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tcxr750 10-16-2017 08:30 AM

200000 die from opioid deaths
 
Congress voted to weaken laws to enforce rules that curb the epidemic. Tom Marino is the POTUS choice for new drug enforcement czar. The same guy who was instrumental in weakening the laws. If you have a friend or family member that dies from opioid overdose send your thanks Congress.
My neighbor is a policeman in a neighboring small suburb. Recently the mayor presented awards to six policemen who saved lives from opioid overdose that year. The demographic of that suburb is white middle class.

Taltarzac725 10-16-2017 08:33 AM

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Congress voted to weaken laws to enforce rules that curb the epidemic. Tom Marino is the POTUS choice for new drug enforcement czar. The same guy who was instrumental in weakening the laws. If you have a friend or family member that dies from opioid overdose send your thanks Congress.
My neighbor is a policeman in a neighboring small suburb. Recently the mayor presented awards to six policemen who saved lives from opioid overdose that year. The demographic of that suburb is white middle class.

That was a very eye-opening 60 Minutes report on this matter last night.

What a clown Donald John Trump is to nominate Tom Marino as drug czar.

Jack9696 10-16-2017 08:33 AM

A link would be appreciated if possible.

Thank you

Taltarzac725 10-16-2017 08:38 AM

Rep. Tom Marino: Drug czar nominee and the opioid industry’s advocate in Congress - The Washington Post

Google Tom Marino.

Taltarzac725 10-16-2017 08:40 AM

60 Minutes.
 
Meet 60 Minutes' DEA whistleblower - CBS News

Here is a link to the 60 Minutes segment.

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BILL WHITAKER: Congressman Marino has been nominated to be the next drug czar. What was your reaction when you heard that?

JOE RANNAZZISI: Total disbelief. Total disbelief. He's just not qualified to do that job. Besides the fact that he pushed through a bill that's curtailing the ability of DEA to do their job, I don't understand how you could look at a congressman who's done all of this and then decide he would be a great drug czar-- to basically set policy for the United States; drug policy for the United States.

BILL WHITAKER: We will soon have a hearing with Congressman Marino. I would think that this would be an issue that will be brought up in his hearings.

JOE RANNAZZISI: The bill was bad. Him being the drug czar is a lot worse.

Topspinmo 10-16-2017 08:59 AM

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Congress voted to weaken laws to enforce rules that curb the epidemic. Tom Marino is the POTUS choice for new drug enforcement czar. The same guy who was instrumental in weakening the laws. If you have a friend or family member that dies from opioid overdose send your thanks Congress.
My neighbor is a policeman in a neighboring small suburb. Recently the mayor presented awards to six policemen who saved lives from opioid overdose that year. The demographic of that suburb is white middle class.

So congress is responsible for some drug addicit, it never about personal responsibility is it. So, I eat too much and get fat and it's the government fault, I drink too much and get liver cancer it's the government fault, I chain smoke and get lung cancer and it's the government fault. I walk in front of train and it's the government fault cause the government didn't fence in the tracks or pass law don't walk in front of on coming train. Laws are there for punishment after you break them. But, still have to have brain and will.

billethkid 10-16-2017 09:04 AM

It would be interesting to know the make up of the numbers of "opioid" users into various categories.

For example what percent are hard drug users care less about the source of their fix and are they using Rx drugs due to accessibility/cost??

This is not to suggest there is not a problem. No matter the answer to the above there is an opiod abuse issue in America today.

Taltarzac725 10-16-2017 09:06 AM

Opioid Overdose | Drug Overdose | CDC Injury Center

There are people who get hooked on prescription pills for a variety of reasons often upon which they have little control.

Topspinmo 10-16-2017 09:12 AM

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Opioid Overdose | Drug Overdose | CDC Injury Center

There are people who get hooked on prescription pills for a variety of reasons often upon which they have little control.

So someone poking the down they're throats. If someone get's hooked on prescription drugs it's the doctor fault or the individual NOT following directions. How is law going to stop that?

Taltarzac725 10-16-2017 09:21 AM

A year after Prince's death, these questions remain unanswered

It would be interesting to look at some of the details of these opioid overdose deaths.

Opioid Overdose Deaths Are Even Higher Than You Think | Time.com

billethkid 10-16-2017 09:24 AM

There is obviously a huge hole/loop hole in the supply authorization/approval routine, to allow the volumes of pills being prescribed/dosed/knocked off.

It has to be caught up in the political/special interest spectrum to be allowing the continuation in the volume that is the current epidemic.

graciegirl 10-16-2017 09:30 AM

TAL, the point that was made was this legislation that weakened the DEA's enforcement was passed in 2015.

It now does not allow the DEA to research into drug users "private matters". It takes the teeth out of a lot of arrests of drug users and attempts to make us all think of it ALWAYS as an illness rather than the choice it often is. to It was not passed under this administration. Another legacy of the past one.

Yes it is addiction, but choices were made at some point and it is illegal as hell to do drugs. It is illegal to buy them...now we have to legally play "poor addict".

ColdNoMore 10-16-2017 09:49 AM

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TAL, the point that was made was this legislation that weakened the DEA's enforcement was passed in 2015.

It now does not allow the DEA to research into drug users "private matters". It takes the teeth out of a lot of arrests of drug users and attempts to make us all think of it ALWAYS as an illness rather than the choice it often is. to It was not passed under this administration. Another legacy of the past one.

Yes it is addiction, but choices were made at some point and it is illegal as hell to do drugs. It is illegal to buy them...now we have to legally play "poor addict".

You are the perfect example, of why watching Faux News...is such a threat to the truth.

Who do you think controlled the Senate and the House (you know, the people who actually pass laws)...in 2015? :oops:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

graciegirl 10-16-2017 10:09 AM

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You are the perfect example, of why watching Faux News...is such a threat to the truth.

Who do you think controlled the Senate and the House (you know, the people who actually pass laws)...in 2015? :oops:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

You are the perfect example of someone without manners, without filters, without any kind of respect for woman. I don't know anyone who blurts like you do, but that is beside the point. YOU are really getting to me.

However, what you say is correct. I stand corrected.

I am so glad I don't have to live close to you or know anyone personally like you. YOU are not a gentleman in any way shape or form. Now I am going to put you on ignore. Your incoming fit will not be seen by me. Don't forget the fat old twit and the passive aggressive. YOU are one nasty guy. I feel so sad for MRS. Cold.

Don Baldwin 10-16-2017 10:43 AM

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So congress is responsible for some drug addicit, it never about personal responsibility is it. So, I eat too much and get fat and it's the government fault, I drink too much and get liver cancer it's the government fault, I chain smoke and get lung cancer and it's the government fault. I walk in front of train and it's the government fault cause the government didn't fence in the tracks or pass law don't walk in front of on coming train. Laws are there for punishment after you break them. But, still have to have brain and will.

You forgot women...they can spread their legs all they want...if they get pregnant...WE pay for everything.

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You are the perfect example, of why watching Faux News...is such a threat to the truth.

Who do you think controlled the Senate and the House (you know, the people who actually pass laws)...in 2015? :oops:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

VERY wealthy and powerful white guys...the same who have ALWAYS "controlled" Congress. They buy "influence".

ColdNoMore 10-16-2017 11:01 AM

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You are the perfect example of someone without manners, without filters, without any kind of respect for woman. I don't know anyone who blurts like you do, but that is beside the point. YOU are really getting to me.

However, what you say is correct. I stand corrected.

I am so glad I don't have to live close to you or know anyone personally like you. YOU are not a gentleman in any way shape or form. Now I am going to put you on ignore. Your incoming fit will not be seen by me. Don't forget the fat old twit and the passive aggressive. YOU are one nasty guy. I feel so sad for MRS. Cold.

LOL :1rotfl:


The fact that I consistently stand up for women, against the innumerable women haters/misogynists around here, means that your attempt to disguise my contempt for YOU behind the false accusation of being a female hater...is simply another one of your exposed lying, passive-aggressive tricks.

So sorry, but it is probably best that you put me on ignore because I strike bone so often on your falseness...it could be hazardous to your baseless sense of superiority.

Remember, it's YOUR false sense of superiority...and has nothing to do with other women.

And while I'm exposing your actual inferiority, I'll also let slide any denigrating comments toward your family or relatives...because I refuse to lower myself to your level. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:






Peekaboo...I know you lied about having me on ignore and just had to peek at my response. :1rotfl:

Nucky 10-16-2017 11:25 AM

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You are the perfect example of someone without manners, without filters, without any kind of respect for woman. I don't know anyone who blurts like you do, but that is beside the point. YOU are really getting to me.

However, what you say is correct. I stand corrected.

I am so glad I don't have to live close to you or know anyone personally like you. YOU are not a gentleman in any way shape or form. Now I am going to put you on ignore. Your incoming fit will not be seen by me. Don't forget the fat old twit and the passive aggressive. YOU are one nasty guy. I feel so sad for MRS. Cold.

Truer words could not have been written. Just a garbage person. He is not worth the sweat on a grape. I'd put you on ignore, implode, but I don't know how. Ok I'm gone again. Take Care Sweet Cheeks, keep sticking up for people and doing all the good that you publish.

Chi-Town 10-16-2017 03:47 PM

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You are the perfect example of someone without manners, without filters, without any kind of respect for woman. I don't know anyone who blurts like you do, but that is beside the point. YOU are really getting to me.

However, what you say is correct. I stand corrected.

I am so glad I don't have to live close to you or know anyone personally like you. YOU are not a gentleman in any way shape or form. Now I am going to put you on ignore. Your incoming fit will not be seen by me. Don't forget the fat old twit and the passive aggressive. YOU are one nasty guy. I feel so sad for MRS. Cold.

GG, I think you are wrong about the woman thing and CNM. Donny B should be on your ignore list for sure.


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ColdNoMore 10-16-2017 03:50 PM

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GG, I think you are wrong about the woman thing and CNM. Donny B should be on your ignore list for sure.

While Baldwin is an equal opportunity hater toward anything that isn't a white male, old Bog99 might actually exceed him... in hatred toward females.

ColdNoMore 10-16-2017 03:54 PM

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Truer words could not have been written. Just a garbage person. He is not worth the sweat on a grape. I'd put you on ignore, implode, but I don't know how. Ok I'm gone again. Take Care Sweet Cheeks, keep sticking up for people and doing all the good that you publish.

:1rotfl:

Why do I get this mental image of you crying, while someone is rubbing their knuckles on your head...every time you post? :D

As far as not being able to figure out the very simple procedure on how to put someone on ignore, well...that kinda speaks for itself. :oops:




Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

dirtbanker 10-16-2017 04:32 PM

Another fine example of why she is known as the (unt...cant get along with other woman!

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Wiotte 10-16-2017 07:19 PM

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You are the perfect example of someone without manners, without filters, without any kind of respect for woman. I don't know anyone who blurts like you do, but that is beside the point. YOU are really getting to me.



However, what you say is correct. I stand corrected.



I am so glad I don't have to live close to you or know anyone personally like you. YOU are not a gentleman in any way shape or form. Now I am going to put you on ignore. Your incoming fit will not be seen by me. Don't forget the fat old twit and the passive aggressive. YOU are one nasty guy. I feel so sad for MRS. Cold.


Can’t you tell you’re dealing with a woman ? Or, are you just blind that only a man can be as cruel as you are.


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Nucky 10-16-2017 08:01 PM

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:1rotfl:

Why do I get this mental image of you crying, while someone is rubbing their knuckles on your head...every time you post? :D

As far as not being able to figure out the very simple procedure on how to put someone on ignore, well...that kinda speaks for itself. :oops:






Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Last time I took a real look over here somebody was trying to get you to gold for a Benjamin a hole and you shriveled up and flittered away, seem to remember something wrong with your pants also, so after a few months I see you are making fun of someone's mother, sister, friend, someone's WIFE. Having visions of knuckle on another man's head Harvey? Are you thinking of the one on the shoulders.

So all the work you put in since I stopped looking over here has improved the world how exactly? O.I.C. :ohdear: Keep up the good work. Oh by the way how is the Russian thing coming along?

Chi-Town 10-16-2017 08:21 PM

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Last time I took a real look over here somebody was trying to get you to gold for a Benjamin a hole and you shriveled up and flittered away, seem to remember something wrong with your pants also, so after a few months I see you are making fun of someone's mother, sister, friend, someone's WIFE. Having visions of knuckle on another man's head Harvey? Are you thinking of the one on the shoulders.

So all the work you put in since I stopped looking over here has improved the world how exactly? O.I.C. :ohdear: Keep up the good work. Oh by the way how is the Russian thing coming along?

Where is Google translator?

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ColdNoMore 10-16-2017 08:37 PM

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Can’t you tell you’re dealing with a woman ? Or, are you just blind that only a man can be as cruel as you are.

:1rotfl:


Shouldn't you be off bonding with your racist brother Baldwin...RickeyD? ;)



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Wiotte 10-16-2017 08:47 PM

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:1rotfl:





Shouldn't you be off bonding with your racist brother Baldwin...RickeyD? ;)







Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:



I see you and gg as different sides of the same coin. Both cvnt bitches with an ax to grind. I like Don, no issues. He’s not out to hurt anyone.


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ColdNoMore 10-16-2017 09:09 PM

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I see you and gg as different sides of the same coin. Both cvnt bitches with an ax to grind. I like Don, no issues. He’s not out to hurt anyone.

Of course you like Baldwin, Rickey...you're both flaming, scumbag racists.

Proven by your recent post that you considered yourself a good parent, because none of your kids married a "N" or a Jew. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Wiotte 10-16-2017 09:11 PM

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Of course you like Baldwin, Rickey...you're both flaming, scumbag racists.



Proven by your recent post that you considered yourself a good parent, because none of your kids married a "N" or a Jew. :ohdear:







Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:



Gee, I thought you were smarter than that.


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Don Baldwin 10-16-2017 09:25 PM

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Of course you like Baldwin, Rickey...you're both flaming, scumbag racists.

Proven by your recent post that you considered yourself a good parent, because none of your kids married a "N" or a Jew. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Too bad we won't be around in 30 years so you can see I've been right all along. America has gone from 90% white (it's heyday, #1 in the world) to present day 49% white and currently #25 in the world. We WILL be in 30 years 20% white. WHAT do you think an 80% minority America is going to look like? What's it's going to be like living here? Show me ANYWHERE in America that is 80% minorities and a NICE, CLEAN, SAFE place to live...just ONE. America is done, kaput, it will cease to exist. As the sh!tty slums expand into everywhere. They ALREADY force the minorities into the better areas with mandatory section 8 , "affordable" apartments.

Wiotte 10-16-2017 09:25 PM

Here’s another...lol

[QUOTE who="MSSara"]<quoted text>I have met Gracie twice. She is a gossip that loves to stir up **** among others posing as a friend. I know a few that have been the target of her attacks that will not even read TOTV anymore. She has insulted both men an women on that site for years. I have heard opinions, but don't really understand why TOTV tolerates the nasty bitch. She wonders into the Villages news . Com site occasionally but is called out and run off every time. The Villages news.com dooes not protect her hatefulness like TOTV does, so she is not tolerated by the frequent posters there. In closing, from someone that knows her personally, I don't believe she is dumb, but can verify she is EVIL.[/QUOTE]



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Wiotte 10-16-2017 09:28 PM

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Too bad we won't be around in 30 years so you can see I've been right all along. America has gone from 90% white (it's heyday, #1 in the world) to present day 49% white and currently #25 in the world. We WILL be in 30 years 20% white. WHAT do you think an 80% minority America is going to look like? What's it's going to be like living here? Show me ANYWHERE in America that is 80% minorities and a NICE, CLEAN, SAFE place to live...just ONE. America is done, kaput, it will cease to exist.



See what I mean ? This guy is one focused SOB.


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Chi-Town 10-16-2017 09:36 PM

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Of course you like Baldwin, Rickey...you're both flaming, scumbag racists.

Proven by your recent post that you considered yourself a good parent, because none of your kids married a "N" or a Jew. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Wiotte is Rickey D for sure? I can see him getting closer and more defensive of Donny B. Those are bad signs of character.

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Don Baldwin 10-16-2017 09:37 PM

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See what I mean ? This guy is one focused SOB.


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Because we're sitting on the tracks and there's a train barreling towards us. The train is a minority majority...they outnumber everyone from age 7 on down.

You call me a racist...I want you to know why I am. They're breeding us out. They are the majority already. America will NOT be what it is today it will resemble the 3rd world...because it will be populated by 3rd worlders. We bring in almost a million refugees every year...most from Africa...they will go into the inner city slums and be a burden forever. They CAN'T mix into the general population...you don't WANT them mixing in!

Our politicians really screwed us when they opened the brown immigration tap.

Wiotte 10-16-2017 09:40 PM

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Because we're sitting on the tracks and there's a train barreling towards us. The train is a minority majority...they outnumber everyone from age 7 on down.

You call me a racist...I want you to know why I am. They're breeding us out. They are the majority already. America will NOT be what it is today it will resemble the 3rd world...because it will be populated by 3rd worlders. We bring in almost a million refugees every year...most from Africa...they will go into the inner city slums and be a burden forever. They CAN'T mix into the general population...you don't WANT them mixing in!

Our politicians really screwed us when they opened the brown immigration tap.



I think you’re exaggerating about them 1 million negros.


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Wiotte 10-16-2017 09:49 PM

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Wiotte is Rickey D for sure? I can see him getting closer and more defensive of Donny B. Those are bad signs of character.

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Lol


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Don Baldwin 10-16-2017 09:58 PM

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I think you’re exaggerating about them 1 million negros.


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"Since 2000, legal immigrants to the United States number approximately 1,000,000 per year"

"The Census Bureau estimates the US population will grow from 317 million in 2014 to 417 million in 2060 with immigration"

"In 35 of the country's 50 largest cities, non-Hispanic whites were at the last census or are predicted to be in the minority.[97] In California, non-Hispanic whites slipped from 80% of the state's population in 1970 to 42% in 2001"

"The Democratic Republic of the Congo contributed (link is external) the highest number of refugees last year"

"Under President Obama it was on pace to resettle 110,000 refugees in fiscal year 2017"

"The United States has for decades been the world’s top resettlement destination for refugees, with roughly 3 million admitted here"

ColdNoMore 10-16-2017 10:05 PM

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Wiotte is Rickey D for sure? I can see him getting closer and more defensive of Donny B. Those are bad signs of character.

No question about it.

He has to be dying inside...that he can't openly attack Talt. :D

Wiotte 10-16-2017 10:10 PM

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"Since 2000, legal immigrants to the United States number approximately 1,000,000 per year"

"The Census Bureau estimates the US population will grow from 317 million in 2014 to 417 million in 2060 with immigration"

"In 35 of the country's 50 largest cities, non-Hispanic whites were at the last census or are predicted to be in the minority.[97] In California, non-Hispanic whites slipped from 80% of the state's population in 1970 to 42% in 2001"

"The Democratic Republic of the Congo contributed (link is external) the highest number of refugees last year"

"Under President Obama it was on pace to resettle 110,000 refugees in fiscal year 2017"

"The United States has for decades been the world’s top resettlement destination for refugees, with roughly 3 million admitted here"



Well, all you can hope is that they pay them taxes. I never met anyone from the Congo, although I was recruited as a mercenary to fight in Zaire in 1972. I turned it down. Bad call, maybe.


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MDLNB 10-17-2017 04:34 AM

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Congress voted to weaken laws to enforce rules that curb the epidemic. Tom Marino is the POTUS choice for new drug enforcement czar. The same guy who was instrumental in weakening the laws. If you have a friend or family member that dies from opioid overdose send your thanks Congress.
My neighbor is a policeman in a neighboring small suburb. Recently the mayor presented awards to six policemen who saved lives from opioid overdose that year. The demographic of that suburb is white middle class.

If a woman has the right to kill her unwanted unborn baby because it is her body, then what is wrong with allowing these people to kill themselves by overdoses? It's their body. Good riddance. If they are that weak, they are not a productive member of our society and a burden to the rest of us. We should provide these drugs to lifer prisoners also. Allow them to finally contribute to our society by taking themselves out of the picture. Harsh? Explain to me the difference between allowing a pregnant woman to kill a part of herself and another person to overdose. They both know what they are doing and they are both self-destructive.

Chi-Town 10-17-2017 10:09 AM

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Well, all you can hope is that they pay them taxes. I never met anyone from the Congo, although I was recruited as a mercenary to fight in Zaire in 1972. I turned it down. Bad call, maybe.


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Haha. Ali didn't turn it down two years later.

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