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billethkid 04-22-2018 10:45 AM

Tipping surprise!!!
 
We went to iHop for breakfast after golf yesterday....as we do almost every week.

On our table was the iHop copy of bill for previous customer.

When looking to see what it was I was shocked. A $42 total check......with a $2 tip. I could not believe my eyes. It surely was not for bad service as the waitress for the table is one we have had quite often. Excellent waitress.....maybe it is because she knows she gets a 20%+ from us, regularly.

I have heard a lot about the select group of lousy tippers in TV. My first real observation of the fact.

Now I understand the joke....do you know the difference between a villager and a canoe? Canoes tip!!!!!

Shame on the tight a$$e$ here!!

cchase 04-22-2018 10:57 AM

You know the old saying “Don’t judge to you know all the facts”

billethkid 04-22-2018 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cchase (Post 1535671)
You know the old saying “Don’t judge to you know all the facts”

Fact!!! The Villages has it's share of bad awful, cheap tippers....maybe more that it's share. Ask a server you know well enough to get their experience.

Mortal1 04-22-2018 11:12 AM

Fact! Tipping used to be about the quality of service...now you tip 20% no matter how the service because many people feel the wait staff are underpaid and deserve it no matter how bad the service. Fact! you keep tipping even when the service is poor then don't be surprised when you go out to eat and the service is crappy. Fact!

EdFNJ 04-22-2018 11:51 AM

Do not prejudge or ASSume. It is very possible that majority of the tip was left by credit card and someone in the group wanted to add a couple extra bucks in cash OR (as I have done) maybe someone in the group just had toast and coffee, paid $6 cash and left a $2 cash tip. Lot's of other possibilities rather than ASSuming a $2 tip was left on a $42+ tab. Somehow I highly doubt it even for a cheapskate tipper. That's a bit of a stretch.

Oh and as for Mr FACT! Yes, I do feel for the server who may be making $5 or $7/hr before tips and still leave a decent tip even if things weren't "great." Maybe they were having a bad day and were upset because they couldn't make a car payment. FACT! We're talking "Pancake House" here not fine dining at Ruth Cris Steak House.

Chi-Town 04-22-2018 01:40 PM

OP stated the facts clearly. Plain old cheap. If you want to see poor tipping in high speed check out the
the number of cheapskate while standing in line at one of the drink kiosks at the squares.

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graciegirl 04-22-2018 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1535664)
We went to iHop for breakfast after golf yesterday....as we do almost every week.

On our table was the iHop copy of bill for previous customer.

When looking to see what it was I was shocked. A $42 total check......with a $2 tip. I could not believe my eyes. It surely was not for bad service as the waitress for the table is one we have had quite often. Excellent waitress.....maybe it is because she knows she gets a 20%+ from us, regularly.

I have heard a lot about the select group of lousy tippers in TV. My first real observation of the fact.

Now I understand the joke....do you know the difference between a villager and a canoe? Canoes tip!!!!!

Shame on the tight a$$e$ here!!

I agree.

graciegirl 04-22-2018 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1535699)
Do not prejudge or ASSume. It is very possible that majority of the tip was left by credit card and someone in the group wanted to add a couple extra bucks in cash OR (as I have done) maybe someone in the group just had toast and coffee, paid $6 cash and left a $2 cash tip. Lot's of other possibilities rather than ASSuming a $2 tip was left on a $42+ tab. Somehow I highly doubt it even for a cheapskate tipper. That's a bit of a stretch.

Oh and as for Mr FACT! Yes, I do feel for the server who may be making $5 or $7/hr before tips and still leave a decent tip even if things weren't "great." Maybe they were having a bad day and were upset because they couldn't make a car payment. FACT! We're talking "Pancake House" here not fine dining at Ruth Cris Steak House.

I very much agree.

graciegirl 04-22-2018 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1535750)
OP stated the facts clearly. Plain old cheap. If you want to see poor tipping in high speed check out the
the number of cheapskate while standing in line at one of the drink kiosks at the squares.

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I agree CHi.

graciegirl 04-22-2018 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1535682)
Fact! Tipping used to be about the quality of service...now you tip 20% no matter how the service because many people feel the wait staff are underpaid and deserve it no matter how bad the service. Fact! you keep tipping even when the service is poor then don't be surprised when you go out to eat and the service is crappy. Fact!

You are right. They stand on their feet all day and carry heavy hot food.

Not everyone was born with the ability to be a doctor.

fw102807 04-22-2018 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1535777)
You are right. They stand on their feet all day and carry heavy hot food.

Not everyone was born with the ability to be a doctor.

Not everybody wants to be a doctor. I know many very intelligent women who waitressed as some point in their lives for one reason or another.

NotGolfer 04-22-2018 02:58 PM

We had brunch this a.m. after church at a local restaurant and I marveled at the service and how those waitresses seemed to bust their hinnies from the kitchen to the tables. I thought about the many posts of folks I've read in the past, who think that tipping is irrelevent to themselves. I would bet they never worked in ANY area of the service industry!!! I think it's a true lack of character truth be told and fodder for another conversation.

EdFNJ 04-22-2018 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1535750)
OP stated the facts clearly. Plain old cheap. If you want to see poor tipping in high speed check out the
the number of cheapskate while standing in line at one of the drink kiosks at the squares.

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Those kiosk servers aren't table waitresses running 5 plates of food and drink to 10 tables and aren't being paid $5 hr. While a tip might be a nice thing it's totally unnecessary. They are no different than the folks at Wendy's or McDonald's who work just as hard or probably harder. Do you tip them? Sorry, that's "apples and oranges." Should I tip them for squirting a hose with diet Coke or beer into a cup and handing it to me? If so why not tip the kids who work at McD or Wendy's? It's a nice thing to tip the kiosk servers your loose change but the amount shouldn't matter.

JSR22 04-22-2018 03:25 PM

Kiosk Tipping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1535784)
Those kiosk servers aren't table waitresses running 5 plates of food and drink to 10 tables and aren't being paid $5 hr. While a tip might be a nice thing it's totally unnecessary. They are no different than the folks at Wendy's or McDonald's who work just as hard or probably harder. Do you tip them? Sorry, that's "apples and oranges." Should I tip them for squirting a hose with diet Coke or beer into a cup and handing it to me? If so why not tip the kids who work at McD or Wendy's? It's a nice thing to tip the kiosk servers your loose change but the amount shouldn't matter.

I always give them $1.00 per drink.

Jdmiata 04-22-2018 03:44 PM

In my unscientific survey of bartenders and servers during the 11 years I have been here , Villagers in general are bad tippers.

graciegirl 04-22-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1535781)
Not everybody wants to be a doctor. I know many very intelligent women who waitressed as some point in their lives for one reason or another.

I do too. We are not all born equal, but we are all born valuable.

retiredguy123 04-22-2018 05:43 PM

Another tipping thread? Give me a break. Restaurant owners are laughing all the way to the bank. Why don't they just pay an honest wage? Because, they have convinced their customers that the customer should pay the employees' wages. Restaurant servers should be grateful for whatever tips their customers choose to provide. It's a volunteer payment, and, if the servers don't like it, they should get a better job.

Buffalo Jim 04-22-2018 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdmiata (Post 1535814)
In my unscientific survey of bartenders and servers during the 11 years I have been here , Villagers in general are bad tippers.

I agree from several years of observation here and speaking with the wait staff .

I often wonder just how much the " lite-tippers" save on an annual basis . Perhaps on average $100 to $150 per year ?

Wonder what they do with all of that extra cash ?

ColdNoMore 04-22-2018 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1535664)
We went to iHop for breakfast after golf yesterday....as we do almost every week.

On our table was the iHop copy of bill for previous customer.

When looking to see what it was I was shocked. A $42 total check......with a $2 tip. I could not believe my eyes. It surely was not for bad service as the waitress for the table is one we have had quite often. Excellent waitress.....maybe it is because she knows she gets a 20%+ from us, regularly.

I have heard a lot about the select group of lousy tippers in TV. My first real observation of the fact.

Now I understand the joke....do you know the difference between a villager and a canoe? Canoes tip!!!!!

:1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl:



Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1535664)
Shame on the tight a$$e$ here!!

Totally agree! :mad:

ColdNoMore 04-22-2018 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1535750)
OP stated the facts clearly. Plain old cheap. If you want to see poor tipping in high speed check out the number of cheapskate while standing in line at one of the drink kiosks at the squares.

Yep. :thumbup:


It's kinda funny (funny-sad), that every time one of these tipping threads come up you can usually tell by the posts those who are probably "cheapskates"...by how defensive they get. :D

ColdNoMore 04-22-2018 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1535781)
Not everybody wants to be a doctor. I know many very intelligent women who waitressed as some point in their lives for one reason or another.

Yep...I married one. :thumbup:

Two masters degrees and no student loans...by serving and bartending through school. :cool:

Chi-Town 04-22-2018 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1535784)
Those kiosk servers aren't table waitresses running 5 plates of food and drink to 10 tables and aren't being paid $5 hr. While a tip might be a nice thing it's totally unnecessary. They are no different than the folks at Wendy's or McDonald's who work just as hard or probably harder. Do you tip them? Sorry, that's "apples and oranges." Should I tip them for squirting a hose with diet Coke or beer into a cup and handing it to me? If so why not tip the kids who work at McD or Wendy's? It's a nice thing to tip the kiosk servers your loose change but the amount shouldn't matter.

I can hear Steve Buscemi as My Pink in Reservoir Dogs during the tipping scene.

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graciegirl 04-23-2018 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1535877)
Another tipping thread? Give me a break. Restaurant owners are laughing all the way to the bank. Why don't they just pay an honest wage? Because, they have convinced their customers that the customer should pay the employees' wages. Restaurant servers should be grateful for whatever tips their customers choose to provide. It's a volunteer payment, and, if the servers don't like it, they should get a better job.

That sounds so unrealistic and so mean on so many levels. I was gifted with two daughters with widely different abilities and skills. More extreme differences in abilities and skills than most people's children. It taught me so much about life in general. It just isn't a matter of cognitive ability or working hard in this life.

No matter how hard I tried, or how long I studied and practiced, I could NEVER be an Olympic skater.

Everyone should be honored for the work they do. There are those who cannot work and we, the rest of society pay taxes to see that they receive an income. There are those who scam that system. There are those who work at McDonalds all of their lives, not because they aspire to do so, but because that is the work they can do.

It is a fallacy to say that if all servers don't like it, they can find a better job. What IS a better job? Who says it is a better job? There are many of us who have had jobs like bartenders and servers in our lives. It is honest, decent work and it supports the lives of loved family.

Because at this time, servers are in a system that relies on tips, pay them a tip that you think your own granddaughter would deserve. And look at them in their eyes and thank them. They are working hard and they haven't chosen to be drug dealers that would make a LOT more MONEY,
Looking down on anyone is just plain not kind or nice.

Jdmiata 04-23-2018 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1535990)
That sounds so unrealistic and so mean on so many levels. I was gifted with two daughters with widely different abilities and skills. More extreme differences in abilities and skills than most people's children. It taught me so much about life in general. It just isn't a matter of cognitive ability or working hard in this life.

No matter how hard I tried, or how long I studied and practiced, I could NEVER be an Olympic skater.

Everyone should be honored for the work they do. There are those who cannot work and we, the rest of society pay taxes to see that they receive an income. There are those who scam that system. There are those who work at McDonalds all of their lives, not because they aspire to do so, but because that is the work they can do.

It is a fallacy to say that if all servers don't like it, they can find a better job. What IS a better job? Who says it is a better job? There are many of us who have had jobs like bartenders and servers in our lives. It is honest, decent work and it supports the lives of loved family.

Because at this time, servers are in a system that relies on tips, pay them a tip that you think your own granddaughter would deserve. And look at them in their eyes and thank them. They are working hard and they haven't chosen to be drug dealers that would make a LOT more MONEY,
Looking down on anyone is just plain not kind or nice.

Well said.

asianthree 04-23-2018 02:07 PM

Our youngest arrives next week. His masters degree was paid for by bartending. He manages 3 bar/ restaurants. The bar staff income is close to 6 figures. If the wait staff is excellent I have seen him tip 40%. This is his first visit, I am waiting to see what he thinks about TV restaurants, and wait staff here.

retiredguy123 04-23-2018 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1535990)
That sounds so unrealistic and so mean on so many levels. I was gifted with two daughters with widely different abilities and skills. More extreme differences in abilities and skills than most people's children. It taught me so much about life in general. It just isn't a matter of cognitive ability or working hard in this life.

No matter how hard I tried, or how long I studied and practiced, I could NEVER be an Olympic skater.

Everyone should be honored for the work they do. There are those who cannot work and we, the rest of society pay taxes to see that they receive an income. There are those who scam that system. There are those who work at McDonalds all of their lives, not because they aspire to do so, but because that is the work they can do.

It is a fallacy to say that if all servers don't like it, they can find a better job. What IS a better job? Who says it is a better job? There are many of us who have had jobs like bartenders and servers in our lives. It is honest, decent work and it supports the lives of loved family.

Because at this time, servers are in a system that relies on tips, pay them a tip that you think your own granddaughter would deserve. And look at them in their eyes and thank them. They are working hard and they haven't chosen to be drug dealers that would make a LOT more MONEY,
Looking down on anyone is just plain not kind or nice.

I disagree. What is "mean" is this thread that wants to criticize someone who leaves a tip that the OP thinks is not as much as it should be. A tip is a voluntary payment to the server based on the customer's opinion of the value of the service provided. That is the nature of the job the server has taken. No one has the right to dictate what the tip should be, except the customer. And, yes, if the server doesn't like the income the job provides, than they should find another job. Some people seem to want to shame, intimidate and dictate to people, and tell them how much "voluntary" tipping they should do. Tipping is not a mandatory charge.

Fredster 04-23-2018 03:14 PM

Personally I think the OP was a bit out of line posting about a copy of a check another person(s)
had left behind without knowing all the facts!
I believe most people tip what they feel is fair, and don’t have a need to impress others.
Someone posted that they could by their comments tell the cheap tippers.. .I don’t know about that
I do think threads like this give a forum to the braggarts.

2BNTV 04-23-2018 03:19 PM

Just remember folks that servers have families and everyone likes to eat and pay their bills. :smiley:

JUST SAYING.............

BTW - A man once said, "I like to pay my bills with a smile but unfortunately, they want money. LOL

ColdNoMore 04-23-2018 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1535942)
I can hear Steve Buscemi as My Pink in Reservoir Dogs during the tipping scene.

Yep.

The longer the thread gets, the more Buscemi's voice rings in my ears too.

Rapscallion St Croix 04-23-2018 03:47 PM

Tipping is as much a personal choice as is the decision to be a judgy-pants.

Chi-Town 04-23-2018 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1536280)
Yep.

The longer the thread gets, the more Buscemi's voice rings in my ears too.

Google Mr. Pink tipping and the YouTube link is right there. NSFW



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Kerry Azz 04-23-2018 04:15 PM

Fact!! Really
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1535699)
Do not prejudge or ASSume. It is very possible that majority of the tip was left by credit card and someone in the group wanted to add a couple extra bucks in cash OR (as I have done) maybe someone in the group just had toast and coffee, paid $6 cash and left a $2 cash tip. Lot's of other possibilities rather than ASSuming a $2 tip was left on a $42+ tab. Somehow I highly doubt it even for a cheapskate tipper. That's a bit of a stretch.

Oh and as for Mr FACT! Yes, I do feel for the server who may be making $5 or $7/hr before tips and still leave a decent tip even if things weren't "great." Maybe they were having a bad day and were upset because they couldn't make a car payment. FACT! We're talking "Pancake House" here not fine dining at Ruth Cris Steak House.

What’s the difference between Ruth Cris and Ihop. If you eat at a high end steakhouse your supposed to tip more? Cheap is cheap I see it at the square people order $9.50 in happy hour drinks and walk away without tipping. And if they do it’s very little. I hear it all the time from wait staff how terrible people here tip.

Kerry Azz 04-23-2018 04:20 PM

They go to ihop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1535878)
I agree from several years of observation here and speaking with the wait staff .

I often wonder just how much the " lite-tippers" save on an annual basis . Perhaps on average $100 to $150 per year ?

Wonder what they do with all of that extra cash ?

They take the family to IHOP

EdFNJ 04-23-2018 04:33 PM

I mostly agree. Point is the Town square bar ladies and men are neither of those 2 examples you gave and both of your examples bust their asses to work for tips.

Nothing wrong with tipping the Square ladies and men but they don't "work for tips" as your other 2 examples do and people who just toss their loose change (or nothing) into their plastic cups shouldn't be used as examples of "cheap tippers."

I generally end up tipping real RESTAURANT SERVERS closer to 25% but tipping the Square ladies and men is another story. Nothing wrong with doing it, just not necessary.

As for higher tips because the restaurant is "high price" that always bugs me because it really shouldn't matter. The service for a $50 3lb lobster entree is no different than for $15 haddock entree at the same table but unfortunately that's how the "screwy system" works.

Servers should be paid a flat wage.


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