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TOMCAT 12-31-2017 11:38 PM

The Cold in New York
 
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.

Thinking of moving to the Villages and all set to go and even left my job, but there is this thought that maybe I will miss the NY winters. Maybe not the snow too much.

dbussone 12-31-2017 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497823)
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.



Thinking of moving to the Villages and all set to go and even left my job, but there is this thought that maybe I will miss the NY winters. Maybe not the snow too much.



Born in Maine, grew up in Boston. Don’t miss the cold at all, and the snow even less.


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Nucky 01-01-2018 12:55 AM

One of the greatest gifts of Florida other than having a pool or being able to work on improving our health is the lack of the bitter cold you now are experiencing. I have seen people post that they miss the four seasons. If I want the Four Seasons I just put in a CD. We have two seasons here, Super Summer and the payoff which is now. It is colder now than last year. We were in the pool and very comfortable last New Years Eve at 11 PM. Not so much this year. Oh well, I still had shorts and a t-shirt on.

If you really, really miss the cold you can go back for a visit. I don't think you will. Happy New Year, keep packing. LOL.

graciegirl 01-01-2018 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497823)
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.

Thinking of moving to the Villages and all set to go and even left my job, but there is this thought that maybe I will miss the NY winters. Maybe not the snow too much.

I think you are over evaluating or you are not ready to make a major change. I would wait until I was ready.

But some folks have difficulties with all decisions. Only you can answer that. I hope you make the best decision for yourself and have a joyous New Year.

patfla06 01-01-2018 04:48 AM

I do not miss the cold or snow at all.
I do miss the seasons, especially Fall.

After having lived in FLA for 20 years I now wear a
jacket at temps I used to be in shorts. 😳

aninjamom 01-01-2018 07:17 AM

I have lived in upstate NY, south NJ, and Colorado.
No I do not miss driving in or shoveling snow, or the cold! The only thing I miss is lilacs, and I'll just have to live with that.

rjn5656 01-01-2018 07:24 AM

Just got back yesterday. Don't miss it at all. Give me Florida any time.

Taltarzac725 01-01-2018 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1497836)
I do not miss the cold or snow at all.
I do miss the seasons, especially Fall.

After having lived in FLA for 20 years I now wear a
jacket at temps I used to be in shorts. 😳

I was out and about yesterday and saw a girl running around in shorts and a slight coat here in the Villages and I had a jacket I would use in the -25 wind chill days in Minneapolis. Of course, I did not have the four layers I would have had on up there. And the face mask.

I have been in FL since 1996 and get cold rather easily.

fw102807 01-01-2018 07:46 AM

Not...at...alll

TOMCAT 01-01-2018 08:07 AM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1497835]I think you are over evaluating or you are not ready to make a major change. I would wait until I was ready.

But some folks have difficulties with all decisions. Only you can answer that. I hope you make the best decision for yourself and have a joyous New Year.[/QUOTE

Happy New Year to you also. Yes you are right. We are waiting for my son to get married in April in NY. I am wondering if we will ever get down there. Last year I was ready. Actually have two buyers that are interested in buying my house. I think it is the waiting around that is making me hesitant.

Allegiance 01-01-2018 08:33 AM

[QUOTE=TOMCAT;1497865]
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1497835)
I think you are over evaluating or you are not ready to make a major change. I would wait until I was ready.

But some folks have difficulties with all decisions. Only you can answer that. I hope you make the best decision for yourself and have a joyous New Year.[/QUOTE

Happy New Year to you also. Yes you are right. We are waiting for my son to get married in April in NY. I am wondering if we will ever get down there. Last year I was ready. Actually have two buyers that are interested in buying my house. I think it is the waiting around that is making me hesitant.

Sell asap and get here. April is the best time to look for a house here. Lots of availability for sale or short term rentals so you can look slowly.

To the original question, the answer is enormously complex....


No

dnobles 01-01-2018 08:38 AM

We were in Upstate NY for Christmas The cold air felt good to me for a short time. Glad to be home in TV

stan the man 01-01-2018 08:44 AM

I am up north for the holidays. I think maybe I'll stay for awhile after looking at the temperatures in The Villages I can't believe it's that cold in Paradise

fw102807 01-01-2018 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1497887)
I am up north for the holidays. I think maybe I'll stay for awhile after looking at the temperatures in The Villages I can't believe it's that cold in Paradise

At least we are not using minus numbers. This is just sweater weather.

Arctic Fox 01-01-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497823)
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.

If you miss the cold and the snow you can always go ski-ing for a week. You'll probably find that will be enough, and you'll be looking forward to heading back to The Villages.

GJohn 01-01-2018 10:03 AM

I'm a lifer upstate NY'er and can't wait to get to my home in The Villages....counting the days!

tophcfa 01-01-2018 10:07 AM

We are up north now and can't wait to get to our Villages home ASAP! It's currently -2 outside and the min/max thermometer says it got to -8 last night, and the wind is howling so I can only guess what the wind chill is? As an avid former skier I used to live for the winter, but with bad knees now, I have no need for cold and snow. What is worse is the ice, very dangerous and easy to slip and fall. Our dog doesn't even want to go out in this weather as her paws instantly freeze. Not to mention how short the days are up north. At the Villages the sun sets almost an hour later than up here, where it is pitch dark before 5 PM this time of year.
When we are up north we always wish we were at the Villages, when we are at the Villages we never wish we could go back north. Dam those responsibilities keeping us from becoming FROGS.

John_W 01-01-2018 10:11 AM

I believe TV has about 18,000 veterans, I think as a group those of us are use to change and moving all over the country and the world. Others who have worked for large national companies have also experienced moves for their job. The ones who have grown up and lived their whole life near family in the same town or city probably have the greatest difficulty when making a major move. If you're considering the move strictly for improved weather, maybe seasonal stays are best for you. For the others looking for better weather, lifestyle, travel and adventure, then make the move to Florida without hesitation, because it's here.

manaboutown 01-01-2018 10:18 AM

The longest 20 years I ever spent in 30 months was in upstate New York. 144" of snow one winter!

Last night it was about 10 degrees F in NYC at midnight whereas in Moscow, Russia it was (only) 33 degrees F. Weird, huh?

Frankly, I prefer to live in a warm climate. If I want to see snow up close I can drive or fly to it up on a mountain somewhere and stay at a ski resort if I so choose.

rexxfan 01-01-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497823)
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.

Thinking of moving to the Villages and all set to go and even left my job, but there is this thought that maybe I will miss the NY winters. Maybe not the snow too much.

So, in Feb '14 we left NY and spent 3 weeks in the Orlando area to escape Winter. It was great. Then the 3 weeks were up and we had to go back. When we arrived home, there were 27 inches of snow on our driveway. I barely made it past the snowdrift at our front door to get into the house so I could get the snowblower out. I spent the next 8 hours clearing the driveway. Definitely not smart.

So, in '15 we rented a house here in The Villages and stayed until all the snow melted back in NY. Much smarter!

While here in '15 we decided to buy a house so that we could come back every Winter and not have to pay the high rent. Genius!

Do it, you won't regret it.
--
Bob C

Abby10 01-01-2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497823)
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.

Thinking of moving to the Villages and all set to go and even left my job, but there is this thought that maybe I will miss the NY winters. Maybe not the snow too much.

My aunt and uncle who lived in New England much of their lives just left this morning after a brief stop at our house on their way back to Florida. They couldn't WAIT to get back. I don't think they miss the cold or snow one bit. I don't think I will either. When I was younger, I thought I couldn't live in an area that didn't have 4 seasons. My attitude has changed a great deal since then.

I think the thing that struck me the most was the $49 utility bill my tenant got in Florida this month versus the $240 utility bill we got up here. I said to my husband - we could have saved almost $200 just this month by having moved to Florida! To my misfortune, he didn't bite.

Counting down the winters here and will be happy to say good riddance. I figure if I ever yearn for any of the white stuff, it's nothing a short visit up north won't cure.

Barefoot 01-01-2018 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497823)
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.

We're from Canada. :cold:
We've been seasonal residents in TV for the past ten years from November to April.
We would miss the seasons, but we spend spring, summer and fall in Ontario.
And NO, we do not miss the coldness of winter one little bit. :pepper2:

EPutnam1863 01-01-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497823)
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.

Thinking of moving to the Villages and all set to go and even left my job, but there is this thought that maybe I will miss the NY winters. Maybe not the snow too much.

Yes it does get very cold up here in the Minneapolis area which I won't miss, and yes, it does get very hot and humid down in Florida during the summers which I would not miss either. So you make the decision...which would you not miss more?

EPutnam1863 01-01-2018 10:55 AM

[QUOTE=Allegiance;1497877]
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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497865)
Sell asap and get here. April is the best time to look for a house here. Lots of availability for sale or short term rentals so you can look slowly.

To the original question, the answer is enormously complex....


No

Do not sell yet. Rent some place for an entire year, not part of the year, but an entire year.

EPutnam1863 01-01-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Abby10 (Post 1497981)

I think the thing that struck me the most was the $49 utility bill my tenant got in Florida this month versus the $240 utility bill we got up here. I said to my husband - we could have saved almost $200 just this month by having moved to Florida! To my misfortune, he didn't bite.

Let's not forget the high AC bills during 8 months of the year in Florida and other parts of the deep South.

EPutnam1863 01-01-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1497887)
I am up north for the holidays. I think maybe I'll stay for awhile after looking at the temperatures in The Villages I can't believe it's that cold in Paradise

Yes it can be that cold. There were several days when we had to wear winter jackets, hats, and gloves when we lived in Melbourne three times. No boots though. But still there were wonderful days during winter times.

rtharner 01-01-2018 11:03 AM

Used to live in Kingston, NY. No plans to return.

New Englander 01-01-2018 11:21 AM

I'm from Massachusetts and as I got older the cold really does a number on my body. I'll take the summer heat/humidity here in Florida over the north any day. A short plane flight and I can go back to visit family. I'm glad I'm here!

2newyorkers 01-01-2018 11:26 AM

Woke up this morning on Long Island and it was 7 degrees. At 7:00 our electric went out. Due to the extreme cold outside it immediately started to get cold in the house. Thank goodness only out for 1.5 hours. Worried about our pipes freezing.

dbussone 01-01-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1498017)
Let's not forget the high AC bills during 8 months of the year in Florida and other parts of the deep South.



My AC bill in FL has never approached the cost of fuel oil in the winters of Taxachusetts. We don’t miss the snow, cold, winter, and..oh yes - the outrageous real estate and income taxes.


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dbussone 01-01-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1498046)
I'm from Massachusetts and as I got older the cold really does a number on my body. I'll take the summer heat/humidity here in Florida over the north any day. A short plane flight and I can go back to visit family. I'm glad I'm here!



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j&b1216 01-01-2018 12:57 PM

Originally from upstate NY, Lake Placid to be exact, originally from Utica/Rome area. Do I miss the snow, ice, white outs, black ice, shoveling/snow blowing, driving behind snow plows, being cold no matter how many layers? Um, NO! My husband is on the fence about it and says he 'enjoyed' the activity of it all . I think he misses hockey! but just today in the rainy chilly New Year's Day, he admitted he was cold (dressed in shorts and a jacket) and thinks he's becoming a Floridian. We don't live in the Villages yet but in southern FL trying desperately to get to sell the house and move to the Villages. He won't be able to hang out at the hockey rink in the Villages but there will be lots of other things to do! It is a big decision to move south. You have to be ready! Good luck!

Abby10 01-01-2018 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1498017)
Let's not forget the high AC bills during 8 months of the year in Florida and other parts of the deep South.

I have the same heating system here in PA that we have in our FL home. Both houses are all electric. Of course, our FL home is much smaller. But even comparing utility bills with our cousins in FL, who have much larger houses, our bills up north on a monthly basis are almost always higher than theirs. Maybe one or 2 months ours is lower by like $20 or so.

So for us, moving to FL will be a big win in that sense. Maybe it depends on where you are coming from and the utility rates in your former area that makes it a different scenario for you.

fw102807 01-01-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Abby10 (Post 1498122)
I have the same heating system here in PA that we have in our FL home. Both houses are all electric. Of course, our FL home is much smaller. But even comparing utility bills with our cousins in FL, who have much larger houses, our bills up north on a monthly basis are almost always higher than theirs. Maybe one or 2 months ours is lower by like $20 or so.

So for us, moving to FL will be a big win in that sense. Maybe it depends on where you are coming from and the utility rates in your former area that makes it a different scenario for you.

We have not found the AC bills to be anywhere near what we paid up north. It is much more expensive to heat than to cool.

Abby10 01-01-2018 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Abby10 (Post 1498122)
I have the same heating system here in PA that we have in our FL home. Both houses are all electric. Of course, our FL home is much smaller. But even comparing utility bills with our cousins in FL, who have much larger houses, our bills up north on a monthly basis are almost always higher than theirs. Maybe one or 2 months ours is lower by like $20 or so.

So for us, moving to FL will be a big win in that sense. Maybe it depends on where you are coming from and the utility rates in your former area that makes it a different scenario for you.

Sorry, I should have said same heating/air conditioning system - in other words a heat pump with back-up electric. Otherwise, comments above still stand.

EdFNJ 01-01-2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TOMCAT (Post 1497823)
Right now in NY it is very cold. Does anyone that lives in the Villages and came from New York or anywhere up north that gets very cold, miss the coldness.

Thinking of moving to the Villages and all set to go and even left my job, but there is this thought that maybe I will miss the NY winters. Maybe not the snow too much.


No, but I want a refund for this week when temps here will dive into the low 20's! Wasn't there some sort of "below freezing refund" warranty that comes with the monthly amenities fee? :D

We moved in Jan 2017 (well first 2 mos we rented) and on the ride down from NJ we were 5 miles ahead of a 28" blizzard in NC then the day we arrived (Jan 6th I believe) it was 30 degrees here.

cmb1951 01-01-2018 03:18 PM

Came from Long Island. Don't miss the cold, snowy days and when it does snow there, the beautiful wonderland only lasts a few hours...then the mess.

New Englander 01-01-2018 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1498237)
No, but I want a refund for this week when temps here will dive into the low 20's! Wasn't there some sort of "below freezing refund" warranty that comes with the monthly amenities fee? :D

We moved in Jan 2017 (well first 2 mos we rented) and on the ride down from NJ we were 5 miles ahead of a 28" blizzard in NC then the day we arrived (Jan 6th I believe) it was 30 degrees here.

Low 20's? Surely you jest.

EPutnam1863 01-01-2018 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1497912)
At least we are not using minus numbers. This is just sweater weather.

And sweater weather is my favorite. Sweaters nicely cover up flabby and crepey arms.

EdFNJ 01-01-2018 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1498337)
Low 20's? Surely you jest.

That is LOWS in the LOW 20's. My sister just moved in here on Saturday. She thought there was no heat, only A/C in FL. :D


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