CNN gets the humiliation it deserves...
 

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Mainstream Media Publicly Shamed by 20,000 Americans - YouTube

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Exactly what is so amazing, that hardcore Trump cultists would boo those who actually write/speak the truth...that exposes their demi-God for the scumbag that he is? :ohdear:

YouTube versus CNN...yep, that's compelling. It's sad that so many Americans are brainwashed by Fox, the registered entertainment only channel, and that obese drug addicted sex offender, Rush Limbaugh.

I voted for Mitch Daniels in November and have very little use for Trump but I do understand why he was elected. CNN and MSNBC are simply following the model Fox News used during Obama years. CNN and MSNBC both, almost 24/7, interview guests that criticize everything Trump says or does. My routine in morning is listen to local news around 6 and then channel surf the “news” shows and almost surely CNN and MSNBC is bashing Trump and Fox is singing his praises. Market share drives what is reported. If anyone believes this is for anything but advertising dollars they need to stand back a couple steps and see what our once vital “watchdog media” has become. Bring back AlJazeera.

It is very disturbing that the Fourth Estate charged with the responsibility to speak the truth for the benefit of our society (voice of the people) has deteriorated to being nothing more than a "dog whistle"to left's agenda of informational cascades that distort the complexities of reality.

The Fourth Estate manifestly neglects its duties in favor of a blood libel against the man who beat their chosen one. The manner in which they report may be fanciful but it is not factual. The manner in which they address the moral questions is proven to predict their inability to answer the empirical ones. This is so because they are so preoccupied with the jittery pokery of "Trumpisms " that they neglect to inform citizens of the real threats both foreign and domestic.

Such irresponsibility to duty is now having "unintended consequences".

Personal Best Regards:

If you were honest with yourself you would admit this country has never been in so much chaos, both foreign and domestic, in many years. What event has caused such significant international threats? The election of Trump. Globally, governments do not trust Trump and many openly scorn him. North Korea feels empowered to issue more and more threats, Iran laughs in our face, England, France, and Germany refuse to be coupled with our foreign policy. Outrage and pushback from Trump's war with the First Amendment, as well as acknowledgement of his constant lying, undermine this country. That's to say nothing about his personal moral behavior (Trump University, stealing from a kid's cancer charity, shutdown of his foundation due to fraud, and many other shady business practices).
Reporter Got Pentagon Emails Depicting Plans To Spin Puerto Rico As Positive Despite The Truth

Trump Unpopular Worldwide, American Image Suffers | Pew Research Center

You seem to always ignore this oft asked question.

PLEASE supply ONE instance of any mainstream media lying when reporting news. Not commentary.

PLEASE, as you accuse, NEVER providing any facts an instance of lying in reporting news.

What you do is the same as me calling Trump a liar, but not providing any substance, which I Always supply backup for.

So please stop accusing people of lying when you cannot supply any susbstantiatiin.

I also challenge you to refute charges of your hero President lying.

You continually harp, call names and then run away. I read your links on feminism, which seems to preoccupy you, but be a man and practice what you preach.

You constantly accuse me, personally, if running from issues.

THIS is an issue. Stand up and be counted. Give us an instance of mainstream lying in reporting news, and stand up and defend the presidential lying.

Why do you, a man opposed to feminism shy away, and simply yell and accuse. The men I know would never call someone, yet alone a generalized entire industry, liars and then run away. Not manly at all.

Then we can discuss your other baseless accusations about warning our country of threats, both foreign and domestic.

Who acts like you ?In the last months, you have accused almost every faction of society of so many things.. you make baseless charges with never one iota of any substantiation.

The entire international press is worse toward Trump than our domestic press. So how do you explain that as a "libel against (the left's) chosen one"? This is direct from Der Spiegel: Donald Trump is not fit to be president of the United States. He does not possess the requisite intellect and does not understand the significance of the office he holds nor the tasks associated with it. He doesn't read. He doesn't bother to peruse important files and intelligence reports and knows little about the issues that he has identified as his priorities. His decisions are capricious and they are delivered in the form of tyrannical decrees.


He is a man free of morals. As has been demonstrated hundreds of times, he is a liar, a racist and a cheat. I feel ashamed to use these words, as sharp and loud as they are. But if they apply to anyone, they apply to Trump. And one of the media's tasks is to continue telling things as they are: Trump has to be removed from the White House. Quickly. He is a danger to the world.

Donald Trump Is a Menace to the World: Opinion - SPIEGEL ONLINE

RUBICON does not care. He makes baseless and incredible accusations against anyone who questions Trump.

He continually accuses me and others of avoiding issues, when I, and others present facts he ignores, ask questions he refuses to address.

Not sure what word to use for a person so self involved, so pompous that he feels above the world, and can simply stand in judgement of millions.

You are correct. The international press is even harder and mor critical if Trump, and now our country is looked at as having a dysfunctional President who is making a mockery of what used to be respected institutions.

Yet, we have Rubicon who I call again to stand up and stop attacking your fellow Americans and back up your nasty accusations.

THIS is why women are too emotional to be rational...

Ha...really? EVERYTHING broadcast is COMPLETELY factual? Come on Rocky...be real.

You admit there's a "a budget train wreck"...and yet you want ALL THIS:

"education, healthcare and our infrastructure"

Do you think those things are FREE? Just because the ATM always spits out money when you put your card in...doesn't mean that money is free. A MAN put that money there for you...a father, husband, or the government.

We already borrow over $1 trillion a year...to get everything YOU want...we'd have to borrow $3 trillion...maybe more.

Things need to balance...government isn't a "daddy" with unlimited funds. Lets talk about reducing the population by half and making ALL minorities go away. THAT would make America great again. A white 90% majority and white men running things again. America...western civilization...peaked under those conditions.

Do not misrepresent.

I want to know why people attack the media for lying when they don't, and do it without ever supplying any evidnce. Mainstream, not the whacky sites.

I want to know why people accept Trumps lies and never ever defend his lying ?

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Because the MAINSTREAM places are lying to you and SOMETIMES the "wacky sites" are telling the truth.

EVERYTHING...I'll write that again...EVERYTHING the media says about the military IS suspect...propaganda is part of military operations.

I'm tiring of you Rocky...you're like a 7 y/o little boy who keeps asking...why daddy...why daddy. I'm not in the mood to teach you tonight.

Notice I didn't say little girl asking why? Little girls are too busy talking...about the other kids. Women...always worried about what OTHERS are doing.

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Not why....
Just asking you to back up your stupid words.

I will take one example of the MSM lying about the news. Or shut up

To all those who countered to my post let me say that my post was generic and politically neutral. never once did I even speak about Trump let alone defend him

My comments criticized the Fourth Estate's of absolving their responsibility to report news event factually, objectively and without bias. In that again I did not exclude any such organization.

The fundamental issue is of great importance because none of us are getting the truth. the advent of technology ( ie google, face book i phone internet) makes it possible to report fake news and to suppress one's point of view.

Yet here we are with posters missing the big picture. this thread is not about Trump or Rubicon. it is about the deterioration of our news media which we all rely on to know truly what is happening in our nation. Instead they have become propaganda mills of self interest and tabloid nonsense.

Personal Best Regards:

What do you expect in a Femo-Fascist regime?

AGAIN....you make accusations and I asked you to provide an instance of the MSM lying in reporting about Trump, and once again, you dodge the question.

NO, the thread is about RUBICON and Trump....you and Trump make accusations toward a group of people BUT NEVER EVER SUPPLY ANY BACK UP........NEVER EVER

As we see with Trump, it is so easy just to accuse people but never be able to back it up.

You are like two peas in a pod.......both lie....both condemn others with labels.....and both never are able to back up what they say

YOu are correct with your hints at how fake news is spread and maybe if you read anything but your whacko websites, you will see that everybody knows that and the vast amount of fake news spread on those sites was from those who support Trump

Here you go "drama fag":
Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies | Daily Wire

By the way; you lie too...

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First, I suggest you read about the fellow who IS The Daily Wire.

Mr Shapiro is a known white supremicist. He has also authored many satire stories.

But even with that, I gave it a look. Read it....it makes no sense. He simply doesn't like what people say, but offers no lies at all.

Plus, you folks say the media lies in the news,....that you cannot ever prove...they do not. Commentary is not news.

Your source..one conspiracy after another
Ben Shapiro - Wikipedia

OK...he's smart...he "knows the score"...he knows white people ARE superior to negros. WHY do you make that a crime?

Are you superior to a 3 y/o? Meaning can you do more than a 3 y/o? Do you know more than a 3 y/o? Should a 3 y/o get preference because you are superior?

There is a thread on the forum concerning Nietzsche, and it calls to mind and has relativity to this thread.

"Nietzsche fancied himself a prophet of things to come – and not long after Donald Trump won the presidency, the Oxford Dictionaries declared the international word of the year 2016 to be “post-truth”.

Indeed, one of the characteristics of Trump’s campaign was its scorn for facts and the truth. Trump himself unabashedly made any claim that seemed fit for his purpose of being elected: that crime levels are sky-high, that climate change is a Chinese hoax, that he’d never called it a Chinese hoax, and so on. But the exposure of his constant contradictions and untruths didn’t stop him. He won.

Nietzsche offers us a way of understanding how this happened. As he saw it, once we realise that the idea of an absolute, objective truth is a philosophical hoax, the only alternative is a position called “perspectivism” – the idea there is no one objective way the world is, only perspectives on what the world is like.

This might seem outlandish. After all, surely we all agree certain things are objectively true: Trump’s predecessor as president is Barack Obama, the capital of France is Paris, and so on. But according to perspectivism, we agree on those things not because these propositions are “objectively true”, but by virtue of sharing the same perspective."

This is from the link supplied in that thread....

The post-truth era of Trump is just what Nietzsche predicted

Interesting it speaks to perspectives.

Also this morning a poster used a link to a known white supremicist and extreme right wing blogger.

When we read ONLY that kind of tripe, and it is tripe, our perspectives become so mixed up and confused, we lose touch with reality.

If you read only PRO Trump or hard right extreme websites, you WILL lose all touch with reality. Same thing applies to those on the left who only will listen to the extreme.

Trump is setting up new reality NOT based on truth. Part of that is to condemn the MSM because they report facts in news, and are not trying to change your perspective but to inform.

If you lose the need to get informed, and only want to feed the perspective you want, this is what you get.

The media does not lie..they present facts in the news, and if you find it not acceptable, then react to the facts, not some jerk off making money by selling extreme ideas on a website.

Read the news and see how that was used AGAINST US during the election in what was NOT a hoax, but an invasion by a foreign country.

You don't like daily wire because no white supremacist can tell the truth... you don't like Breitbart because they don't say what you like to hear... You don't like Fox News because they don't say what you like to hear...

I guess it's just MSM and NBC News for you, they are the only ones that say it the way you want to hear it... and that makes it the truth.

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The 1960s began the era of "post-truth". Equality is ALL lies.

Crime levels ARE sky high...in "diverse" places...places that have high percentages of minorities. Places like S and W Chicago, Baltimore, E St Louis.

Well duh...WE each see the world through our own eyes. And we perceive based on our past experiences. EVERYTHING is relative. But there ARE "truths". Blacks DO destroy everything they touch.

There you go...being all biased. Maybe it's NOT tripe...maybe it IS the truth. Mainstream media is a propaganda machine...just like in Germany in the 1930s.

The media DOES lie...often.

ALL part of divide and conquer.

You have completely lost touch with reality.

Take a time out....for a long long time.

Why would I read a website or source that lies and tells mistruths or half truths ?

Does that not defy any reason ?

I am not a white supremicist or hate monger so why would I listen or read some sickos sharing who they hate.

This country needs to stop with the hate, accusations, etc and start to listen and talk.

I realize that is outside your reality

Your assumption about my reading or watching is coming from your false sense of reality.

I watch Fox....I watch all the network and cable news as well. I also read and I insure I read BOTH sides if there are two sides.

Fox simply OMITS things that are part of the story or as in the last week, headline the Hollywood crap. I prefer not to hear all of that stuff.

I make sure I read both sides of the political spectrum. I find that the FACTS on MSM are the same, even thought people on here are screaming about lying...the only lies are those on video or direct quotes from our President.

My objection to Fox is they simply do not report anything everything, and do not even do much NEWS. Fox has become a lot of commentary with a lot of gals with short skirts talking as if they know something.

i think Shep Smith does a good job, but you folks call him a fag, etc because he DOES report the news

Actually...I'm quite grounded.

Because you don't KNOW what IS true and what isn't. Do you believe the races are equal? Then you DON'T know the truth. You won't find that on the mainstream propaganda outlets.

It's quite reasonable to want to know EVERY side of a situation.

Because maybe you SHOULD hate too? We're being overrun...bred out...it's time WE stand up for OUR rights and OUR race.

Sure...lets talk...but we MUST speak the truth. NAME one thing besides the NBA and NFL where blacks are actually equal.

There are MORE than 2 sides...2 sides is what the propaganda machine WANTS you to believe. Divide and conquer.

Again...2 sides, 2 parties...divide and conquer.

Because that's the party line...what they WANT you to "know"...which is many times a lie. Take race...you'll NEVER get the truth on MSM.

How about here? Fat ladies in mumu's talking as if they know something. How many..show of hands...have been to MLK Blvd yet as I've asked so you can see for yourself that I'm being truthful...they are NOT like us...how many?

Because he IS gay.

Still trying to digest all the info in this thread, but this stands out to me. Could you provide proof of this statement? I have seen where he was accused of being a white supremacist, but never saw any evidence of that.

Actually leaving right now but will address this when I return.

I do know that he does not like your hero, Trump for many of the same reasons I do not....."But his overriding focus this campaign season has been on Trump, whom he views as not only a fake Republican, but a legitimately dangerous figure."

Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart

He spends too much time discussing race, ethnicity, etc for me. He and others from Briebart make this a career, discussing others religions and color

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Will be interested in hearing more as this piece does not seem to back your statement. It seems HE is the one who is being attacked. Anyway, I've listened to him in the past and have not gotten the same feel as you have. I don't remember him focusing on race, etc, in his lectures.

I know he did not like Trump. Believe it or not, one does not have to be a Trump supporter for me to think they are worthy of an ear. In fact, it looks as if he and I may have voted for the same candidate in the primaries. Unlike you, and probably him, I couldn't vote for a candidate in the general election who had no chance of winning and thereby possibly throw the election to Hillary. I'm not saying that in judgment, just that personally I couldn't have done it.

I think this is a good post.

What a lot of people don't understand is that a lot of Trump voters were voting against both the Democrat and Republican parties. The continued bunch of extremism from both sides. The forced politically correct things we were expected to say. We got a lot of unexpected stuff, but none of it is as bad as Hillary would have been, in my opinion.

Well you know how I feel about Hillary Clinton Gracie...and for those of you who called me various names, just search the user name BUCCO and you will find my feelings.

I do understand much of the voting and why...that is easy.

What I do not understand is the allowance given to the White House to destroy the institution of the Presdency and to destroy our reputation in foreign lands. By reputation, many feel that is a macho thing.....gee....we are so strong, etc, but I am speaking of honesty and integrity. NOBODY in the world trusts us any more because of what exudes from the Presidency.

I do understand the vote, but supporting this total and complete denigration of america is well beyond me. To actually support the condemnation of our first ammendment....to actually support the false accusations...to actually support the hate that comes from our White House is just not acceptable, but you still support it.

It cant be because he is accomplishing anything....not one piece of legislation...he certainly does not stand for anything at all. He is more of a liberal than a Republican in all ways.

Yet, he has your support and all of this support seems to be predicated on his hate of certain groups, all social.

You can say what you want, and I will support on the election but your are responsible for your support from here. To hear him parade young boys in hate chants or love chants on him....to hear him totally destroy war hero's with his words.....to hear what he says about anyone who might disagree with him....to hear you support his lack of even a small amount of respect for what made this country great is simply demoralizing.

You may think it is great and macho what he says....I think it is disgraceful and mean spirited, and violates all that great men have fought for and died for over the years. His brand of false and phony patriotism does nothing for me.......he is about himself and his family.

There is so much evidence, factual despite his personal attacks on reporters or the media, YET you still support him...are silent in his terrible performance as a leader.

While watching the NFL today, I will do some reading on my iPad.

Perhaps all I ever saw was remarks on race, religion, etc. I am interested in our nation..ALL OF US, and thus have a tendency to ignore comments that are aimed at slotting Americans into cage with a label.

Plus, I do not ever visit any of the sites he is associated with, but promise to do some reading.

I responded to Gracie right away because I hate to be talked down to. When you start out by saying...what a lot of people don't understand, flags go up. If you don't understand, why would you even be on a political forum ?

I get it...I undersatand and to try and insure your superiority of knowledge when I know more than the person putting me in my place...it is offensive to me.

Glad you are not judging my vote...most on here seem to just mock it.

Neither candidate in my opinion deserved even consideration, and shame on the parties and the primary system. BUT, as I said to Gracie....the reason does not allow any American to support a person who is doing to our country what he is doing.

To hope a 70 year old man who has lived a disgraceful, immoral, racially motivated, egoititical life to change is just not a Bit reasonable to me. It just defies logic, and one year in, almost, he makes my point. Monetary success does not make a man. Weinstein was successful, just like Trump, and they both behaved like pigs in their personal life. Would you vote for Weinstein ?

First, that did not take long.

I actually agree with this man on most. Perhaps all the quotes I have read, and from my small taste, might be correct, had to do with religion, or race.

I read a number of articles on him, both pro and con.

Let me give you his statement, that on the surface I agree with totally.....

"I will never vote for Donald Trump because I stand with certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. Donald Trump stands against all of these things. He stands for Planned Parenthood and trade restrictions and targeting of political enemies and an anti-morality foreign policy and government domination of religion and nastiness toward women and tacit appeals to racism and unbounded personal power. I stand with the Constitution of theUnited States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances. Donald Trump does not. I stand with conservatism. Donald Trump stands against it.
I stand with #NeverTrump."

Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart

This I agree with. Those who think they furthered conservatism or morals by supporting this person are so very very wrong.

This following comment was just a note in anothr article, but so very correct. It is also something I have tried to say many times, but on here the Trump folks look at everything as you are either with or against....they believe they are supporting conservatism, but that is bunk. They are supporting the extreme..very extreme alt right...

"Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism."



The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP - The Washington Post

And lastly, a link to a piece criticizing him which you may want to read.

The Hollow Bravery of Ben Shapiro - The New York Times

Thanks for being stubborn because I will pay more attention to him, although because of my reading, I re read the initial link on the media and thought it was contrived, not a realistic depiction of NEWS inaccuracy, and in some cases, in my opinion a false result was shown.

But, he and I share many viewpoints and those on here who think Trump is a conservative hero might oay attention.

He is a alt right extremist. I believe that can be fatal to this country. You, in my opinion, have false hopes for this President, and become part of the problem by supporting him. The bigotry, and apparent need to further our divides, along with what can only be called a total lack of morals and character is beyond troubling. He lied his way in, and is lying still.

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You make some good points and I will take a look at those links when I get a chance......getting ready to go out here shortly myself. Just one quick question I have for you in the meantime. What is it you think that those of us who appear to continue to support Trump, should do at this point? I ask this, not facetiously or sarcastically, but honestly. My viewpoint is that he is our President, and like him or not, I would want this country to succeed not fail. Let me further explain that since my background comes from one that is more faith based than some, I always believe that God is in the details and I know He can use people for good whether they are His people or not. In saying that, maybe you will understand why my viewpoint is one of more optimism than another person's. I can't control whether he is the President or not at this point and I don't think spending my time tearing him down is going to help or change anything, nor is it good for my well-being. Your thoughts?

Hey, it's Sunday.......I had to throw my "sermon" in there.

Great question.

I do not know. I DO know that the acceptance of all his incredible misbehavior and the dismissal of the media as liars and the fact that people who are now becoming accustomed to such terrible, gross behavior by our President should GREATLY concern all Americans.

We have a poster, Rubicon who has diagnosed me and others with a syndrome. I am attacked as some sort of closet Clinton supporter. And wish that was the only attack, but the acceptance that comes so easy to you and others will just stay with you, and I think it is called gradualism.

I simply want people to make decisions based on truth, not lies. I want to disagree with our President, no matter his policies, on substance if policies. I want to stop attacking our hard working government folks because they do not like him, or more importantly do not trust him.

We are allowing by submitting a very new low standard be set.

No, nobody on here will change the world, but this "sickness" is spreading, helped of course by our President who actually thinks investigating a factual intrusion is a hoax. Read the reactions Trump supporters have, or the racial component visible always with him. If nobody cares..if nobody objects it simply gets worse.

Abby, I am not preaching. ThevTrump supporters on this forum fit the general rule, and don't attack..there are real exceptions but for the most part treat this like a Jim Jones type thing. Even though he lies to them, they find it acceptable. So many voted for him out of hate (for Clinton or Obama) but continue support. He thrives on that "love" hence all his rallies.

I can only express my valid and real fear of where this is heading...we do not shout out when he is racist. We don't shout out when he lies to us.

I am just scared. I believe in my heart that our institutions are under attack by the extremes. We, on this forum, will attack the NFL because he said to do it. He never mention the NFL charities, nor his long battle against the NFL because of his personal feud dating back to their burying him when he tried to move in their market.

I am saddened how he is twisting the very definition of patriotism and how he is giving life to the hate groups.

I suppose it is just difficult for me not to react to such a terrible threat to our country.

By the way, it is not good for your well being. To be subjected to actual sermons based on NOTHING is tough. So many posters represent all his bad traits as well. I have seen so much open racism, but more scary is the hidden, subtle racism by posters I "know" from years back. Such hypocrites they are.

I do know since you asked personally, that continually supporting him on here or anywhere will simply "lock you in". When you tell me the media is lying about him, you are simply diluting yourself, and you will continue to accept more lies

Aren't these rather trivial details compared to the elephant-in-the-room big-picture issues, like:



The Magic Sentences of Liberty

Liberty is a poetic term for property rights.

Therefore there are only two kind of laws:

Type 1) those that protect property rights

Type 2) and those that attack property rights <--- where Femo-Fascism lives

"Have the government do unto others and their property as you'd have the government do unto you, and your property."

We can eliminate 90% of the crap we call politics with first principles of liberty.