Tee Times
 

We do not golf very often but my husband tried to get a tee time last week for our guest and 2 neighbors and was denied.
Another neighbor just told us he is trying to get a tee time next week for himself and his guest and is also unable to get a single tee time.

Both requests were for any time and any course.

Some one mentioned that if you have a guest your request is moved to the bottom of the list.
Is this a rumor, or policy?

Hi Whalen,

If I understand the point system correctly (very questionable), it matter whether a tee time request includes guests.

Here's a link to the brochure explaining the point system:

http://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-...heVillages.pdf

Hope it helps.

This is the write up on the HOW they assign tee times.

http://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-...heVillages.pdf

I am assuming you are talking executive courses, as you can ALWAYS get a tee time at Palmer even without a request ;).

When you read the document you can see that guest does lower your chances a bit for sure, but no times is surprising......

My husband and our neighbor understand the points system relatively well.
No times at all does seem unusual.
Could it be that the system is a bit over crowded at this time and guests are lowering the average even more?
Just curious.

Maybe your neibours had a few more points against them than your husband.
Also, asking for a tee time for 4 might be a little harder than asking for a tee time for just two

My ladies' foursome has been denied two out of the last three Mondays. We ask for a large time frame and any executive course. I've personally been denied a single time for three days in a row!

Its snowbird time with tee times at a premium. If you add a guest in your group it puts you all the way down to the bottom plain and simple.

At this time of year dont put in a guest until you get a tee time for your residents group first, and as soon as a time is given quickly add the guest if a spot is available. If its not then they wont be playing with you.

Late Afternoon
 

Last night I woke up about 2:00AM and realized I had forgotten to request a tee time for Wed. So I looked at open tee times. Every course was available for foursomes at 4:02 and beyond. Still time as it gets dark about 6:00.

This phenomena will go on until May when the seasonal visitors and the renters return to their other homes. There are only so many tee times and so many courses. Supply and demand meet their limits.

I just went in and checked open tee times at executive courses for tomorrow monday the 25th.I put in myself and 3 guests and this is what it came up with:


Available Tee Times for Monday, 1/25/2010 , by Play Time.

Select Course/Hole Time Number Available Course Format
Select
Heron,
hole 1 07:29 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Walnut Grove,
hole 1 07:47 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 04:47 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Mira Mesa,
hole 1 04:47 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
El Diablo,
hole 1 04:47 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Hill Top,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Chula Vista,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Mira Mesa,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
De La Vista,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
El Diablo,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Saddlebrook,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Hawkes Bay,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Walnut Grove,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Amberwood,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Belmont,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Pelican,
hole 1 04:56 4
Straight-9 holes

Check out open tee times this seems to be the way to go!!

I am talking about executive courses....

I was never aware of folks not getting tee times as this has never happened to me (third year). Thinking about it I suspect it is because when we play executives we do not have a guest and the most we play the executives is twice a week.

If I understand the system right, a request for an executive course tee time (no guests) goes in front of any request that has a guest (placement points) no matter how frequently you have played (reservation points). Since we only play once or twice a week we probably have less reservation points than the average request (with no guests), so we always get a time (so far ;))

I am curious, do folks that do not have guests in the group ever get denied a reasonable tee time for an executive course? Can you guess/remember how many reservation points you have when that happens?

By reasonable I mean, you have included enough courses and a wide enough time.....

I put a request in Sun for Thurs and was awarded Churchill at 1:11. Just about the top course I requested and pretty close to optimal time.

2 of us had 3 points; 1 had no points; the other had one or two points. All are residents.

Haven't been denied yet. So, I'm guessing the guest really cost you.

Lifestyle Preview Tee Times
 

Don't forget that when requesting tee times on courses that are south of Rt. 466, a number of prime tee times ( usually between 10 and 11) are allocated for lifestyle preview. During this time of year, if the creekside landing homes are full, they could be using a LOT of tee times. If you check first thing in the morning, you will find that most available tee times for the last scheduled day are north of Rt. 466, where the developer is limited to the number of tee times that the Lifestyle program can use.

It does concern me that even with the opening of the new courses, tee times are very tight AND the vast majority of the homes around the new courses haven't been built as yet. There is probably about 2 1/2 villages to be built there. I believe that as we reach final build out in a couple of years, tee times are going to be even tighter than they are now.

I do requests for 28 golfers every Thursday. I have not been denied in the past. Last week I put in 1 guest and our time was denied. I called the tee time office to find out the reason. I was told the system first assignes times to residents with the least points. Then other residents with more points and so on. Then residents with guests. Since my request included a guest and I needed a large block of tee times, by the time they got to me all the times were gone. I asked how to avoid being denied and was told;

1. Don't include guests this time of year.
2. Put as large a window of time as possible.
3. Request as many courses as you can.
4. Consider spliting the group in half.

I did all of these things this week and was successful. We are playing on 2 courses 16 at one course and 12 at another. We meet for lunch after at one of the clubs.:beer3:

I also went on line Monday to see if I could get a foursome out on Tuesday. There were a total of 24 tee times available. This was at all the executives. All the times were before 7:45 or after 4. Snowbirds do make a difference but planning can make things work.

It's a little disappointing
 

to learn that you cannot get a tee time if you have a guest.

Bosoxfan did you see only 2 times south of 466, Belmont and Pelican.

A resident may be disappointed if he/she was passed over in favor of a guest.

I agree with that
 

however I don't think it's unreasonable to have a guest a few times a year.

May, June, July, August

I agree. I was not suggesting otherwise. I am suggesting accommodating every resident before guests.

I am a year round resident. I play all of the golf I want. It is fairly easy to accommodate guests during times other than the mid winter but therein lies the problem. We have owner/residents who are only here for that part of the year. They pay their amenity fees year round. I would not like to think they are losing an opportunity to play golf as a result of accommodating a guest.

for requests with guests, the guest(s) should be assigned a reasonable number of points and be in the same pool with all other requests IMO...gn

Actually 3 Heron is there early.I live south of 466 and I have no problem playing "any" course .You can play everyday even with guests on the executive courses.Just look up to 3 days before you want to play at the open tee times .There are plenty if you're flexible and not picky about which course you play.:ohdear:

bosox, what times are available for 2 people in the three day look?....gn

Here's what's out there for tomorrow:
elect Course/Hole Time Number Available Course Format
Select
Chula Vista,
hole 1 07:29 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Oakleigh,
hole 1 07:56 2
Straight-9 holes
Select
Briarwood,
hole 1 04:56 2
Straight-9 holes
Select
Oakleigh,
hole 1 04:56 2
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 05:03 2
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 05:12 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 05:21 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 05:30 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 05:39 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 05:48 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 05:57 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 06:06 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 06:15 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 06:24 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 06:33 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 06:42 4
Straight-9 holes
Select
Silver Lake,
hole 1 06:51 4
Straight-9 holes

thanks for the reply bosox...gn

Viewed the DVd from TV and all activities available. However, read how difficult it could be to get a tee time during winter months and curious if all activities/clubs are
saturated because of the 80 M plus residents.

Well, we aren't there now, and maybe this year really is different. During the winter months when we are there, we play pretty much every day. Usually it is just 2 of us and we are flexible about course and time, so we haven't had any trouble. Even when friends visit I haven't had trouble. Maybe this year really is different, but I've heard the same complaints before and not experienced them.

I've tried for 3 weeks to get a Sunday reservation 7 days in advance for a 4-some (1 is not priority golf)on Yankee Clipper and have been shut out each time. Last week I got at 2 am on Sunday to sched the reservation 7 days out. Checked this am--- got Bacall :-(( Wonder if it's because one is not priority?

My understanding is that Priority Membership gives you no advantage on booking a tee tim on the Executive courses. I got that out of attending Good Golf School.

Very frustrating! Guess that is the advantage we have in not being choosy. Hope you et Yankee Clipper soon.

I would guess there are a lot of people trying to get on Yankee Clipper since it is now playing as an 18 hole course.More competition = less chance of playing.

It is common knowledge among employees of GMS, the Golf Management System, that the demand for tee times far exceed the available course openings. And more important, it is not expected to get any better, any time soon.

Priority
 

only applies to Championship courses.

Then why are there over 50 tee times open for Saturday & Sunday this week.Out of curiosity I put in for a foursome on these days and I got over 50 open tee times left for these days.It's just that people are being picky about where they play:cryin2:

Bosoxfan, you are right on target.

Army Guy

I would agree that your statement is correct to some degree. But then please tell me how the following fits.

My group put in a request for Tuesday. Our average exec points was 1.8 and we had a five hour window (preferred time right in the middle) with 20 courses selected. We got course #18 with a tee time 15 minutes before our latest time.
Last week the same group had an average of 3 exec points with the same selection criteria and got shut out on Wed and Thurs.

Are we being to picky?

Several things could have happened.

A similar request or requests to yours had points less than 1.8.
A similar request or requests to yours had priority golfers. You did not specify your priority status.
A similar request or requests to yours had two golfers rather than four.

The wording of your post makes me think: You do know that the fewer points you have the better your chances are to get a tee time right? I say that because of your "3 exec points" comment.

It's tough I know. In the winter months there are fewer holes available than people attempting to hit a ball into one.

Priority only applies for the championship courses and has no bearing on the executives.

No guests? Your group is 4? I must say, I have never had that happen to me with no guests.... yet anyway ;). Another thought, Tuesday is Mens day, could your selections have been competing with that?

Just curious is all, as I do not on the surface think your request is too picky.

On another thread you stated you were thinking of moving into Bison Valley. Assuming you are not a resident of TV, how do you know so much about the tee time point system?