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jdsl1998 10-07-2009 09:22 AM

pool issues
 
Why do people bring floats and people under 35 (reading a 17 magazine is a dead give away) to the pool? It just makes me uncomfortable. Or jealous that I follow rules, that I wish were different, when my kids come to town and I'd love to float too.....but, rules are rules........for the good of all and all that.
Thanks, just needed to vent

katezbox 10-07-2009 09:56 AM

1998,

Can you elaborate? Which pool?

By floats, do you mean the inflatables that your can lie down on or the "noodles" tied together?

I have only brought underage guests to the pool once - and we went to Truman where children and young adults are allowed. People also had noodles and were floating around.

Thank you.

SteveFromNY 10-07-2009 10:01 AM

I guess you're talking about a family pool rather than an adult pool?
Why can't someone under 35 go to a family pool? They can go to an adult pool too as long as they are over 30.
Are there rules about floats? Seems like lots and lots of people carry around those "noodles" tied together in a D shape for floating in. I haven't seen anything posted about floats at the pool.
Why does it bother you so much?

Bogie Shooter 10-07-2009 10:28 AM

See pool guidelines....
http://www.districtgov.org/images/RecGuide.pdf

under55 10-07-2009 10:49 AM

According to that document the only restriction on floats is at the Family Pool?

Barefoot 10-07-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdsl1998 (Post 228428)
Why do people bring floats and people under 35 (reading a 17 magazine is a dead give away) to the pool? It just makes me uncomfortable. Or jealous that I follow rules, that I wish were different, when my kids come to town and I'd love to float too.....but, rules are rules........for the good of all and all that.
Thanks, just needed to vent

I'm totally confused .. JDSL, can you explain?

I thought anyone over 18 was allowed at an adult pool? Is there a "people under 35" rule that I missed? And I thought noodles were allowed .. it seems as if everyone has them. :confused:

BritParrothead 10-07-2009 11:47 AM

Last year our son was I.D at an adult pool. He was 32, but looks younger. We were told a long time ago, that to use an adult pool you have to be over 30. Has this now changed?

Bogie Shooter 10-07-2009 01:08 PM

The pool guidelines spell out the age restrictions.
Sport pool 30 years residents only.
Family pool guests under 30 years.
Neighborhood Pool 30 years of age.
http://www.districtgov.org/images/RecGuide.pdf

tracy1j 10-07-2009 06:21 PM

Now I'm confused! So if you have a guest who is over 30 years of age, they can only go to the neighborhood pools? I thought they could go to the family pools, too.

katezbox 10-07-2009 06:35 PM

Tracy -

They can go to the family and the neighborhood pools. The "sports" pools are residents only.

tracy1j 10-07-2009 06:57 PM

Thanks : )

jdsl1998 10-07-2009 08:07 PM

explain
 
I did start this about an adult pool.
Yes, I mean floats, not noodles. Full body out of water floats.
I did read the rules today and it says 30 at adult pool. The person was much younger.
Just an uncomfortable issue and as I said a bit jealous.....

Ooper 10-07-2009 08:18 PM

There are roving monitors at pools that do not have permanent assigned monitors and if a roving monitor happened upon an adult pool with a person less than 30 years old, that person would have been asked to leave. Not trying to be smart, but if you see this happening frequently, and it bothers you that much, call the neighborhood watch. They will send somebody over to correct the situation.

Talk Host 10-07-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 228501)
, call the neighborhood watch. They will send somebody over to correct the situation.

Have you ever called on neighborhood watch to do anything like this? My experience with them is that they do nothing of the sort.

Army Guy 10-08-2009 07:53 AM

1998, why jealous? If under 30 that just doesn't mean they can't use and adult pool, it means they are too young to live and TV and enjoy the lifestyle we all LOVE!:beer3:

Army Guy

katezbox 10-08-2009 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdsl1998 (Post 228498)
I did start this about an adult pool.
Yes, I mean floats, not noodles. Full body out of water floats.
I did read the rules today and it says 30 at adult pool. The person was much younger.
Just an uncomfortable issue and as I said a bit jealous.....

1998,

Thank you for clarifying. I completely understand. I recall one poster here telling her new hubby that she would be uncomfortable going tot he pool and wearing a swimsuit. He persuaded her tog o, but to keep her cover up on if she was more comfortable. (I am doing this from my shaky memory, so my apologies if I mess it up a bit). But the bottom line was, at the pool she didn't feel uncomfortable at all. You shouldn't have to either. The rules are the rules.

Floats take up way too much space in the pool and teenagers belong at the family pool. TV is good enough to provide options; we should be good enough to follow the rules. And yes, that means when my daughter who is not quite 30 comes, we will have to go to the family pool.

k

otherbruddaDarrell 10-08-2009 08:32 AM

If you see something at the pools that needs corrected, contact the recreation dept. instead of community watch.
:icon_wink:

Ooper 10-08-2009 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 228503)
Have you ever called on neighborhood watch to do anything like this? My experience with them is that they do nothing of the sort.

I have seen Neighborhood Watch enter a pool area and check everybody in the pool for proper ID. I'm thinking, why would they do this if they weren't going to enforce or educate?

The Great Fumar 10-08-2009 10:12 PM

Their is a phone on the walls of all the pools and if you suspect a violation of a pool rule , just pick up the phone and call it in and a monitor will be there shortly.........

Fumar

SeaCruiser 10-10-2009 03:23 PM

Don't be a "pool bully"
 
Dear JDSL

Here is a link to The Villages website:

http://www.thevillages.com/Recreation/swimming.htm

As you can clearly see they feature let's say two 30 year olds visiting their parents and using a pool float! It is not against the rules for either in the neighborhood pools. I asked before we purchased!

There are people who golf daily. Some swim laps in the neighborhood pools (that takes up more room than a float!) Some use the rec centers daily. This is all included in our fees! Please keep in mind that all of us pay our amenity fees and respect the rights of others! I do! We all have the pleasures that make our retirement enjoyable. I like to float! :wave:

katezbox 10-10-2009 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaCruiser (Post 228849)
Dear JDSL

Here is a link to The Villages website:

http://www.thevillages.com/Recreation/swimming.htm

As you can clearly see they feature let's say two 30 year olds visiting their parents and using a pool float! It is not against the rules for either in the neighborhood pools. I asked before we purchased!

There are people who golf daily. Some swim laps in the neighborhood pools (that takes up more room than a float!) Some use the rec centers daily. This is all included in our fees! Please keep in mind that all of us pay our amenity fees and respect the rights of others! I do! We all have the pleasures that make our retirement enjoyable. I like to float! :wave:

Sea Cruiser,

When you click on this link it brings you to the TV website. No pictures of anyone floating. I then clicked recreation and in the guide there it clearly states that 30 and younger are not allowed in neighborhood pools and that the only items allowed in the pools are "Noodles, unbreakable masks, goggles,
and small plastic buckets...".

I agree we all pay our amenity fee - but that doesn't give us leeway to flout the rules.

SteveFromNY 10-10-2009 07:47 PM

Navigate to the Recreation page, then go to swimming. There is a picture there that clearly depicts parents and a son horsing around in the water.
Funny that the "guidelines" (they are marked as such and not called "rules") conflict with the advertisement!

http://www.thevillages.com/Recreation/swimming.htm

Start at the above link, thne click on Recreation, then on swimming to see.

SeaCruiser 10-10-2009 09:50 PM

Please read those rules Very carefully!!

There is a list of "Recreation Pool Guidelines" which are the same rules posted on the wall of neighborhood pools! Those do NOT exclude floatables for neighborhood pools!

Read further down and see the "family pool" where you will see the comment "• Noodles, unbreakable masks, goggles, and small plastic buckets are the only items allowed in the pool. This is for the safety of children and I respect that.

There are different guidelines for the different pools! Know the rules before you become one of those "pool bullies"

Russ_Boston 10-11-2009 05:36 AM

I think it is pretty simple:

Neighborhood pool - 30 yo or older
Sport pool - 30 yo or older AND resident AND lane restrictions at times due to activities that are posted.
family pools - any age

It says noodles are allowed. Don't see where floats are.

If anyone sees language that is different from above please cut and paste it in your reply since the pages you are linking to clearly don't. (and make sure it is current).

We were told 'no full size floats' in the pool and we abide by that when we visit. Before you know it you'd have full size 'fun islands floats' out there:)

SeaCruiser 10-11-2009 07:34 AM

For those having difficulty reading the pool rules online go to page 16 of the official 2009 Villages phone book and read the general rules !! Those apply to the neighborhood pools. Read further and it will list the rules for family pools. They are clearly different.

Russ, I lived here for over 3 years and use my float (like in the picture on The Villages official website) ) and never have had any of the pool monitors challenge me.. in fact several have said "wow, that looks relaxing".... why???? There are NO rules against it in the neighborhood pools! And when my 30 year old kids visit, they come to the pools with me with their guest passes.

My pool float has never bit anyone, messed up their yards or even bumped into anyone. I even move over for those doing laps!! It is what I enjoy and pay my amenity fees to use! If pools are very busy I go down the road to one that isn't! It's that simple! Please respect all of our rights!

under55 10-11-2009 09:36 AM

Sea
That is way I understand it also. No limitation on floats in the NP.

chelsea24 10-11-2009 11:43 AM

Floats???
 
I've never seen any floats at our neighborhood pool. Just noodles. I, personally wouldn't like the pool to be filled with full sized floats. They take up waayyy to much room. I honestly don't think they are allowed, nor should they be.

If someone has such a irresistible urge to "float" they should put in a private pool! :p

OMG! I just realized my daughter is old enough for the neighborhood pools!!! I'm going to go hide now...

ejp52 10-11-2009 12:13 PM

What's next no squirt guns at the pools?:jester:
I'll give up my squirt gun when they pry it from my water logged fingers.:D :1rotfl:

Russ_Boston 10-11-2009 02:35 PM

Could someone post the online link to the official Villages phone book listed by seacruiser? I'd like to read and understand the rules so I don't offend anyone.

Thanks!

katezbox 10-11-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaCruiser (Post 228906)
For those having difficulty reading the pool rules online go to page 16 of the official 2009 Villages phone book and read the general rules !! Those apply to the neighborhood pools. Read further and it will list the rules for family pools. They are clearly different.

Russ, I lived here for over 3 years and use my float (like in the picture on The Villages official website) ) and never have had any of the pool monitors challenge me.. in fact several have said "wow, that looks relaxing".... why???? There are NO rules against it in the neighborhood pools! And when my 30 year old kids visit, they come to the pools with me with their guest passes.

My pool float has never bit anyone, messed up their yards or even bumped into anyone. I even move over for those doing laps!! It is what I enjoy and pay my amenity fees to use! If pools are very busy I go down the road to one that isn't! It's that simple! Please respect all of our rights!


Sea,

Not trying to be a pool bully - but the rules (that aren't in the phone book) - don't specify only family pools. Looking in the phone book (as you said on page 16) it does list those restrictions under family pools. However, it says NOTHING about neighborhood pools and lists other sport pool restrictions.

I did follow the link this time (thanks, Steve) and it sure does show someone on a float!

I don't know if the signs at the pools say anything about floats. I'll check next time.

And again, no one is disputing your amenity fee - put paying one doesn't let us walk on to the golf courses (without following the rules) or playing pickleball (without following the rules). If the neighborhood says floats are OK - then I don't dispute your right to use one - if it doesn't; then I do.

dp000 10-11-2009 08:57 PM

pool rules
 
How can a "float" be defined? 2 noodles tied together x 2 = "float" That takes up the same amount of space as an inflatable float.

We are blessed with many beautiful pools. Chill out, relax, and "float"....or....don't.

golfnut 10-11-2009 09:11 PM

like sea said her float has never impeded any other persons use of the pool, if she thought it did I'm pretty sure she would get out of the pool until such time as it was safe to get back in, as long as we use common sense it won't be a problem...imho....gn

chelsea24 10-11-2009 11:04 PM

Confused?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golfnut (Post 229007)
like sea said her float has never impeded any other persons use of the pool, if she thought it did I'm pretty sure she would get out of the pool until such time as it was safe to get back in, as long as we use common sense it won't be a problem...imho....gn

Maybe there's a confusion between floats and rafts? Noodles are everywhere, they don't take up much room... but too many full sized floats (or rafts) would just be ridiculous! We were at the pool today and because it was so hot, it was crowed enough with all of us and our noodles.

Eddie! No one would dare take your "automatic" squirt gun away! EWE NUTCAKE! (He really does bring one folks... he's not kidding! Hahahaha!) :laugh: Actually I have to thank Eddie for giving me my first noodle. There will be no further comment!!!! LOL

katezbox 10-12-2009 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfnut (Post 229007)
like sea said her float has never impeded any other persons use of the pool, if she thought it did I'm pretty sure she would get out of the pool until such time as it was safe to get back in, as long as we use common sense it won't be a problem...imho....gn

GN,

But as you read other posts here, it seems some Villagers (and any of us could fall into the category at any time) seem to be lacking in Common Sense.

I almost got hit this morning by a truck where the driver was following too close - due to going too fast - while talking on a cell phone and reaching for some papers that were on the front seat - causing him to swerve into the oncoming lane. No common sense there... Puppy and I jumped out of the way...

Well-written rules are designed to "enforce" common sense. And while we all know it can't be done, it is a start.

I asked the original poster if her definition of a float was two noodles tied together - her reply was "Full body out of water floats". They take up more space than the noodle floats.

Again, I don't disagree with floats - I disagree with floats if they are against the rules. In a place as densely populated as TV, we would be miserable without rules/guidelines. Many of us - I am including myself - have rebutted SABRM for his frequent harping on the ARC "Nazis" and urgings to do what we damn well please with our homes.

Why is he wrong if Sea is right?

If someone goes to a neighborhood pool today, would you please read the rules and post if there is a restriction?

Stub3434 10-12-2009 10:18 AM

The following is from the Villages website:

Noodles, unbreakable masks, goggles,
and small plastic
buckets are the only items
allowed in the pool.

In response to persons indicating The Villages phone book as the arbiter in this case, I checked it out. There are general rules (hours, no pets, proper attire, smoking, food, etc.). Under Family Pools: no running, horseplay or throwing objects, protective rubber pants and bathroom breaks for small children, approved life vests permitted as are infant and toddler flotation devices. The statement from The Villages website as shown above also appears. There are also rules, suggestions, and available programs for the Sport Pools. NO information on the Neighborhood (Adult) pools. I assume that some people consider this an indication the ANYTHING GOES. As usual, there is a percentage of people that are going to do whatever they want regardless of rules, laws or public opinion. Since there is no rule on proper attire either, we could be experiencing some "skinny dippers" one of these days. Maybe I shouldn't have opened up that discussion :-)

Barefoot 10-12-2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stub3434 (Post 229055)

Since there is no rule on proper attire either, we could be experiencing some "skinny dippers" one of these days. Maybe I shouldn't have opened up that discussion :-)

We had a thread on TV a year ago on skinny dipping. A cool topic. There may be a whole horde of frisky seniors out there just waiting for the pools to close so they can take a skinny dip. Oh, what a visual. Let's hope it's after dark! :thumbup:

katezbox 10-19-2009 08:56 AM

Ok - so I read the Bonita Neighborhood Pool Guidelines on Saturday. There is NOTHING there that addresses floats. So, IMHO, the only items allowed in pools per the guidelines are "Noodles, unbreakable masks, goggles, and small plastic buckets...".

I think the picture on the website showing a raft is certainly misleading... Sea says she was told floats were OK - we were told only noodles. The guidelines appear to support the latter.

Not a pool bully,

Rule Follower Kate


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