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eweissenbach 12-06-2018 09:28 PM

Found this on YouTube - A must see!
 
It is too cool!

Original Promo Video for The Villages Florida - YouTube

You're welcome!

Bill32 12-06-2018 09:39 PM

Very cool!

BK001 12-07-2018 06:27 AM

Wow - what a great old ad and piece of history. Thanks for posting. $65.00 per night LSV at the Hacienda Hotel. Limousine picked you up at the airport and when you arrived the amount you paid was exchanged for the same amount of "Village Dollars". Free complementary breakfast. The Alameda 2B/2b priced in $mid-thrties. Designer homes in the $low-fifties to $low-seventies. Want a pool? Add $9,000. Those were the days.

Fun seeing Chi Chi Rodriguez (who is 83 today) as a young man playing golf.

I was very surprised that this youtube ad has only 400+ views!

graciegirl 12-07-2018 07:04 AM

Thank you. Fun to watch.

My Daily Run 12-07-2018 07:16 AM

Loved it but curious about what happened to the family. Lots of names and faces that I didn't recognize.

Bay Kid 12-07-2018 08:12 AM

Really, really cool! Thank you

PaulDenise 12-07-2018 09:09 AM

What year was that??

eweissenbach 12-07-2018 09:52 AM

I'm guessing late 80s, but I will defer to more accomplished historians. It was obviously right after they crossed 441 and before the golf cart bridge or Spanish Springs were constructed. It appears that there was a more even split of responsibilities among Mr. Schwartz offspring at the time. It would be interesting to know the backstory of how everything evolved into Gary and his children as the "Developer".

tophcfa 12-07-2018 10:02 AM

Gotta love it, Thanks : )

Serenoa 12-07-2018 10:22 AM

For those of us interested in the history of The Villages I have to wonder why the Morse family hasn't made videos like this readily available for viewing? I would have to think there has to be many more stored away somewhere documenting the development & growth of TV over the years. Let's see them!

eweissenbach 12-07-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1605609)
For those of us interested in the history of The Villages I have to wonder why the Morse family hasn't made videos like this readily available for viewing? I would have to think there has to be many more stored away somewhere documenting the development & growth of TV over the years. Let's see them!

Not to speculate or cast aspersions, but it may be because they don't really want to share things that feature family members who no longer are involved in the development. There may have been some "palace intrigue" involved and some hard feelings. Again, that is pure speculation, but it is interesting that the Gary Morse tree is credited with founding TV along with Harold, while this video would seem to imply that it was a more widespread family venture in the beginning.

eweissenbach 12-07-2018 12:24 PM

Just rewatched with my wife and caught the couple that won the lottery saying they had moved there in 1979 and had been there almost 12 years. That would make it produced in 1990 or 91.

billethkid 12-07-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1605609)
For those of us interested in the history of The Villages I have to wonder why the Morse family hasn't made videos like this readily available for viewing? I would have to think there has to be many more stored away somewhere documenting the development & growth of TV over the years. Let's see them!

They did. When or whether they stopped I have no idea.

In 2003 when I saw their ad on television. I sent for the video. The disc arrived with a portfolio of all the details and layouts of every type of home that was available for purchase those days. I said to my wife, if the actual location was even close to the video...that is where we were going to buy.

A few weeks later we did the visitors weekend...$25 per night in one of the villas near the old sales center parking lot. Also got a bunch of Villages bucks and a dinner for two at the Cattlemen's club.

We had a lot picked out (October 2003). Closing date of May 15, 2004....moved in September 2015.

And if I just did the visit recently I would do the same thing again!!

PS....I am actually surprised at the thus far limited response to the video which I think is very entertaining. Puts a face with the name Swartz. So nice to see Gary and Sharon Morse. Mark and Jennifer were just youngsters. I thought more folks would be entertained/enlightened as well.

Nucky 12-07-2018 02:49 PM

Thank for the video. We are almost certain we saw the house we live in today on the video. Just Fantastic Thank You.

A while back Manabouttown posted this which is fun to watch also. there is a part 1 & part 2. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxZH_WTRVNU]Del Webb Sun City AZ Promo The Beginning Part I - Can't seem to come up with Part 2 but it there somewhere. Enjoy.

Serenoa 12-07-2018 03:08 PM

We've visited TV several times since the first time in 2012,and while we still don't live there (yet) I feel like I know quite a bit about it. But a few things stood out in the video that I hope someone can answer my questions about. I guess WOBG tv station went by the wayside at some point? La Plaza Grande shopping center today isn't anything like what is shown in the video, is it? Where was the Fiesta Bowl bowling alley? Was it done away with once Spanish Springs town center was built? Does La Hacienda Hotel still exist, or did it go away at some point? TIA.

manaboutown 12-07-2018 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1605659)
Thank for the video. We are almost certain we saw the house we live in today on the video. Just Fantastic Thank You.

A while back Manabouttown posted this which is fun to watch also. there is a part 1 & part 2. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxZH_WTRVNU]Del Webb Sun City AZ Promo The Beginning Part I - Can't seem to come up with Part 2 but it there somewhere. Enjoy.

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxZH_WTRVNU

Del Webb Sun City AZ Promo - The Beginning Part 2.wmv - YouTube

By the way I loved the Villages video which I had not seen. Thank you OP!

IMHO it showed the incredible vision and well thought out planning 'the developers' used to create and grow The Villages.

Nucky 12-07-2018 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1605665)
Here you go:

Del Webb Sun City AZ Promo The Beginning Part I - YouTube

Del Webb Sun City AZ Promo - The Beginning Part 2.wmv - YouTube

By the way I loved the Villages video which I had not seen. Thank you OP!

IMHO it showed the incredible vision and well thought out planning 'the developers' used to create and grow The Villages.

Thank You, Sir. Wish I knew how to do that. I have watched your video several times a year and don't take it as competition to The Villages because I have met several people who have moved from The Webb Community to ours. Glad you fixed it up for us. Thanks again. :clap2:

manaboutown 12-07-2018 04:14 PM

You are most welcome, Nucky!

These videos make some great points and warm my heart.

eweissenbach 12-07-2018 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1605658)
They did. When or whether they stopped I have no idea.

In 2003 when I saw their ad on television. I sent for the video. The disc arrived with a portfolio of all the details and layouts of every type of home that was available for purchase those days. I said to my wife, if the actual location was even close to the video...that is where we were going to buy.

A few weeks later we did the visitors weekend...$25 per night in one of the villas near the old sales center parking lot. Also got a bunch of Villages bucks and a dinner for two at the Cattlemen's club.

We had a lot picked out (October 2003). Closing date of May 15, 2004....moved in September 2015.

And if I just did the visit recently I would do the same thing again!!

PS....I am actually surprised at the thus far limited response to the video which I think is very entertaining. Puts a face with the name Swartz. So nice to see Gary and Sharon Morse. Mark and Jennifer were just youngsters. I thought more folks would be entertained/enlightened as well.

I have watched it twice since I discovered it last night. I find it extremely fascinating for a few reasons:

In contemporary Villages history Gary Morse is portrayed as the savior of TV while Harold is portrayed as a glad handing old man strolling around the community and the square greeting visitors and residents. This makes it appear that he was still quite involved and the head of the organization in the early nineties.

All of the previous history I have read barely mentions, or completely ignores, the other members of the family which were obviously intimately involved at the time of this video.

The prices of the homes seem insanely reasonable for that period of time. (I bought a nice, but not extravagant home in Fargo in 1989 for $180K and a smaller home in St. Paul In 1994 for $140K.)

What the hell ever happened to Uncle Bob and Aunt Connie?

The victors, as they say, write the history!

KEVIN & JOSIE 12-07-2018 11:43 PM

Thanks for sharing.

Bosoxfan 12-07-2018 11:45 PM

Very informative

queasy27 12-08-2018 10:55 AM

That was long but fun! The changes in interior design in less than 20 years, oh my. The models seemed to be a mix of manufactured homes and stick-built, given the garages on some.

I think the public area of La Plaza Grande looks pretty much the same today.

eweissenbach 12-08-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by queasy27 (Post 1605852)
That was long but fun! The changes in home design in in less than 20 years, oh my. The models seemed to be a mix of manufactured homes and stick-built, given the garages on some.

I think the public area of La Plaza Grande looks pretty much the same today.

Just a point of clarification, it is almost thirty years. The homes they were building at that time were all stick-built. I think they had only recently gone to that as opposed to manufactured when they crossed 441.

pauld315 12-08-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1605855)
Just a point of clarification, it is almost thirty years. The homes they were building at that time were all stick-built. I think they had only recently gone to that as opposed to manufactured when they crossed 441.

There are neighborhoods (Delmar is one of them) after they crossed 441 on the east side of Morse near Spanish Springs that have manufactured homes mingled with stick built homes. I think you still had a choice between the 2 at the time these were built.

pauld315 12-08-2018 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1605635)
Just rewatched with my wife and caught the couple that won the lottery saying they had moved there in 1979 and had been there almost 12 years. That would make it produced in 1990 or 91.

It also said the Hacienda Hills Golf Course had just opened. That was in 1990.

pauld315 12-08-2018 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1605663)
We've visited TV several times since the first time in 2012,and while we still don't live there (yet) I feel like I know quite a bit about it. But a few things stood out in the video that I hope someone can answer my questions about. I guess WOBG tv station went by the wayside at some point? La Plaza Grande shopping center today isn't anything like what is shown in the video, is it? Where was the Fiesta Bowl bowling alley? Was it done away with once Spanish Springs town center was built? Does La Hacienda Hotel still exist, or did it go away at some point? TIA.

LaPlaza Grand Shopping Center is very similar today to what was in the video

Fiesta Bowling Alley is still up and running. It is close to the Villages Golf Cars in Spanish Springs.

La Hacienda Hotel building is still there. I think it is now The Holiday Inn Express by Paige and Avenida Central.

champion6 12-12-2018 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1605523)

Ruh-Roh. "Somebody" doesn't want us to see it. I just went to watch the video again and got this message:
Video unavailable
"Original Promo for The Vi..." is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Villages of Lake-Sumter Inc..

twoplanekid 12-12-2018 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1606947)
Ruh-Roh. "Somebody" doesn't want us to see it. I just went to watch the video again and got this message:
Video unavailable
"Original Promo for The Vi..." is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Villages of Lake-Sumter Inc..

I also received that same message when trying to view it today.

billethkid 12-12-2018 12:54 PM

I knew I should have saved to my computer....Now I will have to try to find it elsewhere before the copyright police come down again!!

Did anybody think to download/save it?

graciegirl 12-12-2018 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1605609)
For those of us interested in the history of The Villages I have to wonder why the Morse family hasn't made videos like this readily available for viewing? I would have to think there has to be many more stored away somewhere documenting the development & growth of TV over the years. Let's see them!

It is my assessment that they are very low key, not interested in being "on". Do run a for profit business, but are not big for being in the spotlight.

They come across to me as decent Midwest folks who are busy doing their job and if they need someone else to count their money, that is fine too.

mixsonci 12-12-2018 02:10 PM

I just tried to open it and it says video no longer available due to copyright by TV of Lady Lake

twoplanekid 12-12-2018 02:13 PM

Oldie (Dec. 1996) found on the wayback machine site ->The Villages
Same site (Feb. 2000) -> Designer Homes
and from (Aug. 2005) -> Welcome to The Villages - The retirement lifestyle you've been dreaming about
one more Feb 2009 -> The Villages - Lifestyle

Nucky 12-12-2018 03:22 PM

I'm O.K. with it, not that it matters but does anyone know why they wouldn't want this to be seen. It was fantastic.

manaboutown 12-12-2018 03:45 PM

My guess is the copyright/trademark/trade name ownership entity of 'The Villages' assiduously polices its intellectual property.

eweissenbach 12-12-2018 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1606995)
I'm O.K. with it, not that it matters but does anyone know why they wouldn't want this to be seen. It was fantastic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1605609)
For those of us interested in the history of The Villages I have to wonder why the Morse family hasn't made videos like this readily available for viewing? I would have to think there has to be many more stored away somewhere documenting the development & growth of TV over the years. Let's see them!

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1605622)
Not to speculate or cast aspersions, but it may be because they don't really want to share things that feature family members who no longer are involved in the development. There may have been some "palace intrigue" involved and some hard feelings. Again, that is pure speculation, but it is interesting that the Gary Morse tree is credited with founding TV along with Harold, while this video would seem to imply that it was a more widespread family venture in the beginning.

What happened to Uncle Bob and Aunt Connie?

champion6 12-12-2018 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1607003)
What happened to Uncle Bob and Aunt Connie?

Are you possibly asking about Karnie?

Harold and wife Bernice had a daughter Karen (Karnie) Schwartz-Hicks. According to an Ocala Star-Banner article written when Harold died in 2003, she precede Harold in death.

VApeople 12-12-2018 06:24 PM

This is the video that convinced us to move here!

What It's Like To Live In A Retirement Community (The Villages, Florida) - YouTube

EviesGP 12-12-2018 09:03 PM

I think it's totally tragic that they removed this video??? I/we are about to buy/move there(just spent 2 1/2 months there), and love to see/hear the nostalgia? What is there to hide??? Just sad!

manaboutown 12-12-2018 09:28 PM

'They' may or may not be 'hiding' anything but they appear to be protecting their intellectual property.

graciegirl 12-12-2018 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EviesGP (Post 1607078)
I think it's totally tragic that they removed this video??? I/we are about to buy/move there(just spent 2 1/2 months there), and love to see/hear the nostalgia? What is there to hide??? Just sad!

????

This reminds me of people protesting when the buffalo went away. Things change.


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