Modifications to existing bridges and overpasses.
 

To tag or not to tag...that is one question.


Design so that no one can toss anything, of size, over the sides...is another.


GO!



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I'm all for fencing, and as mentioned previously there are attractive alternatives to unadorned chain link. Here are some examples:

6 Decorated Chain Link Fences | Curbly

If you do a google search on images for "chain link fence art" you can see some pretty amazing stuff. Some, tacky. Some, lacking the Villages vibe. But the fact remains - fences don't have to be ugly or boring, just because they're made out of metal wire.

Wasn’t this covered in great detail on this thread??
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...8/index10.html

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I think any new golf cart bridges...should be tastefully enclosed/fenced.

Something similar to these, with maybe a little more artistic decoration...would add a lot of safety IMHO.

http://www.nevadadot.com/Home/ShowPu...77071726670000

http://infrastructureemily.com/wp-co...0/IMG_0045.jpg

Probably should be talking to the State since they approve the specs on what goes over their roads if you are that concerned.

While it was very sad, why, just because one obviously sick person did herself in, should they ugly up our bridges? Can't protect everyone from themselves unless we all walk around in locked padded steel bubbles. If someone wants to off themselves they will find a way to do it. This isn't like NYC where people throw bricks at cars off a bridge. She could have just as easily thrown herself in front of a car or train or pulled a fake gun on a cop.

I agree that if someone is set on killing themselves, they will find a way...usually with a gun.

To me, the issue of having a high barrier on the sides of golf cart/pedestrian/bicycle bridges...has nothing to do with stopping suicides.

It's about keeping people from throwing, or losing, anything off of those bridges...that could affect the traffic below.

Get Your Snow Blowers Ready! It's Going To Snow In The Villages Tomorrow! Maybe Hell Is Going To Freeze Over! Good Job CNM! Those are the images I had in mind but was having trouble finding them to post. Like the look or not it would stop someone who is just wasted or has ongoing problems and may do something dopey like the 55-year-old woman did. It would save the person with the problem from hurting someone innocent!

I give you :bigbow: a whole lot of credit. Bravo! And now I'm out on this no matter what. Done, Finito, Finished. Simple pictures like that just made me so happy. Nice way to end the day. :clap2:

http://www.funnysigns.net/files/hell-froze-over.jpg


:D

I like the top one better than the "enclosed" one that looks like a long cage.

Surely you don't think that rock throwing from bridges and the resultant damage/death doesn't occur in FL!
rocks thrown from florida bridge - Bing

I’m assuming this thread is about modifying existing and new bridges in TV?
I personally, don’t believe TV’rs are rock throwers, so
why not have gates only opened by our cards on either end, and also add cameras on the bridges.
As far as preventing suicides by jumping, there have been no definitve studies
that show that bridge fences reduce jumping deaths in a given area.

I agree with you. Most object throwing is done by teens and young males. Our males get drunk and our females too, some of them, but can't remember any object throwing off of bridges. Or any suicides like this one either in eleven years here after avidly reading everything I can about this place from every source available.

We can't protect ourselves from every dangerous thing. I do believe in vaccination and in seat belts and in Apple Pie and the American Dream.

I rather like The Bridges Of Madison County design.
Wont stop the suicidal, but their last look, would be more aesthetic.

But some of them have some very problematic children and the next golf cart bridge is going to be over a major interstate highway. A bottle or rock thrown over a road with cars traveling in excess of 70 MPH will kill people.

It’s just not NYC it’s all over the country, you just don’t here about it. I agree should be fence to keep delinquents form killing someone. Yes it might prevent the rare suicide, i personally don’t want hit person in the road that jumped or have the person come through my windshield and kill me. Standards change, just like water towers ladders use to not have cage or padlock plate to prevent climbers.

Well, some times you need to cage the animals

I personally don't believe that quite a few TV'ers drink to excess and do stupid and impulsive things...with/while on their golf carts.


Oh wait..... :oops:

Another thing when I’m traveling and I see little Bastards on bridge, switch lanes under the bridge or slow done so I can switch lanes under the bridge. Stuff thrown off bridges had happen in every state i’ve Lived in, and being in the military I lived in quite few.

No changes necessary.

And the movie too...…………...

I wish that we were not always at the mercy of the badly behaved.

Until we are able to call a spade a spade, clearly identify the problem, i.e. the scientific method, gather facts on it and be able to talk about it in real words instead of euphemisms we will not be able to make society better.

That would certainly be in the fashion of Spanish Springs Square or closer to it. I am thinking more about avoiding the rain if they had a covered bridge.

Once does not make a trend.

Not only enclosure but how about making them wider, the one from SS to Orange Blossom and the one going into LSL is waaaaaay to narrow.

:agree: Certainly not at this point!

ABSOFREAKINGLUTELY! :boom:


The only hope is, that like the MMP's that generally get better the further south you go, 'Da Family' is slowly understanding that saving a few bucks on the amount of pavement/bridges/tunnels built...isn't worth it in the long run. :shrug:


So here's hoping that 'they' continue to remember the lessons...they should have learned by now. :thumbup:

The bridge in Brownwood is competed so if you want to see the width go take a look.

The SS to Orange Blossom is definitely very narrow. Scary if it's your first couple of times driving over it, for sure. Hazardous, I'd guess, if you were trying to walk or ride your bike over it (which is allowed).

Perhaps - at the very least - an extra 3-foot-wide strip attached to the existing bridge, that is for pedestrians and bicycles only. And -that- would be fenced on the outer side.

How would two bicycles pass in a three foot wide space? Hello.....

LOL If we don't hear about it then how do you know it happened? OKAY, then we should have 7 foot high fences along the roadways separating them from the sidewalks and MMP's as well to prevent people from running out into the roadway chasing butterflies. We should also require everyone to wear steel helmets in case a piece of space junk falls out of the sky or if a bird carrying a dead rat drops it on our head. We should also build steel cages around our homes in case a small plane crashes into one (it's happened twice in FL in the last couple weeks so it could happen to ANY of us!). Seriously now, do we have to be so fearful over everything that we need to change our environment to protect ourselves? If our time has come it's come and all the protection won't matter. Climbing a radio tower is a lot different from someone tossing a rock on our head off a bridge. One we have a choice to do or not and the other we are anonymous victims over which we have no control.

Live & enjoy your life and stop worrying about someone tossing a brick off a bridge because into your car because there is probably as much chance of that happening to any one of us as there is winning the national lottery.

I never said it didn't but I'm certainly not going to change my way of live because of the POSSIBILITY or expect the "developers" to spend millions "just in case."

Thing is, the Villages as it was in the early 2000's (when we first came to visit, before we decided to retire here), is vastly more populated now. More people, more traffic, more roads, more golf carts, more visiting grandkids and kids, more crime, more beauty, more shops, more unpleasantness, more of everything from each end of the spectrum and inbetween. There's a lot MORE than most people ever expected, when they first came here in the 1970's, 80's, 90's, and 2000's.

The way you live is already changing. The world - and the Villages, is progressing whether you choose to accept the fact or not. While there are more awesome things in the Villages than ever before, there is also a lot more unpleasant stuff. There are ways to reduce the unpleasantness. You can't eliminate it, but you certainly can reduce it.

I believe the developer has already made improvements on the "old way" of doing things, with the new areas. Wider bridges, wider golf cart/bike lanes on the main roads, better signage, superior retention pond lining and drainage, etc. So even the developer acknowledges that there is room to improve. If they hadn't, they would've used the same construction methods that they used previously.

:agree: So let’s give credit where credit is due,
and all things considered, TV is a very nice place to live!

Yes, but the Mod closed it for straying off topic and invited people to open a different thread about bridges.

Yes, but facts can ignore what's best. For example, remember when insurance figures came out stating that mammograms don't save enough lives?

Thank you kindly, for pointing out...the obvious. :thumbup:

Just as a recent incident and posted in a constructive manner. Not The Villages but a related story. So sorry for the Victim and all who knew her. Texas woman, 33, dies after large rock thrown from overpass crashes through car’s windshield

Katherine Lam By Katherine Lam | Fox News

Keila Flores, 33, was killed after a large rock thrown from an overpass crashed through the car's windshield and hit her, police said.

A Texas woman died Saturday after someone reportedly threw a large rock from a railroad overpass, hitting the car’s windshield and crushing her while her boyfriend and children sat helplessly inside the vehicle.

Keila Ruby Flores, 33, was in the car with her boyfriend, Christopher Rodriguez, and her three children when the rock came crashing through the car’s windshield about 8:40 p.m. Saturday on Interstate 35, KWTX reported. Flores was sitting in the front passenger seat at the time.


"[We were] headed back to Waco on 35 northbound, all of sudden something just strikes the window," Rodriguez told KWTX. "An explosion just comes right through the window. I didn’t know what it was. I look over and I see Keila and she is laying there unresponsive.”

Rodriguez recalled “shaking” his girlfriend to wake her up.

“She was unresponsive,” he said, adding their daughter told him to call 911.

Temple police said an unidentified person threw the rock from the railroad track overpass that landed on Flores’ vehicle.

Flores was taken to the hospital with “significant injuries.” She was pronounced dead just after 10:30 a.m. Sunday.

Can we relate this story to the recently discussed Threads? Does it make covering New Bridges any more acceptable to everyone? Just imagine if it was a family member or someone you knew.

I had a neighbor who was killed in his cart on Morse when another cart made a left turn in front of him. Other driver was blinded by the sun.
What can we do about the sun?