lots of rollover accidents in TV
 

There have been several rollover accidents in the past year-it appears these small SUV 's that are very popular are quite prone to rolling over

My dealer gave me a service loaner-a Mercedes GLE, the car was so rolley poley I got it exchanged the next day-would not take much for that car to get knocked over

Yesterday's accident between a small Cadillac suv and a BMW suv resulted in the Cadillac being knocked over

SUVs need to be driven with an extra degree of caution because of the rollover possibility. Thats not going to happen given the poor driving abilities of many here.

I need coffee right away. This is going to be interesting. Will it head toward blaming old people, geographic areas, or even the p word?

We have a Chrysler Pacifica. Farm kids where I'm from started driving early. We are big on traffic rules. I have always thought skill and caution was key in trying to avoid accidents. BUT if you hit a big old car hard enough it's gonna do bad things. I wonder how you feel a car is "roley-poley".

Next...…….

Define "lots"...I've a sneaking suspicion that it's a very tiny percentage and a mountain is being made out of a mole hill...

I agree. Yesterday, in the national news, I noticed the same thing happening. A LOT of glittering generalities, leaping to conclusions, opinion without facts. Oh gosh. Better NOT change the subject.

Small SUV/Crossovers seem very popular here. Would be interesting to know how TV's stacks up against anywhere outside the bubble with respect to small SUV's per capita. I know one of the first things we did after getting settled in was to go trade in our larger SUV for a smaller one that is easier to get in and out of the garage and easier to navigate around the area. But it doesn't take an engineer to realize that a vehicle that sits up higher than a car, with a wheelbase as short or shorter than a car, is going to be more prone to rollover. However, they typically don't rollover on their own with normal driving. That generally requires additional outside force such as another vehicle/object hitting it at a certain speed and angle. I doubt these things are just rolling over on their own due to a person's age or relative driving ability.

We have a Mercedes GLA (crossover SUV). It sits a bit higher than a sedan, but not nearly high as a true 4WD SUV. We feel very safe in it and believe the Crossover or an SUV is much more survivable if hit by a large vehicle.

A bit off subject - Would rather be in ANY vehicle in a rollover compared to a rollover golf cart, even if wearing seat belts..

A link to a Consumer Reports article re rollovers>


Car Rollover 101 - Consumer Reports

Our driver education instructor always said " It takes hundreds of nuts to put an automobile together, it only takes one to scatter it all over the road".

They all tend to rollover easily while texting and driving.

This was my first thought.

We are a community of 150,000 residents with far more than that traveling through the Villages on our main roads.

:mornincoffee: I'll join you with that one Gracie!! Accidents happen like that due to folks not paying attention, taking risks and more.

Years ago in NM a large family of 9 from the town where I lived was on an interstate in a Suburban. An idiot in a Camaro doing 95 sideswiped them, causing the Suburban with its high center of mass to roll over. If I recall correctly 7 of the 9 were killed. One parent and one child survived. Unfortunately, the camaro driver survived.

Each vehicles has its own characteristics and performance envelope. One makes his choices and takes his chances.

About two years ago, friend and his wife were both killed in a KIA Soul, should have opened my mouth and maybe they would be alive

Some cars are inherently unsafe and they are more unsafe for senior citizens--they're too big and they do not fit a senior citizens driving abilities

We can't react quickly enough if something goes wrong-thats why we buy cars that have safety features that takes this out of the driving equation

Small SUVs and Crossovers are popular everywhere. They are the biggest selling category of cars in the US.

I have a Lexus RX and have never come close to rolling over and I doubt that I ever will.

Does anyone think that the safety factor of driving a larger heavier vehicle offsets the possibility of a rollover?

I agree if you keep your eyes on the road you have less of a tendency of making a left turn in front of someone going at least 45 mph. Most cars would roll over too in the same set of circumstances.

I've been trying to teach my truck to rollover for the last two years. So far all it can do is sit and speak.

I will go for the heavier vehicle most of the time, especially if it is designed to collapse on severe impact around a strongly built and protective passenger compartment. Mercedes and Volvo come to mind.

In the last 15 years I have driven a Cayenne, a Touareg and an X5. I have never come close to rolling over but if side swiped by a low slung vehicle, I don’t know...

If you check out vehicles that roll over some big SUV's and pickup trucks are the worst offenders--the higher the center of gravity-the higher the odds

Does it double-bark?

Nothing new here.

Next.
(not quite yet, Nucky brought me back)

We have a Transit Connect Van in Florida and a H2 Hummer in N.J. I feel equally safe in both vehicles.

Our car of choice even though I’m a big guy is a Mini Cooper. Fun to drive, reasonable and SAFE.

My son has been after the Hummer since 2004, we just gave it to him. 8 miles per gallon and only 62,000 miles. It was never my favorite because it had a crummy interior but fun in the snow.

I will take my chances in any little car or SUV, you never know when it’s your time. It’s not the car it’s the driver. We are getting ready to buy either a Flex, Escape or a Hyundai, not one bit concerned about safety, I haven’t had a drink before or after driving in many moons, I think that levels the playing field.

She’s Baaacccckkkk! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I use to race Mini's.
The owner of the car told me, get the inside rear wheel off the ground, you're getting close. Get both inside wheels off the ground, you are going the right speed,

Check out page 13, Table 7. It compares rollovers between vans and passenger cars.

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/810741

From the United States Department of Transportation National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,

"Kindelberger and Eigen (2003) modeled rollover of SUVs in crashes as a function of driver age, driver sex, and vehicle age. They found a negative relationship between probability of rollover and driver age, as did we. They found a positive and statistically significant relationship between the driver being male, as opposed to female, and probability of rollover. We found the opposite relationship. Finally, the paper found that, other things being equal, a one-year increase in vehicle age increased the odds of rollover by 3%. We found the increase in odds to be 1.7%. "

Above copied from the report by the United States Department of Transportation National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, linked in previous post.

The insurance institute for car crashes are the real tests that mean anything--their tests are light years ahead of the nhtsa star ratings and even better check out the the European tests-- the car at their bottom is the Ford Mustang

Leaping to conclusions will be an Olympic sport next year. I understand we will have a lot of entrants from The Villages.:coolsmiley::MOJE_whot::coolsmiley::ho:

I think the Flex will be my next car. The last production year will be 2020.:ohdear:

We have LOTS of every thing here. Why? Because things that would never make the news anywhere else get headlines on an unmentionable news site.

A Mercedes that is "rolley polley"? Surely you jest.

I do not jest, some Mercedes do not handle, my took the GLE out for a short spin and it leans in turns @ slow speed turns-I flat refused to drive it

If you guys want to see what a real car crash test should like, look up NCAP 2016 Mercedes E class--they do way more testing than we do--totally amazing

I think the small SUV's are so popular here because they are easier for us older folks to get in and out of. A regular sedan is too low for people with bad knees or hips, and a larger SUV is too high.

Im still trying to figure out what dear Gracie meant by the P word.

I think this is the video of an SL that rolled on the autobahn at over 150 mph. The driver walked away from it. Mercedes Benz SL-class crash - YouTube

Crash - Mercedes-Benz High Speed Crash at the Autobahn - YouTube

That video is what made us Mercedes customers--the best video ever

Smaller vehicles are easier to park and I think that is a major reason you see so many in The Villages. And they all pretty much look alike. We prefer a larger vehicle for safety and other personal reasons - - but to each his own... BTW they sort of all look alike too. I liked the older cars for style and looks but admit the technology is better today.

My wife's new SL is so cool, she can drive thru circles with hands off if she wants to and its wider and more stable than my E-class, also its scary fast

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