Executive Course Greens in Deplorable Condition
 

Again this year, the Executive course greens are in deplorable condition. An embarrassment and one that could have been corrected. No this is not caused by excessive footsteps but by management opting to not overseed and elect to have residents instead putt on green dirt. Come on folks. Too late for this year but invest in our courses next year and give us something to play on. Heads need to roll.

Are these the same courses that the Villages Golf Mgt just took back over?

I agree 100% it’s a shame and most of the Championship courses are not worth half of what they are charging very disappointed

We played Belmont Saturday....the greens were a mess.
We played Walnut Grove on Sunday...the greens were exceptional....like a pile carpet.

The difference? It has to be those those manage and maintain the courses.

An obvious difference in condition of the courses.

Add to that the growing numbers of players who do not fix ball marks, fill divots or rake bunkers.

TV newspaper needs to do a special on the players responsibilities when playing golf. The incidents of ball marks on the greens is staggering. Must be the same inconsiderate folks that do not rake the bunkers. And never fill a divot.

If the newspaper can run an article about dog owners doing the right thing....they can certainly run a special appeal to the far too many golfers who do not do the right thing(s).

Newsflash........

They're the same people. :swear:

Don't forget how hard it is to get a tee time this time of year. Over developed already for the FROGs. Looking for my next investment/home. U can have this congested mess.

R, X Villager.

I would say today on El Diablo I fixed no less than 3 ball Mark's on all the greens. Unbelievable how many of our fellow residents don't care for our courses and apparently thankless to have them.

I see that a lot of people playing are a little older and cannot bend down to fix the ball marks. They use the ball grabber on the end of their club to get the ball wothout having to bend over. I am sure not all ball marks are made by people who are physically unable to bend over but if you see one while playing please fix them. Every little bit will help.

Seems like the courses north of 466 are in a lot better shape than the ones south of 466.
Someone said they put both areas out for quote on maintenance each year and the company that does northern courses do a better job. I don't know if that is correct.

It might just be working against them. Played with a three month renter that has been coming here for 4 years. After playing four substandard exec courses in a row he said the luster has worn off. Since golf is his principal activity he is considering a move further south to play better conditioned courses with less traffic. Pretty sure he is not alone. Just sayin.

The older/physically limited players that have the ball pickers on their putters USUALLY can’t flight the ball high enough to make marks; it’s the lazy privileged entitled that aren’t taking care of OUR courses.

Hey! I was going to say that!
Steve

Ball marks are a minor problem compared to proper maintenance by the Greenskeeper.

it is embarassing when you have company. not the pictures the villages wants to sell

Or Harbor Hills too, right?

I for one do not repair Ball marks on the greens nor do I rake the traps I have become one of the entitled. The powers to be don't really care about the conditions of the executive courses. I too don't care. I pay my dues and take what's there. It's really nice being one of the entitled, when next move is to get a handicap flag so I can drive right up to the greens. Sorry about this but that's the way I feel and no I'm not moving

Played Bogart Sunday. EVERY cup had been torn up by someone too lazy to remove the pin to retrieve their ball. Such a shame.

Sarasota...just got done playing Sarasota. Greens and tee boxes are in great shape, probably the best maintained executive course that I played all week. Kudos to their groundskeepers.

Hmmmnnnnn!!!
Sometimes it very difficult to distinguish between BS and bait!!

Somehow I feel like that’s the only part of the post that’s not true.

Yep...:agree:

Played Bogart today, Weds, and you are correct. New flag rule might be reducing round time very slightly but cup are taking a beating for reason you stated. I also thought greens were very poor, even for this time of year. That said in all fairness I know nothing about maintaining golf greens.

I play every other day, and have never had a problem getting a tee time, unless you are looking for a time to the minute and a specifiic course.
I put a two and a half hour window, with a 'time to start' of 0130pm, and I get it within twenty minutes either way every time.
I give a selection of courses that I prefer.

Play Walnut Grove if you want to see it done right!

I've never played on an exec with "deplorable" greens. And coming from NY, the greens fees on the champs are very reasonable, especially after 2
Steve

The greens are horrible and bunkers are filled with too much sand. Use the sand for the divot bottles and buy some rollers to use weekly. Problem solved

The greens and tee boxes on Silver Lake were in decent shape yesterday except for untouched fresh ball marks.

Greens in Deplorable Condition
 

I could not agree with you more....They are atrocious! A complete embarrassment to The Villages. Seems like all the focus and money is going into Fenney and they are ignoring what's here.

Boy do I agree..... honestly I sometimes play an 18 hole 4500 yard course in PA literally maintained by a farmer that costs $11.00 to play.... their green are better than these.... if these incompetents are not removed then the Villages has duped their residents.... most are not fit to putt on...extremely disappointing....will ultimately impact home values... sets a new standard for mediocrity

Can you believe the villages charges a guest $14 to play a executive course when you guys are done with that round I bet your guest is not your friend anymore .

FIVE more days and many wonderful seasonal residents and property owners who pay taxes and amenity fees year 'round and enjoy being here in high season will go home and take their guests. Less feet. Easier on greens. YES.

Reduced traffic is not going to fix these greens. They are worse than any previous years and the traffic volume is consistent with last year. Course maintenance is the issue.

I paid $15 for my guest the other day at Okeechobee And, of course, my granddaughter rode with me in my cart. BTW, she plays on her HS team and beat me by a stroke from the gold tees. Her only comment was that the greens were difficult and hard. A number of shots hit the green and rolled to the back or off. The traps looked like a gorilla had walked through a couple of them and I fixed several ball marks that were not mine.

I keep hearing “tee times are hard to get” but I just don’t find it to be a big problem. :ho:

Just waiting for July.

If price and availability is your only criteria of what constitutes "good" golf conditions, then feel free to play in my driveway for just $2. No golf cart needed.

If you want a well-maintained golf course - even if it's not pristine, then you SHOULD be able to get it, since that's supposedly what some of your amenity fees are paying for.

The difficulty of getting tee times is a function of how many are in the group, the average number of points, the number of candidate courses, and the time window. If you are a foursome with zero points you can probably play any course when you want to. If you are a group of 32 with an average of 3 points then you will probably only be able to get the northern courses or the 4 courses south of Route 44 if you want to play in the morning.

KEEP RAINING................great medicine for the courses.

That's the biggest problem that everyone's missing. Too bad the courses aren't getting enough water from all the tears.
Steve

Easy now...…………………………..

I would be in favor of closing two per month and let them rest & repair. 12 months of play is tough on them.


Up North, courses got winter rest.