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JimD215 02-26-2018 02:01 PM

Golf carts in street
 
So I’m driving in my car and this woman is driving in the street in her STREET Legal (advertised on rear of cart) golf cart I know it is legal but when there is nobody in sight in the golf cart lane why would you hold up vehicles just because you can? Common sense goes a long way.

joldnol 02-26-2018 02:46 PM

I’ve seen it too

baustgen 02-26-2018 03:55 PM

In a hurry and doesn't want to use the tunnels.

Shambles 02-26-2018 04:13 PM

I think you answered your own questions: "because she can". It amazes me how inconsiderate some people are, especially on the road.

Rickg 02-26-2018 04:35 PM

If it is street legal and it is a street that has a golf cart lane. It is illegal for her to drive in the golf cart lane. She could receive a ticket if driving in the golf cart lane. It’s a licensed vehicle the same as a car In this instance.

capecoralbill 02-26-2018 04:39 PM

what sense does that make, It is a street legal golf cart that is not allowed in the golf cart lane??? There fore it is NOT a golf cart. Simple

pauld315 02-26-2018 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickg (Post 1518716)
If it is street legal and it is a street that has a golf cart lane. It is illegal for her to drive in the golf cart lane. She could receive a ticket if driving in the golf cart lane. It’s a licensed vehicle the same as a car In this instance.

I don't think that is true. I know people who have street legal carts and ride on the MMPs when the speed limit on the street is over 30.

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Marathon Man 02-26-2018 04:47 PM

When new to the villages, there is much to learn. Sometimes things that don't seem to make a lot of sense, actually do - once you understand the "why's" behind the actions.

Rickg 02-26-2018 05:14 PM

Clarification
 
Just a clarification. She can drive on all MMP’s. She cannot drive in the “cart” lane on the street.

Topspinmo 02-26-2018 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickg (Post 1518739)
Just a clarification. She can drive on all MMP’s. She cannot drive in the “cart” lane on the street.

Please quote your source. I see licensed golf carts all the time in diamond lanes.

JimD215 02-26-2018 08:14 PM

That’s why I asked. Always see the licensed carts in the cart lane. This is the first time seeing this

Miles42 02-26-2018 09:52 PM

beating another dead horse. There are those here that feel privlilaged to do as they please. I suspect been that way all their lives. not opened to any logical thoughts

Fredman 02-26-2018 10:27 PM

I don’t understand the need for a street legal cart. If u have one, please give me a reason why

EdFNJ 02-26-2018 11:24 PM

Golf carts in street
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1518848)
I don’t understand the need for a street legal cart. If u have one, please give me a reason why



So you can go places on a road that a golf cart that is not street legal can go.

Everyone who lives here doesn't just stay "in the bubble." [emoji16]

A few Examples:

You can cross RT44 on the south end.
You can take it to the new Lowes on 466a.
If you live in the historic area you can take it to Sam's Club, Home Depot and many other places in those malls. You can cross Rolling Acres to get to all the stores there (you CAN NOT cross 441). You can take it to our periodontist or other doctors on CR100 behind Walmart on 466.

When one has 1 car it makes getting around more convenient when the one car is in use.





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EdFNJ 02-26-2018 11:37 PM

Golf carts in street
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickg (Post 1518739)
Just a clarification. She can drive on all MMP’s. She cannot drive in the “cart” lane on the street.



Unless I see that somewhere in writing I do no believe that to be true. Just checked with the state on this for my GC and the difference from street legal to golf cart is the street legal cart REQUIRES certain safety features such as wipers, seat belts, property damage and personal injury insurance and a couple other safety items. It can go 25mph vs 20mph not that most GC here can't to that anyway.

You do need it to be initially inspected by the State to confirm the features and pay a few hundred bucks for license and reg like a car.

https://www.flhsmv.gov/pdf/mv/lowspeedvehicles.pdf




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Biker Dog 02-27-2018 03:32 AM

BECAUSE SHE CAN. She paid for that right.

Chatbrat 02-27-2018 04:43 AM

she should know the difference between being right & dead right--when a golf cart ties with a car -guess who wins

She doesn't know her audience--lots of newbies learning the lay of the land, lots of drivers who should have stopped driving years ago, lots of drivers who came from big cities who really have not had to drive till they moved here=so if you want to play in traffic with a golf cart-make sure all your funeral attachments are in place

coffeebean 02-27-2018 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1518848)
I don’t understand the need for a street legal cart. If u have one, please give me a reason why

After owning an electric golf cart for nearly a year, my sister and her husband purchased a street legal electric golf cart for one reason and one reason only. They still wanted an electric cart but they wanted a cart that would go faster than 20 MPH. They wanted the ability to pass a slow moving cart on the MMPs with ease.

My sister never drove their street legal cart in the street. She said she felt very unsafe driving their street legal cart in the traffic circles so she never did go through a traffic circle with that cart.

It was all about the speed and they were happy to get that speed with a street legal cart. My sister and her husband traded in that Par Car street legal cart because it was a maintenance nightmare. They now own a Yamaha gas cart and their gas cart goes as fast as their electric street legal cart did so they are happy.

JerryP 02-27-2018 06:17 AM

[QUOTE=EdFNJ;1518857]So you can go places on a road that a golf cart that is not street legal can go.

Everyone who lives here doesn't just stay "in the bubble." [emoji16]

A few Examples:

You can cross RT44 on the south end.
You can take it to the new Lowes on 466a.
If you live in the historic area you can take it to Sam's Club, Home Depot and many other places in those malls. You can cross Rolling Acres to get to all the stores there (you CAN NOT cross 441). You can take it to our periodontist or other doctors on CR100 behind Walmart on 466.

When one has 1 car it makes getting around more convenient when the one car is in use.


How can you go to the new Lowe’s on 466A? The posted speed limit is 45 mph. A low-speed vehicle may be operated only on streets where the posted speed limit is 35 miles per hour or less.

EdFNJ 02-27-2018 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=JerryP;1518878]
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1518857)
So you can go places on a road that a golf cart that is not street legal can go.



Everyone who lives here doesn't just stay "in the bubble." [emoji16]



A few Examples:



You can cross RT44 on the south end.

You can take it to the new Lowes on 466a.

If you live in the historic area you can take it to Sam's Club, Home Depot and many other places in those malls. You can cross Rolling Acres to get to all the stores there (you CAN NOT cross 441). You can take it to our periodontist or other doctors on CR100 behind Walmart on 466.



When one has 1 car it makes getting around more convenient when the one car is in use.





How can you go to the new Lowe’s on 466A? The posted speed limit is 45 mph. A low-speed vehicle may be operated only on streets where the posted speed limit is 35 miles per hour or less.



OK, so you caught me on one. Was thinking of examples. Sorrrrrrry. There are probably 199 others but when I wrote that reply I was sitting on the john with my iPad and wasn't fully concentrating on typing. :D


Edit: Wondering if you can get around that by crossing 466A at the light at Pinellas with the street legal GC? Probably not. I do find it strange that bicycles can do 25 on those roads (466A/466) but Street Legal GC's can't. I guess if the laws made sense they wouldn't be laws like (statement follows is not political just fact)the one you can buy an AR15 at 18 but not a pistol until you are 21. Such consistency.

champion6 02-27-2018 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1518857)
So you can go places on a road that a golf cart that is not street legal can go.

Everyone who lives here doesn't just stay "in the bubble." [emoji16]

A few Examples:
You can cross RT44 on the south end.
You can take it to the new Lowes on 466a.
If you live in the historic area you can take it to Sam's Club, Home Depot and many other places in those malls. You can cross Rolling Acres to get to all the stores there (you CAN NOT cross 441). You can take it to our periodontist or other doctors on CR100 behind Walmart on 466.

When one has 1 car it makes getting around more convenient when the one car is in use.

I'm sure half of what you stated is practically useless or false.

You can cross RT44 on the south end. At Morse - no you can't because CR468 has a 45 mph speed limit. At Buena Vista - great, you can visit Wildwood Country Resort. At Powell Road - Hey, you can shop at Sparr and the new small strip of retail.

You can take it to the new Lowe's on 466a. No, because CR466A has a 45 mph speed limit. You must use 466A to enter Lowe's.

doctors on CR100 behind Walmart on 466. I'm sure you meant CR103. (I know I'm nit picking on this one.)

Edit: I'm not "piling on." I didn't see the post by JerryP at the time I posted this.

trichard 02-27-2018 09:02 AM

How often do you drive down the street when you come upon a car driving below the speed limit holding up traffic? So what is the difference?

Rickg 02-27-2018 09:17 AM

Sumter Cty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1518858)
Unless I see that somewhere in writing I do no believe that to be true. Just checked with the state on this for my GC and the difference from street legal to golf cart is the street legal cart REQUIRES certain safety features such as wipers, seat belts, property damage and personal injury insurance and a couple other safety items. It can go 25mph vs 20mph not that most GC here can't to that anyway.

You do need it to be initially inspected by the State to confirm the features and pay a few hundred bucks for license and reg like a car.

https://www.flhsmv.gov/pdf/mv/lowspeedvehicles.pdf




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Check with Sumter Cty. Sherriff’s office. (Since they are the ones that write the violations, I will go with what they say). But that’s me 😎

JimD215 02-27-2018 09:47 AM

Can someone please show me where I can read the rules that street legal golf carts are not allowed to use the golf cart lanes in TV. Thank you.

Topspinmo 02-27-2018 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1518877)
After owning an electric golf cart for nearly a year, my sister and her husband purchased a street legal electric golf cart for one reason and one reason only. They still wanted an electric cart but they wanted a cart that would go faster than 20 MPH. They wanted the ability to pass a slow moving cart on the MMPs with ease.

My sister never drove their street legal cart in the street. She said she felt very unsafe driving their street legal cart in the traffic circles so she never did go through a traffic circle with that cart.

It was all about the speed and they were happy to get that speed with a street legal cart. My sister and her husband traded in that Par Car street legal cart because it was a maintenance nightmare. They now own a Yamaha gas cart and their gas cart goes as fast as their electric street legal cart did so they are happy.

If want go fast should of got gas cart or altered par car they can go 40 plus when you take the governor out. My gas Yamaha could go 40, but I say within the legal limit 20 MPH?

capecoralbill 02-27-2018 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1518877)
wanted a cart that would go faster than 20 MPH. They wanted the ability to pass a slow moving cart on the MMPs with ease.

.

Is there a speed limit on the MMPs?

Chatbrat 02-27-2018 10:08 AM

I was told the Sheriffs have zero jurisdiction on MMPs except for DUI/accidents

blueeagle65 02-27-2018 10:13 AM

20 mph - Period!

Polar Bear 02-27-2018 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueeagle65 (Post 1518961)
20 mph - Period!

Yep. That's the law.

And I'd say at least 10% of cart drivers in TV rigidly adhere to it! (Roughly the same percentage as never go 72 on the interstate. :) )

EdFNJ 02-27-2018 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1518943)
If want go fast should of got gas cart or altered par car they can go 40 plus when you take the governor out. My gas Yamaha could go 40, but I say within the legal limit 20 MPH?



The fact that you drive 20 is meaningless. If the cart is CAPABLE of exceeding 20 it is in violation and your insurance will not pay if they find out.




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EdFNJ 02-27-2018 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickg (Post 1518935)
Check with Sumter Cty. Sherriff’s office. (Since they are the ones that write the violations, I will go with what they say). But that’s me [emoji41]



Those folks often SAY what they believe, think, or want to be true without actually checking for an ordinance. But I am definitely going to check because I am planning on getting mine street legal (it's not a "normal" cart like 99% of them). I do not believe there is any such ordinance but will check with them and the State.




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EdFNJ 02-27-2018 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimD215 (Post 1518942)
Can someone please show me where I can read the rules that street legal golf carts are not allowed to use the golf cart lanes in TV. Thank you.



No one can. Everyone "just knows." [emoji849]. Going to look into it soon.




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tag460 02-27-2018 12:57 PM

Depending where she is going using the golf cart paths this time of year is slow travel. Common sense she is allowed to travel on the roads, I would be utilizing the roads if my golf cart was street legal. What the difference when you get behind someone in a car that's driving very slow and there is no passing lane.

EdFNJ 02-27-2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1518925)
I'm sure half of what you stated is practically useless or false.

You can cross RT44 on the south end. At Morse - no you can't because CR468 has a 45 mph speed limit. At Buena Vista - great, you can visit Wildwood Country Resort. At Powell Road - Hey, you can shop at Sparr and the new small strip of retail.

You can take it to the new Lowe's on 466a. No, because CR466A has a 45 mph speed limit. You must use 466A to enter Lowe's.

doctors on CR100 behind Walmart on 466. I'm sure you meant CR103. (I know I'm nit picking on this one.)

Edit: I'm not "piling on." I didn't see the post by JerryP at the time I posted this.



Useless for YOU. The only error was 466a. There was one typo 103 vs 100 because there was no map on the potty. 44 at Powell is important to ME but useless to YOU. My cart dealer is there. I also often go to Sparr and rarely use my car. My cart has 7100 miles on it since I got here 1yr ago but I barely put 3000 on the car and that 3000 included multiple trips to Ft Lauderdale.

My "cart" has heat and A/C and power windows and Sirius XM so I use it often. [emoji1]

There are others as well but one man's importance is another man's useless.




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JimD215 02-27-2018 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tag460 (Post 1519005)
Depending where she is going using the golf cart paths this time of year is slow travel. Common sense she is allowed to travel on the roads, I would be utilizing the roads if my golf cart was street legal. What the difference when you get behind someone in a car that's driving very slow and there is no passing lane.

I agree if it is slow going use the road but nobody in eyesight in the cart lane. From what I read LSV’s May use the road and it appears you can use the cart lane if you stay within the 20 mph limit. I really don’t see anything in any rules that state an LSV cannot use the diamond cart path.


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