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jalopy54 09-16-2017 07:29 AM

Irrigating Our Lawns
 
Is there still a water band? If so why? Looks to me like if villagers would all water there lawns. The flooded areas would recede?

Ooper 09-16-2017 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jalopy54 (Post 1448813)
Is there still a water band? If so why? Looks to me like if villagers would all water there lawns. The flooded areas would recede?

??? Turning on my irrigation would just up my water bill.

CWGUY 09-16-2017 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jalopy54 (Post 1448813)
Is there still a water band? If so why? Looks to me like if villagers would all water there lawns. The flooded areas would recede?

:ohdear:

MrGolf 09-16-2017 09:19 AM

The OP asked a simple question. The answer is yes, there still is a ban. That might change but as of today, yes.

dnobles 09-16-2017 09:22 AM

It's nice to see someone be kind and just answer the question.

Polar Bear 09-16-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dnobles (Post 1448869)
It's nice to see someone be kind and just answer the question.

Yes. It does happen on occasion. :)

l2ridehd 09-16-2017 10:05 AM

By keeping this surcharge in place the water district has caused the flooding problem to be worse than necessary. They have created an environment that has increased the damages in TV by 100's of thousands of $$$$$. From about a month before Irma and to the current day there is NO irrigation water issue. If they were to argue there still is than a ban on new construction should be put in place immediately.

The ban and continued building should not go hand in hand. Either the water district is using the surcharge as a revenue rape of all of us, or the shortage is real and TV should stop building.

You can't have it both ways.

CWGUY 09-16-2017 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jalopy54 (Post 1448813)
Is there still a water band? If so why? Looks to me like if villagers would all water there lawns. The flooded areas would recede?

:wave:Is there still a water band? YES If so why? WE DON'T GET A SAY Looks to me like if villagers would all water there lawns. The flooded areas would recede? NO.... THAT'S NOT WHERE THE WATER COMES FROM

tuccillo 09-16-2017 10:31 AM

OK, I'll bite. Please explain your reasoning for such a statement.


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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1448895)
By keeping this surcharge in place the water district has caused the flooding problem to be worse than necessary. They have created an environment that has increased the damages in TV by 100's of thousands of $$$$$. From about a month before Irma and to the current day there is NO irrigation water issue. If they were to argue there still is than a ban on new construction should be put in place immediately.

The ban and continued building should not go hand in hand. Either the water district is using the surcharge as a revenue rape of all of us, or the shortage is real and TV should stop building.

You can't have it both ways.


CWGUY 09-16-2017 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1448912)
OK, I'll bite. Please explain your reasoning for such a statement.

:ohdear: Don't you find it amazing?

perrjojo 09-16-2017 10:36 AM

I have used my irrigation system twice since the water ban. Why? Because it rains nearly every day and I don't need too.

tuccillo 09-16-2017 10:41 AM

Bingo! I turned my off on June 1 and haven't turned in back on since.

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1448916)
I have used my irrigation system twice since the water ban. Why? Because it rains nearly every day and I don't need too.


l2ridehd 09-16-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1448912)
OK, I'll bite. Please explain your reasoning for such a statement.

Because folks were not watering as much as usual because of the surcharge and ban, therefor the retention ponds were much higher than usual before Irma, which is where the irrigation water comes from, than with Irma the ponds overflowed and caused a lot of flooding and damage.

And for those that turned off the irrigation when the ban was put in place, I guess you don't care should you lose your lawn. Only costs about $20 grand to replace it. Yes we had a lot of rain and that may have prevented lawn damage, but suppose you were on vacation and it didn't rain?

Ooper 09-16-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 1448818)
??? Turning on my irrigation would just up my water bill.

Not trying to be smart... I didn't know if there is still a ban, but regardless, the statement the OP says doesn't make any sense. Running my irrigation would have absolutely no affect on the pond levels.

jalopy54 09-16-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1448899)
:wave:Is there still a water band? YES If so why? WE DON'T GET A SAY Looks to me like if villagers would all water there lawns. The flooded areas would recede? NO.... THAT'S NOT WHERE THE WATER COMES FROM

Where does the water come from?

crash 09-16-2017 11:32 AM

CWguy is correct on both counts there is still a ban and our sprinkler water does not come out of the retention ponds so would not help with flooding.

They are running the golf course and common area sprinklers to lower the ponds because the water from those areas does come from the retention ponds.

tuccillo 09-16-2017 11:35 AM

OK, lets take this step by step. You are only suppose to water twice per week so the ban would cut you down to once per week. Since many homes have rain sensors, the actual amount of watering would have been reduced. June was well above normal for precip, July as a bit below normal, and August was above normal. North of 466, the irrigation water does not come from the retention ponds. South of 466 the residential irrigation water does come from retention ponds and other sources. Without some real data, it is pure speculation that the reduction in watering from 2 days to 1 day resulted in the "retention ponds being much higher that usual". I live on a retention pond and it was about normal when compared to previous summers. The reason the retention ponds overflowed (mine didn't, by the way, but it was up by 4 feet) was we got 12" of rain in a very short period of time.

I was not concerned about "losing my yard". I have lived in the southeast for over 20 years and have always turned off my irrigation system in the summer. It rains a lot in the summer.


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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1448929)
Because folks were not watering as much as usual because of the surcharge and ban, therefor the retention ponds were much higher than usual before Irma, which is where the irrigation water comes from, than with Irma the ponds overflowed and caused a lot of flooding and damage.

And for those that turned off the irrigation when the ban was put in place, I guess you don't care should you lose your lawn. Only costs about $20 grand to replace it. Yes we had a lot of rain and that may have prevented lawn damage, but suppose you were on vacation and it didn't rain?


Wiotte 09-16-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1448895)
By keeping this surcharge in place the water district has caused the flooding problem to be worse than necessary. They have created an environment that has increased the damages in TV by 100's of thousands of $$$$$. From about a month before Irma and to the current day there is NO irrigation water issue. If they were to argue there still is than a ban on new construction should be put in place immediately.



The ban and continued building should not go hand in hand. Either the water district is using the surcharge as a revenue rape of all of us, or the shortage is real and TV should stop building.



You can't have it both ways.



Who regulates this water district ? Don't we have a Florida legislator that can look into this very real 10% surcharge based on a very bogus drought these past few months.




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JoMar 09-16-2017 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1448912)
OK, I'll bite. Please explain your reasoning for such a statement.

It's just the posters opinion.....as most posts are.

Bogie Shooter 09-16-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1448941)
Who regulates this water district ? Don't we have a Florida legislator that can look into this very real 10% surcharge based on a very bogus drought these past few months.




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Water board members are appointed by the governor. Most have no knowledge or background in water management.

Wiotte 09-16-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1448981)
Water board members are appointed by the governor. Most have no knowledge or background in water management.



So, doesn't the governor have people that oversee what these board members do ?


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Bogie Shooter 09-16-2017 02:26 PM

Google is your answer.

coffeebean 09-16-2017 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 1448930)
Not trying to be smart... I didn't know if there is still a ban, but regardless, the statement the OP says doesn't make any sense. Running my irrigation would have absolutely no affect on the pond levels.

Now I'm confused. Doesn't the water for the irrigation systems come from the retention ponds? Isn't that the reason for the common areas irrigation systems on now during the day, every day? Isn't this the goal to empty the retention ponds and therefore alleviate the flooding we still have?

l2ridehd 09-16-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1449025)
Now I'm confused. Doesn't the water for the irrigation systems come from the retention ponds? Isn't that the reason for the common areas irrigation systems on now during the day, every day? Isn't this the goal to empty the retention ponds and therefore alleviate the flooding we still have?

The confusion comes in because in different parts of the Villages, the irrigation water comes from different sources. Where I live South of 466 it comes from the retention ponds and other non-potable water sources. Watering our lawns would help lower the level of the flooding in over 65% of the Villages, 466 and South. But we don't because of the ban and the surcharge. It just seems such a dumb way to manage a problem. But that seems to be the way appointed positions manage because they are really not qualified.

kcrazorbackfan 09-16-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jalopy54 (Post 1448813)
Is there still a water band? If so why? Looks to me like if villagers would all water there lawns. The flooded areas would recede?

I'm doing my part. Even though we had an incredible amount of rain, the sun will dry these sandy soils out quickly.


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