Christian Humanists.
 

What is Christian humanism?

Just want to point out that there were and are Christian humanist writers. BBC - History - Erasmus

In Praise of Folly by Desiderius Erasmus - Free Ebook

The Christian Humanist: Politics Religion Ethics - An Alternative To Traditional Christianity--Christianity Without God

Sounds like an oxymoron to me!

Christian humanist. What is Christian Humanism? (David Grubbs) - YouTube

The Christian Humanist – Philosophy, Theology, Literature, and Other Things Human Beings Do Well

I’m no expert, but gotta admit...I was thinking the same thing.

If you go back to the Renaissance humanists many of those were Christians as well. But were often against various things the Catholic Church had been doing at that time. Renaissance humanism - Wikipedia

Thomas More - Wikipedia

I'd say you're right. A Christian is a Christ-follower! Someone who tries (with God's help) to emulate what God through Jesus would have us live. I've read "The Book" that talks about this.

There were Popes who were Christian humanists who I would assume were very familiar The Bible. I would consider the current Pope a Christian humanist as he puts people first over the Church or seems to. Pope Francis isn't a liberal. He's something more radical: a Christian humanist.

The New Christian Humanism: The Pope Saint John Paul II Lecture – Dominican Friars Foundation

I get it, a humanist could be a Christian, but not an atheist. But, by the definition of each, a Christian could never be a humanist.

Is there a difference between a humanist and an atheist? - Quora

You have to rethink your definitions.

Francis on authentic Christian humanism - The Catholic Thing

Humanism Is Centered on Jesus Christ, Says Pope Francis | The Christian Post

I am sure I am right. Sorry if you don’t get it.:pray:

How are you right? I minored in Religious Studies and have a BA in History and one in Philosophy.

And you have the current Pope writing and talking about Christian Humanism. Pope Francis on Christian Humanism | Millennial

Christian can be a Humanist, if that Christian places the needs of the person higher than the needs of the religion.

Show me any religion that puts the person ahead of god and I can show you a confused person. You cannot be a true Christian and put anything or anyone ahead of God in any way. please quote scripture that allows us to put God in second place.

You can call an onion a marshmallow but don't ask me to make you some Smores.

Project MUSE - Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew (review)

That is funny. I do not want to start peeling the onion that is The Bible.

Lost Christianities: Christian Scriptures and the Battles over Authentication Prof. Ehrman-Religion

What is a Christian? - AllAboutGOD.com
What is a Christian?
The Biblical Definition Since the Bible is the authority for the Christian faith, let's see what it says about the word “Christian.” The word is only used 3 times in the ...


Go to this link and it gives the definition in a better way than I did or can.

Now that is a HUGE can of worms. A lot of wars have been fought over the question about "What is a Christian?" and the "proper" answer to it.

My understanding of what a Christian is: A person of faith in the one god of Abraham and clarified by Jesus Christ as stated in the New Testament. What a Christian is NOT is a person that would hyphenate their devotion to God in any way, EXAMPLE: Christian/Atheist, Christian/Humanist etc..

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No one needs to interpret scripture for you. It's one of the saddest misconceptions I have found being a life long (sorta) Catholic.

I don't like it when people use the subject of religion to find reason to put others down, mock them, belittle them and show their fannies.

Some on this thread have done that, and others I KNOW to be examples of good sense, kindness, thoughtful dealings with others, patience and good works.

I am sort of a struggling Christian. I think it beats the hell out of other religions that kill those who don't join up. But then I am biased because I see a lot of Christians and Jews who I just love. Also love me some folks who are Hindu and Jain and are Atheist and Agnostic. I don't love mean people. I think some were just born that way. Maybe I am a Struggling Christian Geneticist who believes in God (with a capital G) most of the time and wish I had stronger faith.

At our age as retired people, I would say don’t dilly dally the short time left to find and make a heartfelt commitment to God. Remember, an acceptance of Jesus as your lord and savior is more than just saying, ok, I’ll take it. It must be real. Most of us being over 65 have very little time left. I will pray for you.:pray:

As are many others with varying opinions.

Most truthful post on this entire thread.

Why does everything need a label?

Individual faith is like a thumb print. No two people have exactly the same body of beliefs, "Christians included".

That is very wise, Challenger. :bigbow:

And you know this? Is GOD talking to you!

I would say some Christian’s are the good gangs. As used as verb!

I was thinking the same thing.

I am sure you are right and correct.

We label folks by their heritage, their religion, their dress, the color of their skin, even their status of income, their views of the world and make a general and almost always wrong decision on who they are.

"It's important to recognize that the people we label as "black," "white," "rich," poor," smart," and "simple," seem blacker, whiter, richer, poorer, smarter, and simpler merely because we've labeled them so. "

Why It's Dangerous to Label People | Psychology Today

Fear of these groups are then able to be used to unite for a common hate or cause.

Excellent link. :thumbup:

It's a shame that so many who need to read it...won't. :ohdear:

Just as they should read about Jane Elliott's very eye-opening (a little intended pun there :D)... and important work.

Blue Eyes-Brown Eyes (poke here)

And I have to admit, that I personally take some pride engendering hate and fear toward me...from the intolerant. :ho:

Interesting to me is a thread based on "Christian Humanities" has been fraught with accusations of other posters "talking down" by quoting and linking to other sites discussing this subject, or related.

Makes you wonder if frequent posters ever read or understand some of the links provided, or just post based on some other judgement they have.

Also, makes one wonder if all minds are now closed, and unable to listen or "see".

Why there is no discussion of actual humanities, or labeling of other human beings sort of defies the imagination, yet posters feel they are being talked down to. I think folks should go back to post 1 and continue through all links that have been provided before posting on here. If you feel "guilty", or offended, as we all should at certain points in reading about human frailties and labeling, then perhaps post yourfeelings about that.

INTOLERANCE......unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.

And just to add:

Definition of a "Humanist" (poke here)

How in the world could anyone...be against that? :ohdear:

I am so glad to know on this Forum and throughout these Villages, this country and this world, so many kind humans. So many caring homosapiens, so many witty primates.

I am happy about the interchanges and support and bear hugs from male and female people.

I look all around me and mostly see ungrumpy and hopeful and extremely savvy folks with fewer years ahead of them then those that are left behind.

And I, like them, am grateful for this day.

Not sure I understand what this seemingly.........well, post has to do with the subject.

What do you think of the readings on christian humanists, labeling of other human beings or intolerance ?

Hoping you read the link(s) and contribute to the discussion. My frustration is folks who refuse to acknowledge a thread and the links provided because it is somehow contradictory to what you think...

I have been deleted on this thread and others simply for asking people to read, instead of preach and judge me. In that we seem to agree.

It works both ways. I was the one who provided the link to the humanist church and commented against labeling. You paint with a wide brush.

Why not? We're telling people that they can decide what sex they are. Soon there will not be actual definitions of anything.

I do not recall exactly what I posted...it was deleted because of a complaint, but as I recall it was basically how I see LABELING being used today.......pick a group....label it.....begin to accuse that group of whatever, and use that basis to gather folks in fear.

THAT is exactly the world we live in today, and I could furnish many many, examples of that but it would get deleted.

Point is....how can everyone in my country decide at one time to hate another group based on skin color, religion, or ethnicity....it is totally impossible, yet folks on both sides of the aisle seem to live on that.

Hard to discuss because everyone feels it is somehow aimed at their group......it is todays human behavior and is wrong...totally wrong. When a movement or group is based on that kind of fear, it is based on nothing and that goes for everyone, myself included.

Those I fear are feared because of facts and truth..nothing else, and in no case do I have a fear of a large group of anybody. THUS, I try very hard to paint with a wide brush.....can only deal with today and what is happening......or we will have a discussion of the past, not the present.

i know folks are running to report this post and I find that as sad......I tried to be as diplomatic as possible, but some take this personally instead of its true meaning which is a reflection of our society. I choose not to follow the fear, but instead follow truth and facts, and that come across to some as preachy but help me with other words to use.

As an example....when I was young....40's and 50's I grew up in what I would best describe as an intolerant home. Two groups talked about always were blacks and jews. It was always a label assigned and thus fear them.

I lucked out in meeting through sports a number of blacks and Jews who were better people than most in all ways. I found them to be more trustworhy and honest than others. Later in the NAVY and WASHDC to work that was reinforced as was the fear and loathing for both groups.......that stuck with me...ignorance led folks to make such stupid decisions and that hate seemed to be the "glue" that brought some groups together thus I am sensitive to any group founded on fear or hate.

I think that there are more people that agree with you and are very tolerant and decent than the ones who are bigots so it is wrong to say everyone is guilty of this. The sad thing is that those who are truly biased are not going to change by anything you post.