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VillageBud 12-12-2017 10:26 AM

New Home Noise problems
 
Has anyone had a low volume, oscillating HUM in their house (new or old). I do and it's been identified as being caused by the AC unit's compressor (neighbor & mine) sending a vibration through the ground and being picked up by the house structure. So far they have only added rubber bushings to the AC units bolts connected to the concrete pad-- helped some but seems to me that this house picks up vibration too easily due to metal in house structure/ceilings (studs/ceiling strips). Any experience & comments? tks

graciegirl 12-12-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by VillageBud (Post 1488970)
Has anyone had a low volume, oscillating HUM in their house (new or old). I do and it's been identified as being caused by the AC unit's compressor (neighbor & mine) sending a vibration through the ground and being picked up by the house structure. So far they have only added rubber bushings to the AC units bolts connected to the concrete pad-- helped some but seems to me that this house picks up vibration too easily due to metal in house structure/ceilings (studs/ceiling strips). Any experience & comments? tks


No. Not in either house here. One was frame, this one is block stucco. The homes are close together and some people have good hearing.

Most good hearing disappears over time.

villagetinker 12-12-2017 04:11 PM

OP, One possibility might be that your homes happen to resonate at the same frequency as the A/C compressor. I do not know of any simple fixes if this is the problem. You might be able to test this theory with suitable equipment. For example a sub-woofer, amplifier, and signal generator could provide a variable frequency source, and a calibrated microphone would provide the level of the sound. Then sweeping the frequency range would show if there were any peaks (room resonance).
It just occurred to me that rugs might help, but if the walls or ceilings are resonating, then solutions become much more difficult, as you would need to somehow stiffen the wall or ceiling.
One other thought, a 'sound proof' or sound reducing fence or similar around the A/C unit.

Hope this helps, send me a PM with your phone # if you would like to discuss further.

EPutnam1863 12-12-2017 04:22 PM

It may have something to do with the hurricane code??? The construction of our house was delayed a bit due to something to do with the hurricane code.

retiredguy123 12-12-2017 05:01 PM

I thought I knew everything, but I don't have a clue with your problem. Maybe if I have a few more beers, I'll figure it out.

tuccillo 12-12-2017 05:18 PM

I have had something similar in a previous home with a Carrier Heatpump. It only occurred in heating mode with the compressor in low-speed (it had a two-speed compressor) and was best described as a "hum". The system had a fairly long lineset (about 75' IIRC) and I suspected the issue was that the lineset was effectively tuned to the frequency of the compressor. The Contractor had a similar theory and increased the lineset by a few feet (brazed a short piece to the liquid line) and it markedly reduced but did not totally eliminate the problem. The neighbors house was not part of the problem.

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Originally Posted by VillageBud (Post 1488970)
Has anyone had a low volume, oscillating HUM in their house (new or old). I do and it's been identified as being caused by the AC unit's compressor (neighbor & mine) sending a vibration through the ground and being picked up by the house structure. So far they have only added rubber bushings to the AC units bolts connected to the concrete pad-- helped some but seems to me that this house picks up vibration too easily due to metal in house structure/ceilings (studs/ceiling strips). Any experience & comments? tks


Millerw1946 12-12-2017 09:36 PM

If it's humming, it's probably because it doesn't know the words! :-)

manaboutown 12-12-2017 10:28 PM

Sympathetic vibration from some source?

Sandtrap328 12-13-2017 08:29 AM

Very possible your home is located in a small vortex. Bring some crystals into your home.

Google The Taos Hum.

DeanFL 12-13-2017 09:25 AM

Thought that our 4 year old TV home and 1 year old car was making continual higher pitched buzzing sounds.

Finally determined that it was Tinnitus...

Carla B 12-13-2017 09:27 AM

My husband complains of the same thing. For years now he'll say, "Do you hear that hum?" He only hears it in one room. I don't hear it but then I don't hear rain falling either, unless it's a downpour.

Retiring 12-13-2017 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VillageBud (Post 1488970)
Has anyone had a low volume, oscillating HUM in their house (new or old). I do and it's been identified as being caused by the AC unit's compressor (neighbor & mine) sending a vibration through the ground and being picked up by the house structure. So far they have only added rubber bushings to the AC units bolts connected to the concrete pad-- helped some but seems to me that this house picks up vibration too easily due to metal in house structure/ceilings (studs/ceiling strips). Any experience & comments? tks

When I read your post the first thing that came to mind was the Taos Hum. Hearing is as individual as the person. We all have deficiencies in certain frequency ranges and the opposite is true, we have greater sensitivity in various frequency ranges. Two people in your home may not, or will probably not, hear the same noises.

What is the Taos Hum?

pauld315 12-13-2017 08:31 PM

Hmmm. interesting


What’s the Mysterious Hum Driving People Crazy Around the World? – TheBlaze


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Originally Posted by VillageBud (Post 1488970)
Has anyone had a low volume, oscillating HUM in their house (new or old). I do and it's been identified as being caused by the AC unit's compressor (neighbor & mine) sending a vibration through the ground and being picked up by the house structure. So far they have only added rubber bushings to the AC units bolts connected to the concrete pad-- helped some but seems to me that this house picks up vibration too easily due to metal in house structure/ceilings (studs/ceiling strips). Any experience & comments? tks


VillageBud 12-14-2017 08:26 AM

Update: recently the Lanai fans are causing a noise in the Lanai ceiling. People climbed into attic and discovered that the thin metal strips in the ceiling were not attached to the sheet rock, causing them to vibrate; fans checked and are fine. Seems these metal strips and the metal studs may also be the cause of the resonant Hum from the AC units-- hoping so.

TimeForChange 12-14-2017 09:20 AM

Since I'm practically deaf I would not have that problem.

Jerry8542 12-14-2017 05:07 PM

We had the same problem when we moved into our home in 2009. The noise was coming from the neighbors heat pump, was getting into the structure of the house and was loud enough in our bedroom that we could not sleep. We complained to warranty and the heat pump installer for the neighbors house came and put rubber bumpers under the compressor. That helped a lot. We also planted a row if bushes between the houses to act as a barrier. Not sure that the bushes helped. I think we also just got used to the noise. It does not bother us anymore. I checked into putting foam insulation in the interior walls and could not find anyone locally to do that.

VillageBud 12-14-2017 07:37 PM

Thanks. Yours sounds similar to mine. I think there is more metal in the houses today to resonate with compressors. FYI hearing that a thick rubber horse mat can be installed under the ac unit to tamper even better. Ear plugs can also help

Aloha1 12-15-2017 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1489199)
I have had something similar in a previous home with a Carrier Heatpump. It only occurred in heating mode with the compressor in low-speed (it had a two-speed compressor) and was best described as a "hum". The system had a fairly long lineset (about 75' IIRC) and I suspected the issue was that the lineset was effectively tuned to the frequency of the compressor. The Contractor had a similar theory and increased the lineset by a few feet (brazed a short piece to the liquid line) and it markedly reduced but did not totally eliminate the problem. The neighbors house was not part of the problem.

I suspect your theory is correct. I'm hearing the same type of low constant hum at nite in the bedroom. It only started when the heat came on this past week.

VillageBud 12-16-2017 10:08 AM

Interesting; how old is your home? There are things that can be done to minimize the vibration sources but I'm trying to get the house fixed also. Appears some construction mistakes occurred with our house.

graciegirl 12-16-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VillageBud (Post 1490870)
Interesting; how old is your home? There are things that can be done to minimize the vibration sources but I'm trying to get the house fixed also. Appears some construction mistakes occurred with our house.

Is your house under warranty? What construction mistakes do you think have occurred other than your theory of metal humming? I would be very surprised if warranty wasn't helpful.

Aloha1 12-16-2017 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageBud (Post 1490870)
Interesting; how old is your home? There are things that can be done to minimize the vibration sources but I'm trying to get the house fixed also. Appears some construction mistakes occurred with our house.

A little over one year.

JDRVKR 12-20-2017 06:10 PM

We have an electrical distribution box near our house. It can be heard, but, so far has not caused an vibration.....our house is block stucco.

TNT 01-23-2018 04:04 PM

for three years now
 
The neighbors unit makes that noise now, not the first two years we lived here, but the last three years. She took my recommendation and had a Munns tech. come out and check it out, and the tech told me her unit is working fine, and the noise is normal. He said that all the the homes heat pumps make that noise. Non of my other neighbors have that problem though, and mine does not do that. The tech said that I will have to live with the noise. I have never in my 60 years heard that noise from any heat pump, no matter how cold it was.

Wiotte 01-23-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TNT (Post 1508316)
The neighbors unit makes that noise now, not the first two years we lived here, but the last three years. She took my recommendation and had a Munns tech. come out and check it out, and the tech told me her unit is working fine, and the noise is normal. He said that all the the homes heat pumps make that noise. Non of my other neighbors have that problem though, and mine does not do that. The tech said that I will have to live with the noise. I have never in my 60 years heard that noise from any heat pump, no matter how cold it was.



The Munns tech lied.


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villagetinker 01-23-2018 05:00 PM

I have noticed a low frequency noise in the house during the recent cold spell, have not noticed it since the weather warmed up. I am GUESSING when the heat pump goes into heating mode there maybe a resonant noise frequency. In any case, this is the first time I recall hearing any low frequency noise over the last 4 winters.

Bowtorc 01-23-2018 06:53 PM

It is the ac comp. . Munns changed ours and it was cured. Had a hard time convincing them but after three trips all was well

8notes 01-23-2018 07:45 PM

We have it at our house as well. I'm sure it is the air conditioner belonging to our next door neighbor. I got some good ear plugs.

JOERILLA 01-23-2018 09:15 PM

I had that problem just last week...the A/C tech from SunKool tracked down the humming to the condenser lines that run up the outside wall of the house in a chase that looks like an aluminum downspout to the air handler in the attic. He moved the lines a little bit and solved the problem.


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