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Allegiance 12-28-2017 09:40 PM

Can we somehow use our mailbox number instead of our village address?
 
It would be a useful option to use on occasion.

mtdjed 12-28-2017 10:38 PM

Do not know why but why not ask the USPS? You get opinions here along with right and wrong answers.

NYGUY 12-28-2017 10:44 PM

Why?

Uberschaf 12-29-2017 05:54 AM

Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

Lovey2 12-29-2017 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Uberschaf (Post 1496510)
Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

:1rotfl:

spring_chicken 12-29-2017 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Uberschaf (Post 1496510)
Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

Then don't move to Dressendorfer Drive?
I specifically told my realtor that I would not buy a house up in the northern sections where they have numbered streets plus a street name. (7415 SE 172nd Legacy Ln).
Many of those are ridiculous.

vaborn 12-29-2017 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1496537)
Then don't move to Dressendorfer Drive?
I specifically told my realtor that I would not buy a house up in the northern sections where they have numbered streets plus a street name. (7415 SE 172nd Legacy Ln).
Many of those are ridiculous.

Totally agree. I do not understand why a number and street. One or the other but not both.

villagetinker 12-29-2017 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 1496466)
Do not know why but why not ask the USPS? You get opinions here along with right and wrong answers.

IMHO, I doubt it, however, you could just get a box at one of the UPS stores.

njbchbum 12-29-2017 10:16 AM

Perhaps because the same p.o. box number occurs at multiple mail centers? Even adding a line to indicate the Village of the postal station can lead to confusion...a friend's GPS kept sending them to the Village of Bonita when they were trying to visit friends on Bonita Dr!

Ooper 12-29-2017 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vaborn (Post 1496546)
Totally agree. I do not understand why a number and street. One or the other but not both.

Those streets are in Marion County and they require all county streets and avenues in their county to be numbered in a grid starting from the center of downtown Ocala in 4 quadrants, NE, NW, SW, & SE. The reason why the numbers are so huge is because of their distance away from the starting point of the grid. The Villages, also wanted to keep with their street naming convention to be consistent with the rest of TV... thus, dual names for Marion County roads within The Villages.

coffeebean 12-30-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1496537)
Then don't move to Dressendorfer Drive?
I specifically told my realtor that I would not buy a house up in the northern sections where they have numbered streets plus a street name. (7415 SE 172nd Legacy Ln).
Many of those are ridiculous.

Agree. We absolutely disregarded any home with the street number and name. We would not consider looking in that section.

coffeebean 12-30-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 1496961)
Those streets are in Marion County and they require all county streets and avenues in their county to be numbered in a grid starting from the center of downtown Ocala in 4 quadrants, NE, NW, SW, & SE. The reason why the numbers are so huge is because of their distance away from the starting point of the grid. The Villages, also wanted to keep with their street naming convention to be consistent with the rest of TV... thus, dual names for Marion County roads within The Villages.

It doesn’t matter to me what the reasoning is. We would still never look for a home in Marion County simply because of how the streets are named.

spring_chicken 12-30-2017 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1497145)
It doesn’t matter to me what the reasoning is. We would still never look for a home in Marion County simply because of how the streets are named.

Bingo. Don't even care why it's done, won't live there.

Bogie Shooter 12-30-2017 01:13 PM

If it ain't broke.....don't fix it.

Is it broke?

rjm1cc 12-30-2017 04:12 PM

Test, send a letter to your box.

GoodLife 12-30-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1497145)
It doesn’t matter to me what the reasoning is. We would still never look for a home in Marion County simply because of how the streets are named.

So you would pay $50,000 more in Sumter for the exact same Designer home in Marion because of the street name? Yikes

Allegiance 12-30-2017 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1497261)
Test, send a letter to your box.

I will send a test letter, I will also ask at the post office after the lines die down. I just assumed it was something that was asked and answered.

There is occasion when you might want someone to mail you something and not have your home address.

There are a lot of people of questionable character, even in the villages.

coffeebean 12-30-2017 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1497275)
So you would pay $50,000 more in Sumter for the exact same Designer home in Marion because of the street name? Yikes

I didn't know the homes in Marion County were priced so much less than Sumter County. Why is that?

To answer your question....Yes I would pay more money for the same designer home anywhere but Marion County with their silly street names.

fishon 12-30-2017 05:50 PM

A few years ago someone in my neighborhood used a similar dodge so their renters could use their postbox and not have to use general delivery in Lady Lake.
It caused problems in the long run if I recall correctly.

GoodLife 12-31-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1497309)
I didn't know the homes in Marion County were priced so much less than Sumter County. Why is that?

To answer your question....Yes I would pay more money for the same designer home anywhere but Marion County with their silly street names.

Lyle Gant, a Realtor here keeps excellent stats on MLS sales. In 2017 Designers in Marion County averaged about $50,000 less than Designers in Sumter. There are several reasons for this. As developer expanded TV from North to South, floor plans tended to get larger and also his construction costs have gone up. For instance, my home, a Designer with 2 car plus golf cart garage originally sold new for $187,000. A similar home in Fenny costs $257,000 or more, and the $257,000 home has zero upgrades. I bought mine in 2016 for $257,000 and it has over $90,000 in upgrades. I could care less what the street name is. Plus there is far less traffic and congestion up here. :thumbup:

Roll With It 12-31-2017 09:14 AM

Looking to buy soon and the street names and different Village names confuse me. What counties are the different town squares located in? Which county has the lowest taxes?

mulligan 12-31-2017 09:30 AM

Spanish Springs is in Lake County, Sumter and brownwood are in Sumter county.

Bogie Shooter 12-31-2017 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Roll With It (Post 1497539)
Looking to buy soon and the street names and different Village names confuse me. What counties are the different town squares located in? Which county has the lowest taxes?

do a search on this site for taxes. Or go to the tax collector page of each county.

GoodLife 12-31-2017 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Roll With It (Post 1497539)
Looking to buy soon and the street names and different Village names confuse me. What counties are the different town squares located in? Which county has the lowest taxes?

Go to Zillow and use map search. Then click on similar priced homes in the three different counties. When you click on a listing, scroll down to price/tax history. There numbers are accurate as far as I know, at least on homes I own.

autumnspring 12-31-2017 10:52 AM

But
 
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Originally Posted by Uberschaf (Post 1496510)
Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

A service rep coming to your home will likely use GPS.

Your mailbox number was given based on when you bought when you section was built. Our neighbor, next door, has one row up from us. When, they were away, we got their mail.
THEY GOT FAR BETTER SEATS THEN WE DID-but, at least we are not BOTTOM ROW..

GoodLife 12-31-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1497578)
A service rep coming to your home will likely use GPS.

Your mailbox number was given based on when you bought when you section was built. Our neighbor, next door, has one row up from us. When, they were away, we got their mail.
THEY GOT FAR BETTER SEATS THEN WE DID-but, at least we are not BOTTOM ROW..

I have a bottom row box on one of my homes. I am sure, on my deathbed, it will be the regret of my life.

Actually scratch that, my biggest regret will be my longish street address in Marion County.

Marathon Man 12-31-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1497584)
I have a bottom row box on one of my homes. I am sure, on my deathbed, it will be the regret of my life.

Actually scratch that, my biggest regret will be my longish street address in Marion County.

:laugh:

autumnspring 12-31-2017 11:19 AM

In reply
 
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Originally Posted by Roll With It (Post 1497539)
Looking to buy soon and the street names and different Village names confuse me. What counties are the different town squares located in? Which county has the lowest taxes?

The street names are a test. You have to want it bad enough to find it. OR, Garman does a good job of updating in the Villages.

ADVICE-you ask about taxes-PERHAPS YOU ARE FROM ONE OF THE HIGH TAX STATES-NY, NJ.CALIF. As ex-New Yorkers, our house is larger here, out land is larger here and our TAXES are about 2/3rds less. Our auto insurance is about 1/3 of what we used to pay for the same coverage. We have an all electric house and our electric bill is about half of what we used to pay for electricity and GAS heat.
I BELIEVE, the electric rate I KNOW the water rate and the BONDS are higher in the NEWER sections. If, you are buying a resale, I would drive around to see traffic flow. To see parking. To see dogs.To meet people who live there and just to talk. YOU CAN LEARN A GREAT DEAL FROM JUST LISTENING.

VApeople 12-31-2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Roll With It (Post 1497539)
Which county has the lowest taxes?

As I understand, the real estate taxes in Lake County are about 50% higher than Sumter County.

We have been in our house in Sumter County for just over a year. Our real estate taxes are about 1% of the value of our house.

Barefoot 12-31-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1497145)
We would still never look for a home in Marion County simply because of how the streets are named.

I feel the same way about the addresses in Marion County. :eek:
However no need to move to Fenny! We are happily located just south of CR 466.

champion6 12-31-2017 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Roll With It (Post 1497539)
<snip> Which county has the lowest taxes?

Go to this thread and look at the total millage rates to compare taxes: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...0/#post1477081

The answer is unincorporated Sumter County, but not within Wildwood city limits.

Jdmiata 12-31-2017 04:38 PM

Short answer.....no

HMLRHT1 01-01-2018 01:19 AM

As a retired carrier of the USPS I will tell you the answer would be no. All of the computerized equipment used to sort mail is done by address that you have on your house or official PO Boxes. Other wise it will be returned to sender, address unknown.

bprairie31 01-01-2018 09:18 AM

I worked for Address Management in the USPS for many years before retiring. Unless the entire system has changed drastically in a few years, The answer is no, you cannot use your mailbox number instead of your street address. All letter mail is automated and is not looked at by a human until it gets to its final destination. The way that automation works is that it reads the mail and sorts it based on a national database of addresses. Your mailbox number is not listed in that database. Using only that number will result in your mail being returned to sender.

Bogie Shooter 01-01-2018 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HMLRHT1 (Post 1497834)
As a retired carrier of the USPS I will tell you the answer would be no. All of the computerized equipment used to sort mail is done by address that you have on your house or official PO Boxes. Other wise it will be returned to sender, address unknown.

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Originally Posted by bprairie31 (Post 1497907)
I worked for Address Management in the USPS for many years before retiring. Unless the entire system has changed drastically in a few years, The answer is no, you cannot use your mailbox number instead of your street address. All letter mail is automated and is not looked at by a human until it gets to its final destination. The way that automation works is that it reads the mail and sorts it based on a national database of addresses. Your mailbox number is not listed in that database. Using only that number will result in your mail being returned to sender.

After 32 opinions...........finally some facts.

Nancy Mandigo 01-01-2018 10:07 AM

An ambulance or fire truck will never find you without a street address.

CFrance 01-01-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Uberschaf (Post 1496510)
Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

Uberschaf on Dressendorfer? That must make for a return address that fills up the envelope!:laugh:

CFrance 01-01-2018 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1497910)
After 32 opinions...........finally some facts.

I bet this was a shorter process than calling the USPS, though.:evil6:
We've been that route.

John_W 01-01-2018 03:07 PM

Many of the major cities in Florida use numbered street and avenues. Miami for one, and where I grew up, St. Petersburg is another. If used properly it's a great way to find a location quick. I grew up at 670 17th Ave. South in St. Pete. That is 17 blocks south of Central Ave and 7 blocks west of Tampa Bay.

Central Avenue runs east to west and divides St. Petersburg into north and south. So if you lived at 17 ave. North, and I live at 17th Ave. South, you would be 34 blocks north of me. Avenues run east and west, streets run north and south and start at Tampa Bay. If you are on 4th Street North, you are 4 blocks west of Tampa Bay and somewhere north of Central Avenue. The easiest place in the world to find an address without looking at a map is St. Petersburg.

There are exceptions, a few streets have names, however they are in alphabetical order. Because Tampa Bay isn't at 90 degrees and slants to the northeast. Streets east of 1st Street are labeled as Northeast. So 2nd St. Northeast would be north of Central and east of 1st St., there is only about 3 or 4 streets that are northeast.

http://www.stpete.org/maps/docs/DowntownMap.gif

Fourpar 01-01-2018 03:13 PM

Thanks, always wondered about the "different" street names in Marion!


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