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TOMCAT 12-17-2017 09:46 PM

Floridian lifestyle
 
Living in New York, I think I would appreciate more of the laid back life style of the South. How many feel the lifestyle is so much better than the North if you are from there.

Allegiance 12-17-2017 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491678)
Living in New York, I think I would appreciate more of the laid back life style of the South. How many feel the lifestyle is so much better than the North if you are from there.

You have no idea how much better the villages is vs long island. I did that rat race, you will never want to go back except for family.

When you get here and hear villagers complain about traffic, it will bring a smile to your face.

pickleball119 12-17-2017 09:55 PM

If you pick an abundance of sun as a "lifestyle"--I would pick Florida, for sure. Other than that--my heart is still in western New York.

TOMCAT 12-17-2017 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1491680)
You have no idea how much better the villages is vs long island. I did that rat race, you will never want to go back except for family.

When you get here and hear villagers complain about traffic, it will bring a smile to your face.

🤗

Allegiance 12-17-2017 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491689)
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Transportation on Long Island - Wikipedia

"Indeed, locals refer to*Long Island Expressway*as "The*World's Longest Parking Lot"."

Allegiance 12-17-2017 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1491692)
Transportation on Long Island - Wikipedia

"Indeed, locals refer to*Long Island Expressway*as "The*World's Longest Parking Lot"."

Commuted to nyc, by car, motorcycle, bus/subway, long island railroad/subway, express bus and every combination thereof.

People in the villages that don't know NYC commuting would never believe the time and cost.

Allegiance 12-17-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1491694)
Commuted to nyc, by car, motorcycle, bus/subway, long island railroad/subway, express bus and every combination thereof.

People in the villages that don't know NYC commuting would never believe the time and cost.

Real estate taxes of $10,000 on a very modest home. No thank you.

rjm1cc 12-17-2017 10:45 PM

I think you could find a laid back community almost any where.

TOMCAT 12-17-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1491704)
I think you could find a laid back community almost any where.

You are probably right. Even out east in Long Island.

TOMCAT 12-17-2017 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1491692)
Transportation on Long Island - Wikipedia

"Indeed, locals refer to*Long Island Expressway*as "The*World's Longest Parking Lot"."

I try not to use the LIE because of the trucks, but the Southern State to me is the worse when it comes to traffic. I went to Hawaii, and I could not believe the traffic there.

Allegiance 12-17-2017 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491712)
I try not to use the LIE because of the trucks, but the Southern State to me is the worse when it comes to traffic. I went to Hawaii, and I could not believe the traffic there.

I remember many a late weekend night where it seemed everyone on the southern state Parkway was drunk or drugged.

TOMCAT 12-18-2017 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1491696)
Real estate taxes of $10,000 on a very modest home. No thank you.

Long Island taxes are the worse. (School taxes are high and I can see why since I have been working for the school district. The school has so many specialists for all the children’s needs. Occupational Therapist, Speech Therapist, psychologist, to name a few. There are children that really do need them and they are available in the school, but I am sure their salaries are higher than an average teacher’s. Never saw that when I went to school.)

My friend owns a 3 apartment-building in Brooklyn and her taxes are $2400 per year.

Chatbrat 12-18-2017 03:12 AM

In NY & NJ you're a money filter, hard to believe but you can accumulate more money in retirement than you did working up north- very low taxes, and there really is much to spend a lot on,

rubicon 12-18-2017 04:46 AM

my daughter lives in Mount Kisco Westchester County. Loves TV but also loves going down to the city going to the Jets games
Everything is a trade off.

my ideal setting is a small town where one can go to the local coffee shop knowing most folks engage in small talk play a round or two and then disappear .

I was reared in a small city in Central New York. Most people there warm and generous, many good restaurants, but agree the snow and taxes are a real disincentive

TOMCAT 12-18-2017 06:52 AM

So hard to leave where I have been used to but if I am going to worry about money every day (taxes, oil heat, etc.) then it is time to move on.

Just hope the grass is greener on the other side.

billethkid 12-18-2017 06:58 AM

Laid back or what ever it is called.......December through January sitting next to our pool in the sun in my shorts and T shirt with a glass of cognac and cigar while reading emails from friends and relatives talking about the 15 inches of snow they just got!!!!

I always know when I am too far north........... if/when there are no palm trees.

New Englander 12-18-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1491694)
Commuted to nyc, by car, motorcycle, bus/subway, long island railroad/subway, express bus and every combination thereof.

People in the villages that don't know NYC commuting would never believe the time and cost.

I got a darn good idea what it's like. I commuted from the suburbs to Boston for work. I had to leave my home by 5AM and I won't even mention what winter commuting was like :cryin2:

Madelaine Amee 12-18-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1491810)
I got a darn good idea what it's like. I commuted from the suburbs to Boston for work. I had to leave my home by 5AM and I won't even mention what winter commuting was like :cryin2:

Feel your pain ............ We commuted from the North Shore to Burlington (me), he had to go down to Norwood! When he was not in Norwood he was catching a flight out of Logan. 128 year round it's a death trap.

Love TV:smiley: I should add that yes, I miss my two sons and my gandchildren, BUT when we visit the kids are always busy and the grandchildren are gone most of the time. What on earth would we do back there?

Madelaine Amee 12-18-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491754)
So hard to leave where I have been used to but if I am going to worry about money every day (taxes, oil heat, etc.) then it is time to move on.

Just hope the grass is greener on the other side.

I'm going to bite the bullet and say this .......... My very personal opinion is that you are never going to be happy anywhere. You are living in the past with your need to have your job back and I don't think you can move on.

Didn't your job offer retirement counseling when you took retirement? Both of us had several sessions with a retirement counselor provided by the company to help us ease into retiring.

valuemkt 12-18-2017 09:34 AM

Ahh yes .. central and western new york .. Where they turn off the blue sky on Labor Day and dont turn it back on til after Memorial Day .. where winters are measured bu either the number of consecutive days below zero, or the number of consecutive days with one or more inches of snow .. I really miss my 7.5 HP John Deere Snowblower ... NOT

perrjojo 12-18-2017 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1491823)
I'm going to bite the bullet and say this .......... My very personal opinion is that you are never going to be happy anywhere. You are living in the past with your need to have your job back and I don't think you can move on.

Didn't your job offer retirement counseling when you took retirement? Both of us had several sessions with a retirement counselor provided by the company to help us ease into retiring.

You are so correct. When I was first married we moved away from Texas to Florida. I was telling my doctor about our move and she made this well known comment. Happiness is not anyplace, or with anyone. Happiness is found within yourself. If you plan to be happy, you will. If you plan to be unhappy, you will. Of course I was excited about moving to a beach city and we were very happy there. We have moved to several state in our 58 years together. It’s always an adjustment but I have always happy where ever we lived.

collie1228 12-18-2017 10:40 AM

I moved here five years ago from Central NY and haven't looked back. I try to think of anything I miss, and I have to dig deep. I find the lifestyle here just perfect for me. Obviously the upstate winters are a big reason why I like it so much here. The 100+ inches of snow annually in the northern Syracuse suburbs became intolerable. Down here we occasionally get a hard frost, but it's usually gone by 10:00AM. Up there I stopped playing golf soon after Labor Day. We may have to wear long pants a few days a year down here, but we play all year long. I still miss my job and co-workers, as it was very fulfilling for me, but I manage to keep as busy as I want to be down here. I would caution you about finances. You will be getting out from under the NY state income taxes, but if you have financial pressures up there, you are likely to have them here as well. Proceed with care and good luck.

graciegirl 12-18-2017 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491678)
Living in New York, I think I would appreciate more of the laid back life style of the South. How many feel the lifestyle is so much better than the North if you are from there.

There will always things and people that will be treasured about the place you are leaving.

I like it here because we are retired from work.
I like that there is no bitter cold. I like that this place is peopled with mostly older adults and is well taken care of and offers so many things to do that I enjoy. I love being able to learn more about putting color and lines on paper in a pleasant way and I very much loved golf until my scoliosis won last year.

However the very things I listed as pluses can be minuses to a few. Some people like the change of seasons, don't play golf, and are not ready to stop working and living an organized life. And surprisingly, some are not comfortable with people who are a decade or so older than them.........

If we were all alike they would only sell vanilla ice cream.

Fredster 12-18-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491754)
So hard to leave where I have been used to but if I am going to worry about money every day (taxes, oil heat, etc.) then it is time to move on.

Just hope the grass is greener on the other side.

Here are a couple of quotes to ponder...
“Happiness is an inside job!”
and
“Often, we will hang on to the known crummy,
out of fear of the unknown whatever!”

Carla B 12-18-2017 01:37 PM

When we quit working we sold most everything land-based: house, cars, most of the furniture and put the remainder in a 10x10 storage locker. Then we left on a sailboat for over five years. Having committed to a drastic lifestyle change, we found no time to regret leaving, only time to focus on staying afloat and avoiding mishaps. It turned out to be the best time of our lives, at least as it now lives in our memories. Maybe for Tomcat an adventure of some type would be the answer to transitioning to retirement.

Gpsma 12-18-2017 03:13 PM

There is no reason to leave Long Island for TV except for the weather and financial considerations. Long Island still has a lot to offer that TV couldn't match on its best day.

Jdmiata 12-18-2017 03:40 PM

Where I’m from ......NYC / LI the weather sucks and there are too many people.
Other than that I have many great relatives and good friends who still live there. If it wasn’t for that I would never go to NY.

TOMCAT 12-18-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1491934)
There will always things and people that will be treasured about the place you are leaving.

I like it here because we are retired from work.
I like that there is no bitter cold. I like that this place is peopled with mostly older adults and is well taken care of and offers so many things to do that I enjoy. I love being able to learn more about putting color and lines on paper in a pleasant way and I very much loved golf until my scoliosis won last year.

However the very things I listed as pluses can be minuses to a few. Some people like the change of seasons, don't play golf, and are not ready to stop working and living an organized life. And surprisingly, some are not comfortable with people who are a decade or so older than them.........

If we were all alike they would only sell vanilla ice cream.

You are correct there except I am comfortable with people older than me. My husband is a good nine years older than me. Some people just need to grieve and miss what they were doing. Missing the routine, people, extra income. I love the Villages. Always wanted to go there. I left my job so fast that I did not really prepare myself sufficiently.

Allegiance 12-18-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1492001)
There is no reason to leave Long Island for TV except for the weather and financial considerations. Long Island still has a lot to offer that TV couldn't match on its best day.

And crime, pollution.

Allegiance 12-18-2017 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1492001)
There is no reason to leave Long Island for TV except for the weather and financial considerations. Long Island still has a lot to offer that TV couldn't match on its best day.

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1492025)
And crime, pollution.

The health implications of stress and pollution.

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Allegiance 12-18-2017 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1492001)
There is no reason to leave Long Island for TV except for the weather and financial considerations. Long Island still has a lot to offer that TV couldn't match on its best day.

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1492025)
And crime, pollution.

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1492027)
The health implications of stress and pollution.

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I had an uncle murdered in NYC in the 1980s and a friend killed on long long island in the 1990s.

Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders - Crime Prevention Research CenterCrime Prevention Research Center

Check out Sumter County

Aloha1 12-18-2017 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1491850)
You are so correct. When I was first married we moved away from Texas to Florida. I was telling my doctor about our move and she made this well known comment. Happiness is not anyplace, or with anyone. Happiness is found within yourself. If you plan to be happy, you will. If you plan to be unhappy, you will. Of course I was excited about moving to a beach city and we were very happy there. We have moved to several state in our 58 years together. It’s always an adjustment but I have always happy where ever we lived.

What a great comment!:BigApplause:

TOMCAT 12-18-2017 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1492029)
I had an uncle murdered in NYC in the 1980s and a friend killed on long long island in the 1990s.

Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders - Crime Prevention Research CenterCrime Prevention Research Center



Check out Sumter County


What is nice about the Villages is the cleanliness and safety.

Transplant 12-18-2017 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1491821)
Feel your pain ............ We commuted from the North Shore to Burlington (me), he had to go down to Norwood! When he was not in Norwood he was catching a flight out of Logan. 128 year round it's a death trap.

Love TV:smiley: I should add that yes, I miss my two sons and my gandchildren, BUT when we visit the kids are always busy and the grandchildren are gone most of the time. What on earth would we do back there?

I make the commute now from Nashua NH area to West Roxbury MA. Route 3 to 128. I just returned from a lifestyle visit and as I sit here in front of the fireplace with it 28 degrees outside and the driveway coated in ice and snow, I wonder why I'm still here.

Allegiance 12-18-2017 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Transplant (Post 1492109)
I make the commute now from Nashua NH area to West Roxbury MA. Route 3 to 128. I just returned from a lifestyle visit and as I sit here in front of the fireplace with it 28 degrees outside and the driveway coated in ice and snow, I wonder why I'm still here.

Come on down. Visits up north are fine

pauld315 12-18-2017 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491678)
Living in New York, I think I would appreciate more of the laid back life style of the South. How many feel the lifestyle is so much better than the North if you are from there.

Hate to say it but Florida is not really the south per se for the most part.. Some parts are but certainly not The Villages or the larger metro areas. Many parts of Florida are really just New York South. If you want to see the laid back south you need to go to the rural areas in NC, SC, GA, AL, TN, MS.

Aloha1 12-18-2017 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1492147)
Hate to say it but Florida is not really the south per se for the most part.. Some parts are but certainly not The Villages or the larger metro areas. Many parts of Florida are really just New York South. If you want to see the laid back south you need to go to the rural areas in NC, SC, GA, AL, TN, MS.

But those areas still are susceptible to the "S" word.

kcrazorbackfan 12-18-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491678)
Living in New York, I think I would appreciate more of the laid back life style of the South. How many feel the lifestyle is so much better than the North if you are from there.

There's a lot of difference between the laid back life style of the true South (Arkansas included) and the life style of Florida. A lot of people in Florida are not native Southern folk and the ones that are natives grow weary of the transplanted Northern folk.

Yes, at times I do miss being around true Southern folk, but not enough to endure the winters and spring tornado season, plus my wife would never move back.

JoMar 12-18-2017 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pickleball119 (Post 1491681)
If you pick an abundance of sun as a "lifestyle"--I would pick Florida, for sure. Other than that--my heart is still in western New York.

If you classify sun as the lifestyle then your are missing so much here. This place isn't for everyone and some can't handle the separation and do move back north, which is the right thing to do. Those that can't handle the separation and stay are usually wasting their retirement by living in a place that makes them unhappy. Don't feel bad if this isn't your place, find one that makes you happy.

coffeebean 12-18-2017 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1491712)
I try not to use the LIE because of the trucks, but the Southern State to me is the worse when it comes to traffic. I went to Hawaii, and I could not believe the traffic there.

The Belt Parkway beats Southern State for traffic and it does it with narrower lanes and tighter curves in the road. I don't miss driving those parkways.


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