mom and dad you say?

Barefoot 09-10-2017 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heculez (Post 1445469)
I'm in North Carolina but need to get in touch with storm shelters for my mom and dad that live in The Villages.
Need to contact shelters because of special needs.
But I can not find any phone numbers.
Does any one have a link to Shelter phone numbers???

Lots of options have been posted. Please get on the phone, and best of luck to your mom and dad.

Chi33 09-10-2017 01:52 PM

Its is never a human OR pet situation. Its the government opening up unused space. There is a ton of space. We aren't getting in a lifeboat.

JGVillages 09-10-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1445422)
Shelters are packed. When it comes to having enough room for people or having utilized space for dogs and cats instead, then no pets should be allowed, period.

Seems that some prioritize pet safety over human safety. If it is your life and you want to die with Fluffy or Mittens, that is your choice, but if the space Fluffy is filling in a shelter has closed it to a human, that is terrible allocation of shelter resources. Animals should get triaged out, people get triaged in.

I "have been told" that the Villages up until now had recently not made their buildings available for shelters is because once in the past when they were allowing use of the school as a shelter, someone damaged some wallpaper. End of use of the buildings.

An ideal shelter has safe space, open floor plan, eg gym or cafeteria areas, a kitchen, bathrooms, and parking. Bonus for showers, bonus for wifi and cable for ability to track news updates.

Never herd of a shelter turning people away because "fluffy" was taking their spot. Gee, wallpaper was damaged so don't allow it's use as a shelter?? This storm will definitely open a discussion of shelters in The Villages. With all the facilities we have, certainly quite a few could be shelters, and with proper pre-planning some pet shelters. If this doesn't happen, shame on the Developer.

Villageswimmer 09-10-2017 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1445679)
Never herd of a shelter turning people away because "fluffy" was taking their spot. Gee, wallpaper was damaged so don't allow it's use as a shelter?? This storm will definitely open a discussion of shelters in The Villages. With all the facilities we have, certainly quite a few could be shelters, and with proper pre-planning some pet shelters. If this doesn't happen, shame on the Developer.


Well, no. Shame on the County EMAs if they're not prepared. That's our tax dollars at work. If there aren't enough government facilities available, they should have made arrangements with churches, etc. a long time ago. Preparedness plans should be tested at least once/year.

Barefoot 09-10-2017 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1445422)
I "have been told" that the Villages up until now had recently not made their buildings available for shelters is because once in the past when they were allowing use of the school as a shelter, someone damaged some wallpaper. End of use of the buildings.

Another unsubstantiated rumor?
If TV buildings aren't being used for shelters, I highly doubt it's because of damaged wallpaper.
GG posted that the Villages High School Gym and Paradise Rec Center would be open to those seeking shelters.
People in well-built homes are probably staying put.
I do agree that there should be a pet-friendly Villages shelter available for mobile home evacuees.

Wiotte 09-10-2017 04:36 PM

If there were an event that necessitated the use of our rec centers to shelter our populace there is NOTHING the developer could do to stop it. People will do what is necessary to survive and take care of each other during an emergency. No worries, the rec centers will be available to all.

blueash 09-10-2017 05:16 PM

Just to follow up. I heard about the wall paper from a person who is in the know in Sumter County's emergency planning. I think this person is reliable and the story was told me a couple years ago. Janet Tutt's recent comment on the site that shall not be named

Quote:

“People are very unhappy that recreation centers are not being used as shelters,” District Manager Janet Tutt said Friday. “There are good reasons that they are not used as shelters.”
I don't know what the "good reasons" are, she does.
Lastly there have already been stories of people being turned away from a pet shelter if they showed up there with no pet! Many shelters are full. The Sumter County Special Needs shelter in Wildwood was over its capacity by 8 PM last night with more clients expected over night and today. So there is not always more room.

As to churches, they may not be hurricane safe, lots of windows or they may just not have staff and have real insurance concerns. I am not going to second guess why a particular church is open or closed, but it might be they expect the civil authorities to be able to handle this kind of emergency.

Heculez 09-10-2017 07:22 PM

Thanks for the links and advice.
 
Just wanted to thank those that were trying to help me find shelter for parents if needed.
I was able to get info thru your help.
Prayers that everyone will be ok...
Britt

Villageswimmer 09-11-2017 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Heculez (Post 1445875)
Just wanted to thank those that were trying to help me find shelter for parents if needed.
I was able to get info thru your help.
Prayers that everyone will be ok...
Britt

thank you for coming back to let us know your parents are safe, Britt. So happy to hear this.

JanBrown 09-13-2017 11:15 PM

Shelters at churches during Hurricane Irma
 
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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1445428)
As to available space, I think it's great the Villages is helping (they aren't required to) but never heard what churches are doing. I didn't see them listed on the county sites but that may have been a preliminary list. I hope so.

Actually, I heard of 2 churches: Freedom Pointe and my church, 1st Baptist of Lady Lake (466 just past Rolling Acres).


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