Hey dopey!
 

Learn to walk on the correct side of the street.
If there is a sidewalk, use it!

I am not sure what you are talking about or what you consider the correct side of the street?
But with all the adult consumption of alcohol and poor driving skills and aging community, i would only feel comfortable with walking toward the traffic coming at me.
JMHO

For every person walking there is one less car, bike, or golf car on the roads so why complain about how they are walking, how bad can they be?

:popcorn:

These threads always turn stupid
 

Even the term,"an accident," is incorrect. Almost every,"accident,"
is avoidable.

All you can truly control is what you are doing. You cannot control what the other person is doing.

As my long departed father used to say-expect them to do the stupidest possible thing because that is exactly what they are going to do.

Okay Grumpy.


Love, Sneezy.

I know what you're talking about. There has a been a woman running on Odell Circle in the golf cart lane facing traffic. But there's a sidewalk that runs the entire length of Odell on the other side of street. Why is she putting her life...and those of the people in the carts...in danger?

I was running along the multi-model by 466 this morning around 08.45, facing traffic, when a woman barrelling along in a gas cart (estimated speed 25mph) failed to move over, forcing me on to the grass (luckily it wasn't a hedge at that point).

Other times I have been on the split section of that path and carts have moved over but continued at 25+mph

Most people move over AND slow down but there are always some idiots who forget they have a steering wheel and brakes.

In some circumstances (usually if I would have no place to escape to) I run with the traffic - it gives the driver much more time to see me and take evasive action. In 40 years of running I have never been hit from behind whereas, if I hadn't jumped out of the way, I would certainly have been hit from the front on many occasions.

So, while I try to obey the "law" I adapt to take account of the (thankfully) few selfish idiots that are out there.

ALWAYS run (or walk) facing traffic.............It only takes on idiot and unfortunately, there is more than one.


Be Safe!!

I don’t take no chances, I step off on the grass or up on the curve. Ever since I had some idiot swerve over and try to hit me. I don’t give them the chance.

Don’t forget about the blind spots and sun glare in mornings and evening

Hey dopey!

Use ya blinka!

This why, we can't have nice things....

This thread is really taking off! Time to mention “dog poop” and get everyone really agitated.

I do the same thing.

If you like to walk or jog, moving to TV north of route 44 was a mistake.

If you do like to walk or jog, move to Southern Oaks where they have walking trails that do not allow golf carts. They will also have walking trails that do not even allow bikes or dogs.

That is what the OP is talking about.
I recall hearing about a woman awhile ago that was killed doing that.
One morning I rounded a corner and was surprised to come upon a woman walking her dog
in the cart lane, and there was a sidewalk available.

Ahh just another day in... MY! Paradise

Every morning I work I see a guy walking with the traffic on the MMP. One day I slowed up beside him and asked if I could give him some advice about walking against the traffic; he said "no, keep your advice to yourself". I smiled and said, "suit yourself, but when your get run over someday, remember today".

Idiot.....

LOL, quite a few never turn them off. That's worse because if you ASSume the person is turning and they don't ... wham.

Just a guess here from my own experience. Maybe the sidewalk is full of walkers on a nice morning and she would have to run into the street diamond lane with (not against) traffic to get around them? Does she stay in the diamond path when carts are coming toward her or go onto the grass until they pass? When I run (I'm a "he" not a "she") I find it very uncomfortable running on a concrete sidewalk especially where the "blocks" are sometimes dangerously raised enough to trip on and prefer blacktop which is much softer on my feet and old knees so my only WORSE option would be to run WITH traffic on the diamond lane heading down towards Mallory CC to pick up the MMP. That is worse so I go on the other side of the road and watch for oncoming GC's and if I see one go onto the grass. We are all old enough to take responsibility of our own actions and both runners/walkers and GC all drivers need to be observant.

Well that was easy to figure out.

Please pass the popcorn, thank you!
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Yes, I've seen her up on the grass as I drive by.

According to what I read of Florida pedestrian law, if a sidewalk is provided then pedestrians are "required" to use the sidewalk. If no sidewalk is provided then pedestrians can walk facing traffic. I think the debate is whether the golf cart paths alongside the roads are considered multi-modal paths or not (I believe they are not defined as multimodal paths by the Villages). I am a runner and I appreciate that concrete is very hard on knees/legs and many of us would much rather be on blacktop when that's available but that doesn't make it legal. While golf cart drivers likely have a legitimate concern with pedestrians in the golf cart paths it does amaze me how inconsiderate and unsafe many golf cart drivers are on the true multi-modal paths. Pedestrians most definitely have the right-of-way on those paths.

All the above does is establish who is at "fault" in the event of an accident. I run regularly and I experience significantly more inconsiderate golf cart drivers on multi-modal paths compared to pedestrians I've ever seen in golf cart lanes. If you want to test this, go for a 2-mile walk/run on the multi-modal path and the odds are you'll experience more than one inconsiderate golf cart driver.

I hate when people call my name and then don't have much to tell me. It makes me Grumpy.

Majority don’t use them

So you got two carts or cars meeting down or path and you will be in the middle (usually golfers speed it to next tee time) street and you want to be dead right. Why not just step,out of the way and go about you’re walk or run. What’s so hard. Usually single walkers/runners not the problem, it’s when you got 2,3 or 4 abreast yaking and not paying attention the problem.

Yep, that’s smart step out into traffic, why not go to safe side in the grass? O I might get my shoes wet?

I was walking on side walk one evening, and a runner came past in the cart lane.
I asked why they did not use sidewalk, and I was informed the concrete sidewalk is to hard on the knees, whereas ashphalt has 'give.'
So there you go!

I get it that some pedestrians are not where they should be (facing traffic, not in the middle of the path). However, none that changes the fact that pedestrians have the right of way on the multi-modal paths. The golf cart(s) can just as easily slow down and pass when safe. The same applies to golf carts passing bikes.

Which is the correct side of the street

I was driving today on a 25mph non-residential street that has no sidewalks or diamond lanes. A runner was approaching and as soon as he saw me coming about a hundred yards away, he hopped the curb to get onto the grass. There didn't happen to be any oncoming vehicles and I had more than enough room to swing out and give him a wide berth on the street, but I also gave him a small salute as we passed. He couldn't see behind him to know if I had room to move or not, or trust that I would do so, and I applaud his decision to put life and limb above the slight awkwardness and slowdown involved in momentarily hopping the curb.

So there's one good counter example. :-)

I wasn't going to reply but ....... Seriously? Obviously one would LOOK FOR TRAFFIC before stepping into the diamond lane or crossing the road plus the fact most of the way along O'Dell there are hedges, rocks, branches and dog poop right along the "grassy" side of the sidewalk so aside from wet grass (which is a serious concern for foot health as well as possibly slipping and falling and yes, as well as ruining a $180 pair of running shoes). Have you tried running along the sidewalks here at 8AM so you can EXPERIENCE it before complaining about that which you likely have no experience and have all the answers for? You know the old saying about opinions?

And a documented fact. :thumbup: Just like wet feet from RUNNING IN THE WET GRASS getting socks wet which can cause a "fungus among us." The Dangers Of Wet Socks | Foot and Ankle Doctor in St. Paul

Problems With Wet Socks

Aside from being uncomfortable, wet socks can cause a couple issue with your feet. They can lead to:

1. Sores and Blisters – Wetness can increase the friction between the foot and the sock, and if it’s not taken care of, it can lead to sores and blisters on your feet.

2. Rashes Or Athlete’s Foot – Dampness is a breeding ground for bacteria, and rashes or fungus can develop if your feet are constantly in a wet sock or shoe. Keeping your feet dry can help prevent similar issues like athlete’s foot.

3. Trench Foot – Named for soldiers whose feet were constantly exposed to cold and wet conditions, prolonged use of wet socks and shoes in the winter months can lead to damage to the skin, blood vessels and nerves in the feet. It can take months for your foot to heal, and it may never regain some sensations if damage is extreme enough.

OMG......really?....That's pulling at straws!!
Steve

For those of you who like to run, Southern Oaks has some beautiful, wide asphalt walking paths that do not allow golf carts.

Today we parked our car at the new CatTail pool, took a look at the new golf course, and went for a long walk (by our standards) on the walking path along Marsh Bend Trail. We saw plenty of golf carts, but they had to stay on the road and deal with the cars. We could walk side-by-side with no fear of being run over.

Ya think? I dare you to run (or walk) 5-7 miles a day 6 days a week with damp socks/shoes from stepping in the grass in the mornings.

Been up there (I mean down there) and it's beautiful but to drive ~11 miles down there every day is just a hassle. Nice every so often though for a change of pace (no pun intended).