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tomwed 04-28-2018 01:18 PM

So, What Is Sous Vide Cookin Anyway?
 
What Is Sous Vide, Anyway? | Bon Appetit

When I think of slow cooking, I think crock-pot. I thought I could not afford sous vide cooking.

The Anova Precision Cooker is the world’s top-selling sous vide machine. It’s amazingly easy to set up with outstanding results. If you have a pot, a ziplock bag, and a pan, you’ll cook the best food of your life. Period. $109

This is a game changer. You just set the temperature you want, stick it in the water in a bag, and forget about it. You can't overcook anything it holds it at the exact temp.

Has anyone cooked this way? the restaurants do

ColdNoMore 04-28-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1537914)
What Is Sous Vide, Anyway? | Bon Appetit

When I think of slow cooking, I think crock-pot. I thought I could not afford sous vide cooking.

The Anova Precision Cooker is the world’s top-selling sous vide machine. It’s amazingly easy to set up with outstanding results. If you have a pot, a ziplock bag, and a pan, you’ll cook the best food of your life. Period. $109

This is a game changer. You just set the temperature you want, stick it in the water in a bag, and forget about it. You can't overcook anything it holds it at the exact temp.


Has anyone cooked this way? the restaurants do

While it seems that this is probably the best way to cook vacuum-packed food, a big negative for me personally is...

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Since the water never goes past the desired temperature of doneness, the meat takes significantly longer to cook (A 12 oz. NY strip takes a little over two hours)...

:shrug:

jnieman 04-28-2018 01:49 PM

I checked these out. It's a big vat of water and you stick a large probe in it and hook it to the side of the vat. It brings the temperature up to what you want to cook your meat. You place your meat or dish in it (in a plastic bag) and it sits in there and maintains the temperature until it is done. I won one of these in a sweepstakes and sold it on Ebay. I could maybe see a restaurant using one that gets a lot of food in vacuum packed bags maybe but from what I read it takes quite a while to get the food up to temperature. I sold mine for $130. They sell for around $175 new for a name brand one. I just couldn't see myself using it for anything. Cooking a steak in one you still have to take it out of the bag and brown it on the grill. There are you tube videos on these if you'd like to see.

graciegirl 04-28-2018 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1537914)
What Is Sous Vide, Anyway? | Bon Appetit

When I think of slow cooking, I think crock-pot. I thought I could not afford sous vide cooking.

The Anova Precision Cooker is the world’s top-selling sous vide machine. It’s amazingly easy to set up with outstanding results. If you have a pot, a ziplock bag, and a pan, you’ll cook the best food of your life. Period. $109

This is a game changer. You just set the temperature you want, stick it in the water in a bag, and forget about it. You can't overcook anything it holds it at the exact temp.

Has anyone cooked this way? the restaurants do

Je n'est sais pas. Q'est ce c'est???? J'adore la Dutch oven a moi. Just a pot with a tight fitting lid that can go in the oven.........and transforms meats into luscious tenderness.

tomwed 04-28-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jnieman (Post 1537927)
I checked these out. It's a big vat of water and you stick a large probe in it and hook it to the side of the vat. It brings the temperature up to what you want to cook your meat. You place your meat or dish in it (in a plastic bag) and it sits in there and maintains the temperature until it is done. I won one of these in a sweepstakes and sold it on Ebay. I could maybe see a restaurant using one that gets a lot of food in vacuum packed bags maybe but from what I read it takes quite a while to get the food up to temperature. I sold mine for $130. They sell for around $175 new for a name brand one. I just couldn't see myself using it for anything. Cooking a steak in one you still have to take it out of the bag and brown it on the grill. There are you tube videos on these if you'd like to see.

listen to this
Sous vide basics with America’s Test Kitchen | The Splendid Table

My sons like to cook. They're too busy to brown meat and put together a crock pot in the morning. But with sous vite they can put 2 steaks in a bag on monday at 7pm and tuseday at 7pm they have a perfect steak or piece of salmon [no talapia] that needs to be browned a minute on both sides. virtually no cleanup---add a salad or nuke a potato. $110 is nothing for them compared to take out or going to a restaurant.
Suppose they are running late? it doesn't matter

tomwed 04-28-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1537943)
Je n'est sais pas. Q'est ce c'est???? J'adore la Dutch oven a moi. Just a pot with a tight fitting lid that can go in the oven.........and transforms meats into luscious tenderness.

mercy boucoup, silver plate [i got a D in french 1 and 2--they begged me, please don't take 3]

oo a' la fenetra? [in little conversations i always asked where the window is hoping it would make sense]

graciegirl 04-28-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1537947)
mercy boucoup, silver plate [i got a D in french 1 and 2--they begged me, please don't take 3]

oo a' la fenetra? [in little conversations i always asked where the window is hoping it would make sense]

It is always wise to know where the window is when cooking. You may have to throw the whole thing out.

tomwed 04-28-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1537950)
It is always wise to know where the window is when cooking. You may have to throw the whole thing out.

oui

l2ridehd 04-28-2018 03:00 PM

I have one, don't use it much. One time I was having about 20 people for dinner and was doing beef tenderloin and then cut into filet's. For this many it worked great. Cooked two tenderloins to 125 degrees (rare), cut into 2 inch filet's and then seared on a hot grill to provide everyone a filet cooked exactly as they wanted it.

But anything up to 10 I personally would prefer to oven roast it. Our son-in-law and daughter use it all the time. Because of kids and busy schedules, you can set it up in the AM and cook what ever your cooking 3, 4, 5, 6, or more hours and it will still come out the same.

tomwed 04-28-2018 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1537953)
I have one, don't use it much. One time I was having about 20 people for dinner and was doing beef tenderloin and then cut into filet's. For this many it worked great. Cooked two tenderloins to 125 degrees (rare), cut into 2 inch filet's and then seared on a hot grill to provide everyone a filet cooked exactly as they wanted it.

But anything up to 10 I personally would prefer to oven roast it. Our son-in-law and daughter use it all the time. Because of kids and busy schedules, you can set it up in the AM and cook what ever your cooking 3, 4, 5, 6, or more hours and it will still come out the same.

thank-you
Is that how they cook beef tenderloin in a restaurant?
My hunch was that the oven would dry out the meat and this would keep it moist. Is that not so?

The kicker is that there is a little work on the back end when my kids do have extra time.

Mikeod 04-28-2018 03:20 PM

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I have one that I wouldn’t be without. Put a steak in it. Don’t have to worry about how thick it is. Don’t even have to thaw it if it’s frozen. Set the desired finish temp, seal the bag in the vacuum sealer, and let it go. Got more to prepare for the meal or going to be out for a bit, no problem. It can stay in the bath for a few hours and won’t go beyond the temp you set. Finish in a cast iron pan red hot to create the sear and you’re done. This one done to 135 degrees in about an hour.

Ecuadog 04-28-2018 03:23 PM

I use my Anova occasionally. It's great if you want your steaks perfectly cooked. Of course, they get finished on the grill or in a cast iron pan to put a crust on the outside. Even a butane torch can be used with the grill or the pan. I have also used it warm a holiday ham. Putting a ham in the oven to warm tends to dry it out. Especially if you're not sure when you'll finally get to serve.

There are a lot of things that it can be used for.

Kenswing 04-28-2018 03:28 PM

Here's an entire YouTube channel about it.. Sous Vide Everything
- YouTube

tomwed 04-28-2018 03:47 PM

thank-you everyone--i watched a show on seasoning. Sous Vide SEASONING EXPERIMENT - Should you SALT BEFORE OR AFTER Sous Vide? - YouTube The guy has his own little test kitchen going on.
He doesn't grill, he uses a propane torch.

You can do veggies too. Someone said frozen meat too. I guess the vacuum seal makes that safe.

What about less expensive cuts of meat?

What about the frozen salmon that comes in it's own seal package?

asianthree 04-28-2018 04:03 PM

I have been using one for 3 years. I use at least 3 times a week. Yes you can start a steak and as long as the water does not get too low it will stay at that temp for hours. High end restaurants use them all the time.

I have done Eggs Benedict for 2 or 20, all while sitting with my guests. Eggs, ham, and sauce done all at the same time. Hollandaise sauce never separate it’s perfect every time. I can throw something in the SV, go to work for nine hours and come back with perfectly cooked food

For any protein you can use a torch or throw in a cast iron for a less than a minute to sear. I took lessons at a high end steakhouse and got hooked.

It is not boil in a bag. Water stays at the temp you set until you turn it off.

asianthree 04-28-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1537973)
thank-you everyone--i watched a show on seasoning. Sous Vide SEASONING EXPERIMENT - Should you SALT BEFORE OR AFTER Sous Vide? - YouTube The guy has his own little test kitchen going on.
He doesn't grill, he uses a propane torch.

You can do veggies too. Someone said frozen meat too. I guess the vacuum seal makes that safe.

What about less expensive cuts of meat?

What about the frozen salmon that comes in it's own seal package?

Yes you can use a sealed package, however if there is no seasoning you lose they benefit of it infusing in the food. But in a pinch I have thrown in a frozen salmon and then put on blackened seasoning on it when I seared it. I have had dinner party for 12 starting it in the morning and spent 10 minutes searing and plating. A steak cooked perfectly every time

tomwed 04-28-2018 04:19 PM

what to buy?

Have you ever tried wirecutter for reviews?
The Best Sous Vide Machine and Gear: Reviews by Wirecutter | A New York Times Company

graciegirl 04-28-2018 06:16 PM

This has been very educational. I am going to see what Tom buys.

tomwed 04-28-2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1538008)
This has been very educational. I am going to see what Tom buys.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if my younger son orders 1 tonight. My older son, Tom jr. and I have been nick-named "Look and Wait." sooooooooo

Mikeod 04-28-2018 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1537981)
Yes you can use a sealed package, however if there is no seasoning you lose they benefit of it infusing in the food. But in a pinch I have thrown in a frozen salmon and then put on blackened seasoning on it when I seared it. I have had dinner party for 12 starting it in the morning and spent 10 minutes searing and plating. A steak cooked perfectly every time

We’ve got a Foodsaver vacuum system, so we can open the bag, add seasonings, and seal it up again before putting it in the bath. I tried some boneless short ribs and the suggestion was to let them go 48-72 hours. I took them out at 48 and they were very good with a Guinness glaze. But they probably would have been better at 72 hours. I set the water bath in the garage to avoid taking up counter space. Important to use a cover to reduce water loss and help the heater keep the temp up.

CFrance 04-29-2018 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1537943)
Je n'est sais pas. Q'est ce c'est???? J'adore la Dutch oven a moi. Just a pot with a tight fitting lid that can go in the oven.........and transforms meats into luscious tenderness.

Ah, Je pense que tu as fait une petite erreur. Sacre Bleu! Je ne sais pas.:wave:

Bonne journée!

CFrance 04-29-2018 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1537985)
what to buy?

Have you ever tried wirecutter for reviews?
The Best Sous Vide Machine and Gear: Reviews by Wirecutter | A New York Times Company

I have generally been pleased with wirecutter's recommendations. Of course, I never bought their remommended brand and a different brand of the same item for comparison sake. But I've always liked what I've bought based on their recommendations.

graciegirl 04-29-2018 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1538056)
Ah, Je pense que tu as fait une petite erreur. Sacre Bleu! Je ne sais pas.:wave:

Bonne journée!

I am delighted C, it was just a small error. It has been sixty years since my French teacher frowned at me when I said Je suis enceinte instead of Je suis enchante.

tomwed 04-29-2018 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1538056)
Ah, Je pense que tu as fait une petite erreur. Sacre Bleu! Je ne sais pas.:wave:

Bonne journée!

Sacre Bleu! means damn it---i say it to be silly and impersonate someone from france but i never knew what it meant--they say that in the movies or cartoons

graciegirl 04-29-2018 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1538075)
Sacre Bleu! means damn it---i say it to be silly and impersonate someone from france but i never knew what it meant--they say that in the movies or cartoons

OMG. I never knew CFrance cussed. I am going to see about having Crosby removed and have him come to live with us.

CFrance 04-29-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1538098)
OMG. I never knew CFrance cussed. I am going to see about having Crosby removed and have him come to live with us.

Horreurs! (It's better than some others...):22yikes:
je suis vraiment désolée.

(But he very much loooooves cats!)

CFrance 04-29-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1538074)
I am delighted C, it was just a small error. It has been sixty years since my French teacher frowned at me when I said Je suis enceinte instead of Je suis enchante.

And my husband was told to stop the waitress Je suis plein for I'm full, because it's slang for I'm pregnant.

CFrance 04-29-2018 08:04 AM

Back on topic, The Splendid Table podcast mentioned all sorts of food beside meat that the test team is experimenting with via sous vide. I'd love to know what else you can cook in it. I'm watching Sous Vide Everything now but haven't gotten past the beef dry aging thing.

tomwed 04-29-2018 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1538107)
Back on topic, The Splendid Table podcast mentioned all sorts of food beside meat that the test team is experimenting with via sous vide. I'd love to know what else you can cook in it. I'm watching Sous Vide Everything now but haven't gotten past the beef dry aging thing.

How about making your own cheese?

Bambi 04-29-2018 08:49 AM

I love my sous vide. Bought it on line for $59.00. Sams and Target sell it. I think Walmart has them.
Some things I have cooked.
“Starbucks egg bites”. Need 12 4oz canning jars. Thoroughly blend a dozen eggs with equal ucottage cheese.
Spray jars with non stick, place cooked bacon and cheese in jars. Pour egg mixture into jars. Seal and sous vide 35min. @ 165°. Creamy good. Open jars Invert food onto plate.
Lasts a week in fridge or long time in freezer. Microwave 30 sec. to reheat. Great for house guests.
Steak-love it rare. May season before or after. Vacuum pack and set sous vide for desired done ness. I use 131°s for 2 hours. Finish a minute or two in iron pan. Steak is edge to edge rare. No grey gradient towards center before rare inner strip like conventional cooking. Steaks seen in TV commercials are done this way-obvious.
Asparagus cooks perfect every time. Not soggy and not overly hard.
Ribs are a min 24 hour cook. Cover water with ping pong balls to prevent evaporation. Finish in a grill for a couple minutes. May also torch.
Best hamburger I have ever had was from sous vide. Finished by a quick char on ripping hot iron pan.
My brother sous vides chicken and finishes with torch.
So easy. Had a dinner party, veggies, meats were in water when guests arrived. Since food is held at exact temperature, there was no rush for dinner and worry about timing. Chared steaks one to two minutes, opened bags and poured in serving dishes. Veggies were buttered pre sous vide.
So easy, I was laughing.
Food done at same time. One cast iron fry pan to wash. Everyone’s steak was done exactly to their preference.
Can cook in old igloo cooler, Rubbermaid container or large pot.
Lots of recipes on the internet. Food comes out perfect.

tomwed 04-29-2018 09:10 AM

This chef sorts out some of the hype. I'll look for more of her shows.

photo1902 04-29-2018 09:13 AM

I use mine frequently. Its a great way of cooking chicken and steak, without drying it out. I throw them on the grill, briefly, to get a little color on the meat.

CFrance 04-29-2018 09:20 AM

I jut wasted most of a rainy afternoon watching Sous Vide Everything. Cheesecake, flan, all kinds of boiled eggs, fried breaded eggs, dry-ageing steak, cooking steak, custard mix for ice cream. And I'm not done. If you like to watch cooking videos, it's a fun site.

tomwed 04-29-2018 10:01 AM

But did you see this? Beer?

graciegirl 04-29-2018 12:08 PM

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asianthree 04-29-2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1538019)
We’ve got a Foodsaver vacuum system, so we can open the bag, add seasonings, and seal it up again before putting it in the bath. I tried some boneless short ribs and the suggestion was to let them go 48-72 hours. I took them out at 48 and they were very good with a Guinness glaze. But they probably would have been better at 72 hours. I set the water bath in the garage to avoid taking up counter space. Important to use a cover to reduce water loss and help the heater keep the temp up.

I did a prime rib for Christmas. I don’t remember how long, it was for 10 people, but took it to mid rare. My vacuum sealer does not do large enough bags. If I need very oversized bags like for Prime rib, I order bags on line. My SV is commercial, my youngest ordered from the supplier where he works. I use different size bins, that you can by at restaurant supply store.


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