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Guest 01-28-2010 08:18 AM

OBAMA IS CRYSTAL ClEAR
 
It is now crystal clear that Obama does not care what the people want because he proved last night he is not listenimg to them.

Guest 01-28-2010 09:32 AM

Potus
 
Seems that the Potus was more interested in dressing down the congress, the Supreme Court, and any who opposed him and his social programs. His speech sounded more like a classroom scolding than having any substance. Definitely NOT presidential in any way. What did he really say about the State of the Union? Nothing!!!!! He offerred no program or direction to congress for the coming years. This was a chicken in every pot speech and nothing more except the chicken was a pet rock.

Guest 01-28-2010 11:41 AM

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...-union-speech/

The above link does fact checking on his speech

Guest 01-28-2010 01:39 PM

I can't believe he had the gall to embarass the Supreme Court Judges and our Chiefs of Staff the way he did. Just amazing!

Guest 01-28-2010 03:52 PM

Easy for him . He's a fool

Guest 01-28-2010 07:22 PM

The dressing down wasn't the kicker. What he said about the decision was a flat out LIE LIE LIE. What's new right?

Guest 01-28-2010 08:59 PM

He Didn't Disappoint
 
I watched just to see if he would continue to blame "the past administration".....he did.

Guest 01-30-2010 01:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 245806)
I can't believe he had the gall to embarass the Supreme Court Judges and our Chiefs of Staff the way he did. Just amazing!


Embarrass the Supreme Court Justices? Hardly. But have you forgotten that other Presidents have also called out the Supreme Court for an unfavorable ruling.

I think you might have. This isn't the first time. And now will begin a string of messages on how it isn't the same because .......fill in the blanks.

Guest 01-30-2010 01:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246029)
Embarrass the Supreme Court Justices? Hardly. But have you forgotten that other Presidents have also called out the Supreme Court for an unfavorable ruling.

I think you might have. This isn't the first time. And now will begin a string of messages on how it isn't the same because .......fill in the blanks.

Did other Presidents do it during their State of the Union Address? This man is very rude!

Guest 01-30-2010 01:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246029)
Embarrass the Supreme Court Justices? Hardly. But have you forgotten that other Presidents have also called out the Supreme Court for an unfavorable ruling.

I think you might have. This isn't the first time. And now will begin a string of messages on how it isn't the same because .......fill in the blanks.

So you think think our POTUS was justified in admonishing the Supreme Court Justices and our Chiefs of Staff on public TV in front of millions? There's a time and place for eveything, and this was not it. This was supposed to be a State of the Union Address. It was more like a campaign speech. And what does it matter what other presidents have done??? They may have called them out before, but never... NEVER like this!

Guest 01-30-2010 01:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246032)
Did other Presidents do it during their State of the Union Address? This man is very rude!

Very!

Guest 01-30-2010 02:06 PM

Potus
 
Why is it when this POTUS makes himself "perfectly clear," he needs 15 talking heads to to interpret what he really means? And, they do not always agree!

Guest 01-31-2010 01:09 AM

About time!
 
I think the President's State of the Union address was absolutely right on and about time. It's apparent he's going to get tougher now and it appears that no one on this board likes it!

Personally, I was thrilled to see him call out The Supreme Court for their ludicrous decision, to ask the Republicans to get off their overpaid rear-ends and actually participate in this government instead of hiding behind "the party of NO" and to take the Dems to task for not using the majority they "still" have!

I can't wait to see how the Republicans dare vote against "tax cuts" or better yet, filibuster! hahaha! Yep, I'd love to see them filibuster! As Doris Kearns Goodwin (noted historian) said, If the Republicans want to filibuster, let'em! It's never really worked on anything. They get up and read recipes or poems and after a while, they finally just shut up. The average age of the Senate is 62 years old! Some of the rules of a filibuster are 'only milk or water, no food, no bathroom breaks... to name just a few. So, let'em stand up and make fools of themselves."

OMG! I'd love to watch these 60-80 year olds get up and make complete fools of themselves! I'd pay good money to see that!!! :1rotfl:

Watch out peeps... the sleeping tiger has been awakened! :clap2:

Guest 01-31-2010 01:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 245772)
Seems that the Potus was more interested in dressing down the congress, the Supreme Court, and any who opposed him and his social programs. His speech sounded more like a classroom scolding than having any substance. Definitely NOT presidential in any way. What did he really say about the State of the Union? Nothing!!!!! He offerred no program or direction to congress for the coming years. This was a chicken in every pot speech and nothing more except the chicken was a pet rock.

He sounds more like a thug- like bully then a president. He is an embarrassment.

Guest 01-31-2010 01:25 AM

hmmmmmmm.....
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 246146)
He sounds more like a thug- like bully then a president. He is an embarrassment.

No, I think if you look up the word "embarrassment" in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of George W. Bush. :shocked:

Guest 01-31-2010 08:44 AM

Ah, back to Bush again. I knew that was coming even a year later.

Obama's speech was one big LIE after LIE. The comment he made about the SC decision was a huge lie and everyone knows it.... except a few.

His speech wasn't embarrassing, it's was just plain incompetent, misinformed, and full of lies. Obama is nothing short of delusional and way over his head. Everything he's done is one big mess.

Let's restate one FACT overlooked by the libs.

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY. THEY DON'T NEED ANY REPUBLICANS. THEY CAN PASS ANYTHING THEY WANT ANYTIME THEY WANT.

And they still can't get anything done right. Why? Because they are crooks and even some in their own party won't go along with them. The biggest crook of them all is Obama and even the democrats run from his radicle ways... well some do.

Here's just one example.

"With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests –- including foreign corporations –- to spend without limit in our elections."

Can anyone tell me what century of law that was? Doesn't the anointed one know that the decision reversed part of a law that was passed in 2002? Doesn't the anointed one know that the same laws that apply to foreign corporations are still there just like they have been for a century? Isn't that way one of the justices mouthed "that's not true."

I'll tell you what the problem is. The Democrats only want THEIR special interest spending money on campaigns, no one else.

Guest 01-31-2010 09:56 AM

I miss George Bush. He may not talk very well to his teleprompter but he was sincere and I felt his heart was in the right place. I feel this new guy is lying to everybody.

Guest 01-31-2010 10:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246167)
I miss George Bush. He may not talk very well to his teleprompter but he was sincere and I felt his heart was in the right place. I feel this new guy is lying to everybody.


He has already lied numerous times !

I think he is a smart man....but so badly advised by nothing but pure political hacks !

Guest 01-31-2010 11:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246032)
Did other Presidents do it during their State of the Union Address? This man is very rude!

Thank you ... thank you ..... thank you. You proved my point.

Guest 01-31-2010 11:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246038)
So you think think our POTUS was justified in admonishing the Supreme Court Justices and our Chiefs of Staff on public TV in front of millions? There's a time and place for eveything, and this was not it. This was supposed to be a State of the Union Address. It was more like a campaign speech. And what does it matter what other presidents have done??? They may have called them out before, but never... NEVER like this!

And what was your opinion of the Congressman shouting out "You LIE" during a Presidential speech before Congress?

Surely you have forgotten a certain President SOTU campaign speech prior to the Iraq war. You know the one when he lied about the "Yellow Cake". I can still see him. And my family is still feeling the effects of that SOTU.

Guest 01-31-2010 11:06 AM

Read please!
 
DK, it appears you skim read. I did say I was happy he took the Dems to task also for not using THE MAJORITY THEY STILL HAVE!!!

Donna, bless your heart, I'm sure you do miss George Bush. Hey, maybe Jeb will run.

;)

Guest 01-31-2010 11:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246038)
So you think think our POTUS was justified in admonishing the Supreme Court Justices and our Chiefs of Staff on public TV in front of millions? There's a time and place for eveything, and this was not it. This was supposed to be a State of the Union Address. It was more like a campaign speech. And what does it matter what other presidents have done??? They may have called them out before, but never... NEVER like this!

This is what I said....

And now will begin a string of messages on how it isn't the same because .......fill in the blanks.

This makes 2 in a row. So predictable

Guest 01-31-2010 11:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246148)
No, I think if you look up the word "embarrassment" in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of George W. Bush. :shocked:

:agree::agree:


Thats a good one.. LOL

Guest 01-31-2010 11:13 AM

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not using THE MAJORITY THEY STILL HAVE!!!
The reason why they are not using the THE MAJORITY THEY STILL HAVE!!!??

BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD BILLS and they know it.

Guest 01-31-2010 11:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246185)
DK, it appears you skim read. I did say I was happy he took the Dems to task also for not using THE MAJORITY THEY STILL HAVE!!!

Donna, bless your heart, I'm sure you do miss George Bush. Hey, maybe Jeb will run.

;)

Do you think he will? He would return the honor that was once the presidency.

Guest 01-31-2010 01:42 PM

When?
 
He kept referring to his "taking responsibility" and would turn right around and blame the "past administration". How is that taking responsibility? When does he actually plan to start? The last administration has not been there for the last year. In all fairness, he did refer to past administrations decades back. Wonder which ones those were?

Guest 01-31-2010 02:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246193)
Do you think he will? He would return the honor that was once the presidency.

And how is it the honor of the presidency has to be returned? Has this president had an affair? Taken a bribe? Lied? What?

Guest 01-31-2010 09:08 PM

My favorite memory on the state of the union speech comes from the woman in the Frank Luntz focus group featured after the speech who expressed the thought that the President is the best recycler in America...because his address did nothing more than raise the points he made in his inaugural address! I agree that the address did nothing to clue me in on what the state of this union is! But of course, I don't need Obama to tell me what it is because I live it every day! The only difference I saw between the inaugural address and the state of the union address was a shift in emphasis from fixing health care to fixing the state of unemployment. There was no pivot as political commentators predicted - it was the same old same old campaigner standing in front of us telling us it is going to cost us more buckets of money to get out of this hole that George Bush '43' got us into. Same old blame game is really getting on my nerves.

When is the the POTUS going to get it!?! He wasted one full year trying to ram an unwanted reform bill down our throats. He demonized the efforts of the apolitical tea party to make him see by allowing princess Pelosi to call the folks astro-turf - she wouldn't know grass roots from the roots of a bad hair dye. He mocked the people who turned out in droves at town meetings to protest rather than recognize them as the protestors he used to rally as a social organizer.

He wants me to believe that he is sincere in reaching across the aisle now - I want to know where this sincerity was before the Massachussetts special election! He is not asking for participation - he is daring Republicans to participate! He meets with the Republicans at their retreat in Baltimore and takes blame for the last days of reconciling a health care bill being "messy" - big deal! Does he really want me to buy this? Rather, I have become more cynical than I ever thought I could be! I believe that the last days of the health care meetings were deliberately scattered hither, thither and yon - just to insure that there could be no transparency! He must have wanted to choke when he had to admit that some of the recommendations/proposed legislative amendments made by the Republicans have been accepted and incorporated into the health care reform bill and other legislation of his administration - thus refuting the name tag of "the party of no".

Now I am convinced that the true direction of this administration will only be seen in the moves orchestrated by princess Nancy and lord Harry. Obama has set himself up to be the good guy in the white hat riding in to save sweet Nell (us) while he has directed the House and Senate leadership to do the dirty deeds. I need to be saved from being saved by this administration!

The President has neither done nor said anything new that can convince me that he is anything more that a social reformer. Sure, he knows a lot of stuff and he is good at delivering it with or without a teleprompter - but I cannot believe that he believes what he is saying. I believe he is saying what he thinks we want to hear because of the MA special election. He lost his party's filibuster majority and does not want to flaunt that he knows he still has the majority. He can let Nancy and Harry spout the hard to hear stuff so that he can still look like the good guy making the honest effort. I can no longer trust or hope to trust whatever this President says.

Get Rid of Incumbent Politicians

Guest 02-01-2010 10:23 AM

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And how is it the honor of the presidency has to be returned? Has this president had an affair? Taken a bribe? Lied? What?
Lied? YES... all the time.

Bribes? Well, I'm sure he hasn't taken any but he sure hands them out like candy.

Guest 02-01-2010 10:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246219)
And how is it the honor of the presidency has to be returned? Has this president had an affair? Taken a bribe? Lied? What?

He was a part of the Daly machine and you ask THIS question? Accepting bribes and doing 'favors' is a long standing practice in Chicago politics. I hope you jest.:jester:

Guest 02-01-2010 10:50 AM

We were on a cruise and caught the re-run. I watched it about
 
10 minutes and decided it was ANOTHER Obama campaign, pep rally type speech. The man uses the word "I" way to much when he wants to clarify where or who he is.
I remember in days gone by when Kruschev was characterized in the political cartoons showing him bowing slightly, big smile on this face, out stretched right hand being offered to shake hands and in his left hand behind his back was a round black bomb with the fuse lit.

Kinda the way I view Obama when he is making a rah-rah speech except behind his back is the book titled "MY Agenda for America (like it or not)".

Actually all the politicians carry the same book, don't they.

After 10 minutes I turned it off.....more of the same old stuff...boring....non-commital....schmooze.

We have decided to emulate one of the advantages of being on a cruise....not watching the TV except to check the weather and review what we are going to do tomorrow.

btk

Guest 02-01-2010 11:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246326)
Lied? YES... all the time.

Bribes? Well, I'm sure he hasn't taken any but he sure hands them out like candy.

So Obama lies all the time...got any proof?

Has anybody died?

Guest 02-01-2010 11:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246333)
He was a part of the Daly machine and you ask THIS question? Accepting bribes and doing 'favors' is a long standing practice in Chicago politics. I hope you jest.:jester:

Part of the Daly machine ...what???? Cause he lived in Chicago? What actual proof do you have? Or are you just about slander? Glen Beck fan?

I can asure you the last President lied big time....dishonored the office

Guest 02-01-2010 11:55 PM

Mr. Obama has told many lies. Even the liberals are mad at him. He promised transparency. All back door pay offs.
He is on the road to be the worst president in history.

Guest 02-02-2010 08:35 AM

Is that a serious question? As long as no one died everything is a ok?

Tax cuts for 95% of Americans - Lie
No earmarks - Lie
Lobbiests in his administration - Lie
Most transparent government - Lie
Comment about the Supreme Court decision - Lie
Open health care debate on CSPAN - Lie

My gosh, I could go on and on but I'm at work so I can't. Maybe later.

Anyone want to add to the list? It's easy.

Guest 02-02-2010 09:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246495)
Is that a serious question? As long as no one died everything is a ok? No my point is the last president did lie and many people died and are still dying.

Tax cuts for 95% of Americans - Lie He hasn't done that yet but not a lie.
No earmarks - Lie I wondered how he could stop the pigs at the trough.
Lobbiests in his administration - Lie Could be doing better.
Most transparent government - Lie Compared to the last Not a lie
Comment about the Supreme Court decision - Nope not a lie.
Open health care debate on CSPAN - Lie It was on CSPAN

My gosh, I could go on and on but I'm at work so I can't. Maybe later.

Anyone want to add to the list? It's easy.

There are my answers.

Guest 02-02-2010 09:03 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 246484)
Mr. Obama has told many lies. Even the liberals are mad at him. He promised transparency. All back door pay offs.
He is on the road to be the worst president in history.

He has a high bar to get over given the last.

Guest 02-02-2010 09:30 AM

Let's just pick one thing to start.

Obama said the Supreme Court turned over 100 years of legal precedent.

Can you tell me what precedent that was from 100 years ago?

Guest 02-02-2010 09:38 AM

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Tax cuts for 95% of Americans - Lie He hasn't done that yet but not a lie.
You just said he hasn't done it yet so it's not a lie. He claims he has. Let's clarify that as well. In his state of the union address the other night he said and I quote.

"Now, let me repeat: We cut taxes. We cut taxes for 95 percent of working families. We cut taxes for small businesses."

BIG FAT LIE.

Guest 02-02-2010 10:03 AM

Standard verbiage that comes with the review of every
 
speech he EVER made...."Obama said _ _ _ _ _ (fill in the blank), however details were lacking".

Schmooze = tell 'em what you think they wanna hear.....then go onto the next one. They all do it. But since Obama has broken every record for appearances/interviews he does it more. Creating a more obvious data stream of words and no action/results.

I believe he and his whiz bang wizards in the WH really believe that as long as a given subject has been TALKED about...the subject has been addressed. I suppose in the legal sense of analysis that MAY be true...some how I have never been able to make a deposit at the bank with words only!!

btk


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