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Bosoxfan 03-07-2019 01:42 PM

Golf Cart Access From Wildwood
 
I just witnessed a short parade of 4 golf carts from Wildwood entering The Villages.They come in on the grass hill around the pond at the intersection of 44a and Powell road.. I've seen this in the past and called Community Watch and they said they'd be taking care of it😞
I know when the Villages were considering purchasing and developing the land that is now Trailwinds one of the reasons they backed out was Wildwood demanded cart access.. Any one have suggestions on who to contact concerning this issue?l

Two Bills 03-07-2019 01:47 PM

I suppose you could start with the police and see if they are interested. The carts must have crossed/trespassed somewhere they should not.
Mind you if there is a way to open Trailwinds to carts and TV, I will use it!!

Bosoxfan 03-07-2019 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1630793)
I suppose you could start with the police and see if they are interested. The carts must have crossed/trespassed somewhere they should not.
Mind you if there is a way to open Trailwinds to carts and TV, I will use it!!

Yes they trespasses as soon as their tires were on Villages property

Bogie Shooter 03-07-2019 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1630793)
I suppose you could start with the police and see if they are interested. The carts must have crossed/trespassed somewhere they should not.
Mind you if there is a way to open Trailwinds to carts and TV, I will use it!!

Be careful what you ask for.....that would be a two way access.

Bogie Shooter 03-07-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1630792)
I just witnessed a short parade of 4 golf carts from Wildwood entering The Villages.They come in on the grass hill around the pond at the intersection of 44a and Powell road.. I've seen this in the past and called Community Watch and they said they'd be taking care of it😞
I know when the Villages were considering purchasing and developing the land that is now Trailwinds one of the reasons they backed out was Wildwood demanded cart access.. Any one have suggestions on who to contact concerning this issue?l

Call a board member of that CCD.
BTW were these returning Villager’s?

bagboy 03-07-2019 02:10 PM

Maybe they were Villagers returning from somewhere. I'd call the district office first.

Village Community Development Districts

gomsiepop 03-07-2019 02:30 PM

I wish I could be anonymous with this post but here goes anyway. We are not an elite group of homeowners. How would you prohibit cars from out of the area access to The Villages? I think the previous posts are a bit extreme IMO which by the way I'm entitled to!

EdFNJ 03-07-2019 02:54 PM

You sure they weren't street legal carts? I drive Powell to 301 as well as up BV to 44A and onto Powell all the time in my S.L. G.C, and also cross 44 over to Sparr and my cart dealer as well. I can even drive up 466A if I make the left off Powell towards 301 then up because speed limit is 35 or under over there.

Aside from that, is there anything that makes golf carts on "Villages Property" only open to Villages residents? Never heard that but I guess it's possible.

And finally, why is something that needs to be reported? It's not like they are coming to take over the BOGO booze happy hour at the squares. It's just a golf cart unless they have machine guns mounted on top. :D :D

EdFNJ 03-07-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gomsiepop (Post 1630805)
I wish I could be anonymous with this post but here goes anyway. We are not an elite group of homeowners.

LOL, it seems we are. :D

spring_chicken 03-07-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1630794)
Yes they trespasses as soon as their tires were on Villages property

So you're saying that anyone who doesn't live in the villages is trespassing as soon as their tires (cart or car?) touch a public street (that is owned by the county) in TV?
:ohdear:

Bogie Shooter 03-07-2019 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1630809)
You sure they weren't street legal carts? I drive Powell to 301 as well as up BV to 44A and onto Powell all the time in my S.L. G.C, and also cross 44 over to Sparr and my cart dealer as well. I can even drive up 466A if I make the left off Powell towards 301 then up because speed limit is 35 or under over there.

Aside from that, is there anything that makes golf carts on "Villages Property" only open to Villages residents? Never heard that but I guess it's possible.

And finally, why is something that needs to be reported? It's not like they are coming to take over the BOGO booze happy hour at the squares. It's just a golf cart unless they have machine guns mounted on top. :D :D

How do you legally cross 44, isn't the 45MPH?
Further, I pay for the cart paths, outsiders do not.

ColdNoMore 03-07-2019 06:25 PM

Elitism personified?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gomsiepop (Post 1630805)
I wish I could be anonymous with this post but here goes anyway. We are not an elite group of homeowners. How would you prohibit cars from out of the area access to The Villages? I think the previous posts are a bit extreme IMO which by the way I'm entitled to!

Exactly! :thumbup:

There is currently nothing stopping someone from bringing their cart into The Villages through places like Southern Trace/Spanish Springs/Brownwood/Etc., on a trailer, unloading it...and driving anywhere they want. :shrug:

Unless of course, 'Da Family' decides that every homeowner cart must be registered (like boats/cars/motorcycles) and that registration is prominently displayed...so as to identify any non-Village homeowner carts.

Even with that requirement, if a non-registered cart was seen...what then? :oops:

Call the MMP police and their V-8 powered (Quietech/EFI of course)...golf carts? :1rotfl:

Orrrr, build a wall completely around TV, not allow any public/non-Villager vehicles of any kind...and make Lake/Sumter/Marion counties pay for it? :D

And yes, I know, most of the roads are owned/maintained...by the counties.

After all, it's not like the additional 'damage' done to MMP's/roads from whatever minuscule % of non-Villager carts that managed to get here...could ever be measured. :ohdear:



:popcorn:

ColdNoMore 03-07-2019 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1630818)
How do you legally cross 44, isn't the 45MPH?
Further, I pay for the cart paths, outsiders do not.

And all county taxpayers...help pay for 'most' of our roads. :oops:

So I guess as long as a non-Villager didn't use the MMP's with their golf cart and just stayed on the neighborhood (and those like Morse, north of 466) roads...you would be OK with that?

Bruce zapolski 03-07-2019 06:31 PM

Did they go thru your yard????

ColdNoMore 03-07-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce zapolski (Post 1630862)
Did they go thru your yard????

Probably not, given the amount of other people's dog's poop in the yard...needed to navigate around. :1rotfl:

Bruce zapolski 03-07-2019 06:42 PM

Did they go thru your yard????

Bruce zapolski 03-07-2019 06:49 PM

If they didn’t go Thur you’re yard who cares... What’s next stop them from going to the town square..

Arctic Fox 03-07-2019 08:41 PM

Every now and then there's a post that makes me ashamed to be a Villager

biker1 03-07-2019 08:58 PM

Someone else’s post is somehow a reflection on you ? I am not sure I follow that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1630897)
Every now and then there's a post that makes me ashamed to be a Villager


EdFNJ 03-07-2019 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1630818)
How do you legally cross 44, isn't the 45MPH?
Further, I pay for the cart paths, outsiders do not.


A LSV of any kind (like a street legal Golf cart) can legally CROSS at a traffic signal any road but can't drive on it if it is over 35mph as long as the other side of the road where you are crossing to is also a 35mph or less road. A LSV can DRIVE ON any road that is 35mph or less unless SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED by the jurisdiction.

I can legally cross over 441, 44, 466A, 466 etc.

EdFNJ 03-07-2019 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1630818)
Further, I pay for the cart paths, outsiders do not.

I never said we didn't pay for them but where does it say "outsiders" are NOT PERMITTED to use them? If it's against our ordinances then I'd agree but somehow I doubt that it is. How they get to the paths is another issue but nothing to do with who pays for them or who "owns" them.

Polar Bear 03-07-2019 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1630792)
...Any one have suggestions on who to contact concerning this issue?l

What issue?

Two Bills 03-08-2019 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1630797)
Be careful what you ask for.....that would be a two way access.

Can't see the problem. The whole Wildwood population already has access to TV!
Anyone can come in with a car, bicycle, skateboard, roller skates, even walk if so inclined.
I would just like to go to Trailwinds in my golf cart.
Nothing would change, except all villagers could access Trailwinds by cart, instead of getting car out each time they wish to shop there.

aninjamom 03-08-2019 07:00 AM

I must admit that I don't know; who else besides Villagers would have golf carts in this area? They are an expensive toy...

photo1902 03-08-2019 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aninjamom (Post 1630953)
I must admit that I don't know; who else besides Villagers would have golf carts in this area? They are an expensive toy...

There are areas just outside of The Villages where golf carts are allowed. Fruitland Park is but one example. On the Wildwood side, quite a few people have them.

Thehammer 03-08-2019 07:31 AM

I live in Alden bungalows and see them drive by in the grass every weekend. My fence borders 44A and I can see clearly they are driving on the grass to get to The Villages golf cart path. Personally I don’t think it’s right. They can drive their cars to the town squares.

skip0358 03-08-2019 08:22 AM

There's a saying from Sgt. Schultz " I SEE NOTHING " also " PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW STONES" I see our carts going places & doing things all the time. We don't belong at Lowe's on 466a, we don't belong at my Dentist on 441 across from Walmart,we don't belong at Best Buy etc. Not my job & not my concern.

Bosoxfan 03-08-2019 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomsiepop (Post 1630805)
I wish I could be anonymous with this post but here goes anyway. We are not an elite group of homeowners. How would you prohibit cars from out of the area access to The Villages? I think the previous posts are a bit extreme IMO which by the way I'm entitled to!

Quote:

Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1630812)
So you're saying that anyone who doesn't live in the villages is trespassing as soon as their tires (cart or car?) touch a public street (that is owned by the county) in TV?
:ohdear:

This is not about cars.Golf cart access to the squares and multimodal paths should be for Villagers only. Cars of course can travel the streets of the villages they are public.

Bosoxfan 03-08-2019 09:41 AM

So as a lot of you would have it we should just let everyone and anyone use our amenities ( yes multimodals are part of our amenities) even if they haven't contributed to their upkeep. What's next ? Executive golf courses...recreation centers. Come On folks we all pay for these priveledges.

spring_chicken 03-08-2019 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1631004)
This is not about cars.Golf cart access to the squares and multimodal paths should be for Villagers only. Cars of course can travel the streets of the villages they are public.

"Should be" is your opinion. You said they are trespassing. They are not.

photo1902 03-08-2019 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1631025)
"Should be" is your opinion. You said they are trespassing. They are not.

My issue is how they are gaining golf cart access to The Villages, if they don't live here. If in fact carts are cutting through grass common areas, I do have an issue with that.

Bosoxfan 03-08-2019 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1631025)
"Should be" is your opinion. You said they are trespassing. They are not.

I believe they are doing something wrong. They are using paths that they don't contribute to the upkeep of.

Arctic Fox 03-08-2019 12:50 PM

I am very grateful to the people who upgraded and maintain the golf cart path between Aldi and WalMart near 441, towards which I have contributed nothing.

Maybe if there was more give and take in this World...

graciegirl 03-08-2019 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1631047)
I am very grateful to the people who upgraded and maintain the golf cart path between Aldi and WalMart near 441, towards which I have contributed nothing.

Maybe if there was more give and take in this World...

AND more people respectful of rules.

Yes, I was raised Catholic. ;)

Chi-Town 03-08-2019 12:58 PM

I also agree that it's not OK. The argument that it is just a few is short sighted.

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Nucky 03-08-2019 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1631041)
I believe they are doing something wrong. They are using paths that they don't contribute to the upkeep of.

They are doing something wrong Bosoxfan. Your post and observation are fine. I have no dog directly in this fight because I don't know where the problem spot is but I take the spirit of what people say as they are not in a court of law being cross-examined by F Lee Nobody! They are on a Forum which lets us vent but without pointing this out to a person in charge Nada will change.

I wonder how in certain new areas restriction to only Villagers on the Cart Path will be controlled? Should be entertaining to speculate on that issue also! :ohdear:

Congratulations on the move, wish you the best!

VApeople 03-08-2019 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1630948)
I would just like to go to Trailwinds in my golf cart.
Nothing would change, except all villagers could access Trailwinds by cart, instead of getting car out each time they wish to shop there.

Why is "getting car out each time they wish to shop there" any harder than getting the golf cart out to go shopping?

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-08-2019 05:05 PM

In the OP, Bosoxfan specifies they're accessing the paths by first driving on the grass. Another poster says he's seen golf carts driving on the grass near Alden Bungalows. I think -this- should be the issue, more than anyone making use of the designated paths. Our combined fees pay a small fortune for the design and upkeep of our public areas. Golf carts rolling over the grassy areas and basically creating their own access path will destroy all that work, and require repair that is just as costly. I'm not even a "lawn" fan, but I at least have enough respect for the fact that this community is built around lawns, to not want to destroy that which our communal fees pay for. What I do with MY personal lawn - should be the limit of my authority. For someone who doesn't live in the villages to change what happens to "our" lawn should be a pretty big deal.

Bogie Shooter 03-08-2019 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1631047)
I am very grateful to the people who upgraded and maintain the golf cart path between Aldi and WalMart near 441, towards which I have contributed nothing.

Maybe if there was more give and take in this World...

But, you do have to go thru a pass gate,,,,,,when the gate isn’t broken.

coffeebean 03-09-2019 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1630812)
So you're saying that anyone who doesn't live in the villages is trespassing as soon as their tires (cart or car?) touch a public street (that is owned by the county) in TV?
:ohdear:

I''m aware the county is responsible for the roads within The Villages but does the county also own the cart paths? I thought our HOA maintains the cart paths and the bridges. No???


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