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Henryk 09-09-2017 02:11 PM

Where is guidance from TV?
 
Please tell me if I'm wrong or overly critical.

I don't think I've heard anything from Tutt.

Where is the guidance? Where are the ongoing updates? Why aren't the Rec Centers (not just one) open for people needing shelter and comfort?

Is it me?

EDIT: It's me. I've been taken behind the barn. I guess I was a bit hasty in my criticism. I just want my neighbors to be safe. Apologies to anyone I have offended.

graciegirl 09-09-2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445193)
Please tell me if I'm wrong or overly critical.

I don't think I've heard anything from Tutt.

Where is the guidance? Where are the ongoing updates? Why aren't the Rec Centers (not just one) open for people needing shelter and comfort?

Is it me?

They aren't our mother. They are builders. You cannot get blood out of a turnip, or expect it.

Bogie Shooter 09-09-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445193)
Please tell me if I'm wrong or overly critical.

I don't think I've heard anything from Tutt.

Where is the guidance? Where are the ongoing updates? Why aren't the Rec Centers (not just one) open for people needing shelter and comfort?

Is it me?

The guidance is here:
Village Community Development Districts (This is Tutt's Boss)

Sumter County, FL - Official Website
Lake County Emergency Management - Hurricane Harvey & Irma - Speed Wealthy
HURRICANE IRMA — Marion County Sheriff's Office

Plus all the network TV stations.

Plus many informative posts right here on TOTV.

The rec centers that are open are for those living in mfg homes and low lying areas.

What additional hand holding would you require from District management?

IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF SHELTER CALL YOUR COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

Henryk 09-09-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1445195)
They aren't our mother. They are builders. You cannot get blood out of a turnip, or expect it.

Bless you, dear. Blood out of a turnip? LOL! Still, they're the district government. I expect better.

Stay safe and dry.

Henryk 09-09-2017 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1445198)
The guidance is here:
Village Community Development Districts (This is Tutt's Boss)

Sumter County, FL - Official Website
Lake County Emergency Management - Hurricane Harvey & Irma - Speed Wealthy
HURRICANE IRMA — Marion County Sheriff's Office

Plus all the network TV stations.

Plus many informative posts right here on TOTV.

The rec centers that are open are for those living in mfg homes and low lying areas.

What additional hand holding would you require from District management?

IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF SHELTER CALL YOUR COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

Bogie: perhaps I actually am too critical. For me and my husband, we're fine. I worry about others in our Villas. I have organized a list of who is staying and who they can call if they need help. We'll also be going door to door when the weather permits.

We're fortunate. We're younger than most of our neighbors and want to help them if we can. I just want them to be safe.

Thank you for your input.

NotGolfer 09-09-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445203)
Bogie: perhaps I actually am too critical. For me and my husband, we're fine. I worry about others in our Villas. I have organized a list of who is staying and who they can call if they need help. We'll also be going door to door when the weather permits.

We're fortunate. We're younger than most of our neighbors and want to help them if we can. I just want them to be safe.

Thank you for your input.

Good for you in watching out for your neighbors! That's as it should be with ALL of us as we are able (some are not as you stated). I think we got plenty of guidance via all sorts of social media, t.v., the radio, the newspaper and more. I personally don't feel it's up to "the developer" to guide us...but that's just me! Be well and stay safe!

Bonny 09-09-2017 02:49 PM

We are grown up people. It's in the papers, it's all over the news, there are shelters. We are getting all kinds of guidance. They are listing everything, todays paper was full of guidance.
What is it you expect the Villages to do? :shrug: :confused:

Bosoxfan 09-09-2017 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1445208)
We are grown up people. It's in the papers, it's all over the news, there are shelters. We are getting all kinds of guidance. They are listing everything, todays paper was full of guidance.
What is it you expect the Villages to do? :shrug: :confused:

Entitled folks expect to be spoon fed info

socrafty 09-09-2017 02:52 PM

I have the villages daily sun app on my phone. They have been sending some good information.

lorilorilori 09-09-2017 02:55 PM

I signed up for village gov emails and getting them re the Storm.

If u don't sign up - how is TV supposed to reach you. By letter to arrive next week ?

Henryk 09-09-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1445210)
Entitled folks expect to be spoon fed info

I don't feel entitled and I don't expect to be spoon fed. Sorry you got the wrong idea.

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Cape Cod 17 years. Hurricanes, nor'easters and all.

Henryk 09-09-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1445208)
We are grown up people. It's in the papers, it's all over the news, there are shelters. We are getting all kinds of guidance. They are listing everything, todays paper was full of guidance.
What is it you expect the Villages to do? :shrug: :confused:

Oh gee, Bonny. I guess I opened a can of worms.

golf2140 09-09-2017 03:03 PM

I have been getting updates from The Villages for the past few days. They are doing a great job.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-09-2017 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445193)
Please tell me if I'm wrong or overly critical.

I don't think I've heard anything from Tutt.

Where is the guidance? Where are the ongoing updates? Why aren't the Rec Centers (not just one) open for people needing shelter and comfort?

Is it me?

There are state and federal rules for what constitutes a hurricane shelter and our rec centers don't comply.

Here2Stay 09-09-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1445195)
They aren't our mother. They are builders. You cannot get blood out of a turnip, or expect it.

OH MY, no one said we needed a mother! What should be expected is word from the Villages if any local Village property is being used for anyone in great need! Oh my Graciegirl, not a time to be harsh with people's concerns

Bosoxfan 09-09-2017 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445215)
I don't feel entitled and I don't expect to be spoon fed. Sorry you got the wrong idea.

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Cape Cod 17 years. Hurricanes, nor'easters and all.

Sorry for the attack...I'm just getting really tired of folks expecting the Villages to hold their hands through every challenge they come across. A lot of folks feel like I pay my amenities so why isn't this being done for me...from free coffee in the sales lobbies ...to mail box locations ..to protecting us from the outside.. because we bought in to the lifestyle we shouldn't have to take care of ourselves...Once again I apologize to you ..

Bogie Shooter 09-09-2017 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445215)
I don't feel entitled and I don't expect to be spoon fed. Sorry you got the wrong idea.

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Cape Cod 17 years. Hurricanes, nor'easters and all.

Go and re-read your OP and them tell us how we got the wrong idea.....................

Chi33 09-09-2017 03:31 PM

My dog doesn't have a crate, and I am going no place without her (my world). The Villages management should protect the people who make the money for them. I pay amenities. And before the hate, my friend's family lost a child in his sister island of Antigua (Barbuda) and another friend is down near Naples. At least my neighborhood watches each other here. Many have it worse than we do.

Henryk 09-09-2017 03:36 PM

Bosox: thank you. You're kind.
Bogie: my apologies. I was hasty.
Here2Stay: Gracie is a wonderful person. She's not harsh.

Boy do I wish I hadn't started this thread.

Polar Bear 09-09-2017 03:37 PM

Whew. Being a bit harsh imho. I agree with most of you that TV has done everything reasonable to provide info and help. But I thought the op was pretty reasonable asking his question also...even admitting the possibility that it might just be him. I think he was admitting to the possibility that he's simply not as up-on-things as some of you.

Be nice, folks. The storm has all of us a little edgy.

Polar Bear 09-09-2017 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445238)
...Boy do I wish I hadn't started this thread.

Been there, Henryk. I think many of us have. Don't lose any sleep over it. :)

graciegirl 09-09-2017 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445238)
Bosox: thank you. You're kind.
Bogie: my apologies. I was hasty.
Here2Stay: Gracie is a wonderful person. She's not harsh.

Boy do I wish I hadn't started this thread.

I am sorry. I was harsh. I think we all are just a little scared and stressed.

rustyp 09-09-2017 04:14 PM

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eremite06 09-09-2017 04:23 PM

How about storm shudders guidance? Allowed? Specs? How long allowed installed, etc???

Gpsma 09-09-2017 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1445195)
They aren't our mother. They are builders. You cannot get blood out of a turnip, or expect it.

Couldnt be better said.

Bonny 09-09-2017 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445238)
Bosox: thank you. You're kind.
Bogie: my apologies. I was hasty.
Here2Stay: Gracie is a wonderful person. She's not harsh.

Boy do I wish I hadn't started this thread.

No problem, life will go on and all will be good! :D

asianthree 09-09-2017 06:17 PM

At least there are a few threads of something other than Irma. Still watching old comedies. Lock in a house for a few days will make anyone a little stir crazy

John_W 09-09-2017 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445193)
Where are the ongoing updates?

Why aren't the Rec Centers (not just one) open for people needing shelter and comfort?

Updates: On TV Orlando Channel 2, Fox News, MSNBC and CNN to name a few. On the internet, anyone of those news organizations websites, plus weather.com or intellicast.com

Rec Center for shelter. The Rec Centers are built from the same material and by the same people that built your house. So if you're not safe in your house, then you're not safe in a rec center. If you live in a mobile home on the historic side, then The Villages High School is open as a shelter and Gracie posted that an hour before your post was made.

Here is a live webcam at Sloppy Joe's Bar in Key West, I've been watching it all day. You might have to give it a minute or so to load, I'm sure there are a lot of people watching.

http://www.liveduvalstreet.com/

Live adjustable radar, I've been looking at this off and on all day. Just take your mouse and you can zoom out a little and then drag the area around Key West and Cuba. On the legend, you click radar and satellite so you'll get a mix of precip and cloud cover and then you'll see the eye. You can also put in motion with the buttom at the bottom. You can lighten the clouds and rain so you'll be able to see the map underneath by using the 'opacity' adjustment. Just play around with it and you can get a good picture of what's going on.

Intellicast - Weather Active Map

skip0358 09-09-2017 06:46 PM

What I don't understand very few people on here are new. Most have lived here many years and it seems like they've had there heads in the sand. You should know where shelters are before an emergency comes, you should know all about what is it isn't available and where everything is. In an emergency there is no time to say NOBODY TOLD ME THAT. MOST EVERYTHING INVOLVING THE VILLAGES IS EITHER ON THEIR WEB PAGE, IN THE NEWSPAPER OR POSTED AS TO WHERE TO GET INFO.My phone, tablet and newspapers have been full of info for several days. Not all shelters will let you have pets for a good reason could you imagine a shelter with maybe 100mscared animals in it? I sure wouldn't wantbtombe there. I know I'm going to catch crap for this but really people plan ahead a little.

Paper1 09-09-2017 08:58 PM

Please help me understand the value or entertainment value of ridiculing a fellow Villager because he or she asks a question or shares a thought.

Barefoot 09-09-2017 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445203)
For me and my husband, we're fine. I worry about others in our Villas. I have organized a list of who is staying and who they can call if they need help. We'll also be going door to door when the weather permits.
We're fortunate. We're younger than most of our neighbors and want to help them if we can. I just want them to be safe.

You are a very kind couple to be concerned about the safety of others.
And going door to door to check on neighbors when the weather permits, that's the spirit of love. :thumbup:

Carl in Tampa 09-09-2017 11:16 PM

National Weather Service
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1445193)
Please tell me if I'm wrong or overly critical.

I don't think I've heard anything from Tutt.

Where is the guidance? Where are the ongoing updates? Why aren't the Rec Centers (not just one) open for people needing shelter and comfort?

Is it me?

EDIT: It's me. I've been taken behind the barn. I guess I was a bit hasty in my criticism. I just want my neighbors to be safe. Apologies to anyone I have offended.

I've come late to the party, but just for information for everyone, under the Florida Constitution the Sheriff of your county is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer for the county. He is the law enforcement Emergency Coordinator in an Emergency and even has the authority to bring local city police under his jurisdiction. He is probably also involved in Department of Homeland Security activities.

He participates in the joint decisions of the Emergency Operations Center when it is activated. It is the Emergency Operations Center that should be making news releases about the locations of Emergency Shelters and the conditions for their use; such as whether or not pets are allowed. The EOC should have made determinations regarding the locations of the Shelters long ago, and merely had to decide which ones to open first.

A community development district (CDD) is a local, special-purpose government framework authorized by Chapter 190 of the Florida Statutes as amended, and is an alternative to municipal incorporation for managing and financing infrastructure required to support development of a community.

CDDs have no function in notifying people of emergency situations.

Look to your county EOC, the local TV and Radio stations, and your friends and neighbors regarding the current situation. After all, everyone else is just parroting the National Weather Service.

Taltarzac725 09-10-2017 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1445356)
I've come late to the party, but just for information for everyone, under the Florida Constitution the Sheriff of your county is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer for the county. He is the law enforcement Emergency Coordinator in an Emergency and even has the authority to bring local city police under his jurisdiction. He is probably also involved in Department of Homeland Security activities.

He participates in the joint decisions of the Emergency Operations Center when it is activated. It is the Emergency Operations Center that should be making news releases about the locations of Emergency Shelters and the conditions for their use; such as whether or not pets are allowed. The EOC should have made determinations regarding the locations of the Shelters long ago, and merely had to decide which ones to open first.

A community development district (CDD) is a local, special-purpose government framework authorized by Chapter 190 of the Florida Statutes as amended, and is an alternative to municipal incorporation for managing and financing infrastructure required to support development of a community.

CDDs have no function in notifying people of emergency situations.

Look to your county EOC, the local TV and Radio stations, and your friends and neighbors regarding the current situation. After all, everyone else is just parroting the National Weather Service.

The Governor usually has these kind of people standing behind him when he gives his speeches about Irma in Florida. Sheriffs, National Guard leaders and some troops, various State authorities, ete., but not any of the Morses.


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