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Nazdad 08-11-2018 12:21 PM

Historic section
 
We are looking at modular homes in this section and were wondering if anyone can advise about what to look for. My wife is worried about high wind damage and I have seen gray pipes replaced on some sale adds any thing would be appreciated

NotGolfer 08-11-2018 01:48 PM

Many who live there...seem to love it. But that said, I personally wouldn't live in one here in FL (or anywhere) as they do seem to be damaged more easily in bad storms. IF you're looking...speak to the neighbors and ask them what their feelings (good and bad) are. When Irma hit last Fall though---they were without power and some got flooded (near the ponds). We rarely get hurricanes in Central FL but they do happen.

villagetinker 08-11-2018 02:58 PM

Check on the age of the mobile/modular home, my stepson has one (not in TV), but these have some unique items in their construction. We evacuate him during high wings, hurricane, or tornado warnings. Also, IMHO, have a detailed building inspection done, you do not want to buy one that will be in need of repair in the near future.
As mentioned above, be sure to talk to any potential neighbors about the effects of IRMA, there were flooded roads in that area.
Hope this helps.

EdFNJ 08-11-2018 03:19 PM

The Villages are tearing down the older and less cared for manufactured homes as fast as they can get there hands on them making the area even more beautiful. Some of the manufactured homes look(ed) terrible but there are some amazingly beautiful manufactured homes there and it is easy to find one relatively inexpensive. We spent a month renting there before moving to a different area here in TV but we really loved it. The people "seemed" on average older and also "seemed" a lot more friendlier (both personal opinions). There are no bonds there even on new construction which is a good thing. We did find after speaking to a number of insurance agents that getting hurricane insurance and even homeowners insurance on the manufactured homes is more expensive and that many companies won't even write it due to how they are constructed (mainly the roof) and because they are considered mobile homes. After the hurricane the area was without power for (IIRC) around 2 weeks probably because the main power trunk lines serving the area were above ground. There was some wind damage but not nearly as extensive as we thought it would be.

We actually were a signature away from buying a newly built 2/2 home there except the woman who owned it (for 2 months) wanted almost 15% more than she paid for it which we thought was not permitted for the first year but it is under certain conditions. Since we were under a time constraint we looked elsewhere and ended up buying in another Village. If you are ready to buy there you won't be sorry just look all around where you want to buy for condition of homes around you and look into insurance costs. See how many homes around you are rentals and empty for 1/2 the year. We were also concerned about the "gray pipe issue" but were told most every home had it taken care of. You won't be sorry for buying there and if you do your "due diligence" and ignore some of the BS the Villages Sales Agents tell you. If you do find a place BEFORE buying check with local insurance agents and see what kind of coverage you can get and how expensive it is.

All that being said, one of our friends just (1 1/2 yrs ago) had a brand new manufactured home rolled onto their property and since it was "built" under all the new Florida specs they had some better luck with insurance. It replaced a home their mother owned that was totally infested by mold and couldn't be saved and is REALLY nice and quite large.

eweissenbach 08-11-2018 03:21 PM

Most have been around for thirty to forty years so apparently they are not as vulnerable as some might think. I have heard that they are hard, and expensive, to insure. You should check with an insurance agent prior to committing. In addition to everything else the resale appreciation will likely be much less than a home or villa. If you are satisfied it is the right thing for you -- enjoy, you will be able to enjoy the same lifestyle as someone in a premier home.

eweissenbach 08-11-2018 03:26 PM

Also if budget is the concern, and you don't care about the TV amenities, you should look at Water Oak, Spruce Creek South, Continental Country Club and other similar nearby communities. You can still enjoy the squares, the restaurants, and the shopping.

Nucky 08-11-2018 08:44 PM

The other communities mentioned have strong points no doubt but the big thing other than the obvious attractions to The Villages that we have going for us is we own our property, I like that. It changes a Mobile Home to Real Estate. You can get a Reverse Mortgage down the line if needed here but not at the other communities. I don’t like the idea of registration being needed on my home like the other places. The others are cheaper going in but the monthly cost is very high. Check out the specific’s and see if that way works for you.

Insurance wise, no problems here. Since your only insuring the home and not the property your cost will run between $700 and $2000 depending on your coverage and deductibles. When you factor in the tax’s and the insurance cost our opinion is it works.

The roughest part for us was before and during and after Irma. We are prepared better now in every way. Good luck to you OP. It’s been good for us so far other than the Electrical Outage after the storm. All is forgiven as long as it doesn’t happen for the exact reason again. Duke Energy is our power company and did their best afterwards I believe.

njbchbum 08-11-2018 09:19 PM

Well maintained manufactured home is easy to find on the historic side - as are some not so well maintained! ;) Best ins company with good coverage and affordable cost for manufactured home - All In One insurance, Lady Lake [www dot all in one ins dot com] 526 N HWY 27/441, Lady Lake, FL 32159, allinwon@bellsouth.net 352-674-9015 877-838-3417 (Toll-Free Number) Most important concern is making sure the tie down system is up-to-date and floors have not gone spongy. That lost power after Irma was because of a problem with the central station that feeds Lady Lake.

Best features of the historic side besides the neighbors...no traffic, no additional development other than the new gentrified site built homes, mature landscaping, convenience to shopping and medical offices and restaurants [other than TV country clubs], no traffic, easily navigated roads for walking and biking, neighbors who won't complain because you have statutes/flags/plastic flowers in your yard, neighbors who will flock to your new neighbor meet n greet driveway party and will bring their own chair and liquid refreshment, the only brick and mortar post office IN the Villages as well as close proximity to the main Lady Lake P.O., golf cart accessible gas station, no traffic, convenient golf path cart accessibility to lowes/aldi/walmart/cracker barrel/bealls/etc, 3 golf courses, reg'l rec center w/family pool and 2 adult pools that stay open later than other pools and one that has a hot tub and one with a lift chair, cell phone coverage is plentiful and did I mention no traffic? If you prefer traffic, congestion driving on roads with cars and carts, and having shopping and medical offices further from home - another Village might better suit your needs.

The historic side is more like the legacy side now since many of the original owners have passed and willed their property to heirs or their homes have been sold to younger folks. And resale difficulty? lol You're looking there - aren't you? ;) And some of those other communities - homeowners don't own the land their home is situated on - they pay additional rent for the pad the home sits on...Water Oak for sure.

Please know that I am not affiliated with the developer! lol We have only been snowbirds for 10 years - on the historic side - and would not live anywhere else...even if we were permanent residents! Feel free to private message me if you want to discuss further.

Fraugoofy 08-12-2018 08:17 AM

If you are set on the Historic Side, you could try looking for a new built home. They look really nice and have bigger yards if you are into that. Best of luck in your search!!
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Originally Posted by Nazdad (Post 1571042)
We are looking at modular homes in this section and were wondering if anyone can advise about what to look for. My wife is worried about high wind damage and I have seen gray pipes replaced on some sale adds any thing would be appreciated

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OldManTime 08-12-2018 08:27 AM

There are homes in The Historic side that are stick built, ,there are many, I have one!

Fredman 08-12-2018 10:02 AM

You won’t get full coverage on a modular home. For example if u pay $150k u won’t be able to get that amount in coverage. The insurance co will discount the coverage depending on the age of the unit. So be sure to check what coverage is available before buying

BoatRatKat 08-12-2018 11:15 AM

My folks lived in the Historic section for many years in a modular home and loved it. That is until one of the big hurricanes came through (I think it was 2005). They thought the house was going to lift off and fly away with them in it. They sold right after that and moved to a villa in the newer section.

Nazdad 08-15-2018 09:31 PM

Thanks to all how replied information will come in handy

graciegirl 08-16-2018 06:29 AM

Several friends live on the historic side. One of the most beautifully decorated homes we have ever been in and assuredly the best maintained is owned by one of them. They enjoy the area very much.

dewilson58 08-16-2018 06:47 AM

Given our ages, aren't we all living in the historic side.

Mama C 08-16-2018 09:24 AM

Those homes have withstood many storms and are still in good shape.......

Mama C 08-16-2018 09:27 AM

There are a lot of amenities available to The Villages residents that you cannot see and/or do if you live outside of here. The shopping and squares are just a tiny part of what makes up The Villages.........

Chi-Town 08-16-2018 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1572373)
Given our ages, aren't we all living in the historic side.

Funny and true. [emoji6]

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Nucky 08-16-2018 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1572373)
Given our ages, aren't we all living in the historic side.

It has been Renamed......The Hysterical Section! :popcorn:

Proud to live there. You have a great point Mr. Wilson.

Nucky 08-16-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1572371)
Several friends live on the historic side. One of the most beautifully decorated homes we have ever been in and assuredly the best maintained is owned by one of them. They enjoy the area very much.

Thanks Mrs Gracie, the value just doubled, I love it. Some are judged by the outside. Never judge a book by its cover. :ohdear:

Just kidding I know who it is. Lol.

Chatbrat 08-16-2018 10:25 AM

IMHO-do not buy any manufactured home that was built before 95'--HUD came out with new specs after hurricane Andrew for manufactured homes--they learned a lot from Andrew

Abby10 08-16-2018 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1572410)
It has been Renamed......The Hysterical Section! :popcorn:

Only since you moved there......:1rotfl:

UpNorth 08-16-2018 11:43 AM

With all the new development going on down South, the Spanish Springs area is now the "Historic Side". Orange Blossom Hills is now the "Prehistoric Side". :icon_wink:

2BNTV 08-16-2018 03:01 PM

Years ago, someone asked a question about the prehistoric side with zcaveman in the same sentence.

I thought it was hysterical. :D

RIP - Z........

EviesGP 08-19-2018 08:09 AM

Historic section(can one replace/rebuild)?
 
On this topic, what are the restrictions(if any) on a new owner replacing or rebuilding on the site? Whether it's another mobile home, or a stick build? Thanks.

Dan9871 08-19-2018 08:30 AM

The developer is already buying up manufactured home/lots in the Historic Section and putting up stick/block homes. The covenants in the Historic Section are much less restricting than in the rest of The Villages so it's would probably be ok for you do that... but do a lot of checking of the covenants on the you home you consider buying before you commit. You might have to buy two adjacent lots to put up a conventional house.

njbchbum 08-19-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan9871 (Post 1573197)
snipped You might have to buy two adjacent lots to put up a conventional house.

Now why 'might' someone have to do that? Did the developer? - not on any new houses that I have seen there. The lots on the historic side are larger than in other Villages to begin with!

How big is a 'conventional' house?


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