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Duppa 03-31-2019 04:59 AM

Use of green space for party
 
Moving to a brand new neighborhood that features a lovely green space with trees nestled between houses... Question: Can residents use that area for block-parties? Restrictions?

kansasr 03-31-2019 11:13 AM

I would go to the Sumter County property appraiser's website (sumterpa.com) and see who actually owns the property in question.

villagetinker 03-31-2019 12:18 PM

Unless this is designated as a park (tables, trash containers, possibly a pavilion) I would highly doubt that you can use the area, you could try Villages recreation dept 352-674-1800, villages district propert management 352-753-4022, and villages district customer service, 352-753-4508.

Good luck with your quest, let us know what you find out.

Bogie Shooter 03-31-2019 12:21 PM

Have you thought about snakes, spiders and mosquitoes?

Rapscallion St Croix 03-31-2019 12:30 PM

I would not consider doing it without written permission from your district office.

ditka41 03-31-2019 01:28 PM

Hopefully, NO.
The neighbors pay a premium when selecting their lots that have a "greenspace" and did not have private parties in mind when doing so. If it happens on "our greenspace", a complaint will be made immediately. Besides, the snakes do not like to be disturbed either, and our alligator would be unhappy too. Perhaps a public park would be a better choice here.

vintageogauge 03-31-2019 02:36 PM

Greenspaces don't provide restrooms. I don't know about north of 44 but Fenney, DeSoto, and McClure all have pavilions at the neighborhood rec. centers that you can use. Some owners have driveway/garage parties.

Mleeja 03-31-2019 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ditka41 (Post 1637601)
Hopefully, NO.
The neighbors pay a premium when selecting their lots that have a "greenspace" and did not have private parties in mind when doing so. If it happens on "our greenspace", a complaint will be made immediately. Besides, the snakes do not like to be disturbed either, and our alligator would be unhappy too. Perhaps a public park would be a better choice here.

Let me know where “your” green space is located so I can schedule a golf cart meet and great there. The green spaces are paid for and maintained by all of us. You may have paid more for your lot for the privilege of living next to a green spaces, but it is not yours.

photo1902 03-31-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1637685)
Let me know where “your” green space is located so I can schedule a golf cart meet and great there. The green spaces are paid for and maintained by all of us. You may have paid more for your lot for the privilege of living next to a green spaces, but it is not yours.

You’ve nailed it.

The OP’s question reminds me of the unofficial “dog park” along Morse Blvd, just south of Hillsborough. When it comes down to it, the property is for everyone to use.

vintageogauge 03-31-2019 07:56 PM

In thinking about this, I would suggest asking the neighbors that live next to the green space after you move in and get acquainted . You sure don't want to start a new life p___ing off the neighbors as you'll not have much fun thereafter.

champion6 03-31-2019 08:25 PM

The answer is NO, you cannot use it.

<Sarcasm ON>
But remember this ... it's easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission.
<Sarcasm OFF>

ditka41 03-31-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1637685)
Let me know where “your” green space is located so I can schedule a golf cart meet and great there. The green spaces are paid for and maintained by all of us. You may have paid more for your lot for the privilege of living next to a green spaces, but it is not yours.

You must have missed the fact that I used quotes around the phase "our greenspace" or chose to ignore that. The one I referred to is totally surrounded by privately owned property and/or fenced. I assure you that a golf cart parade across private property is not welcome and will not be tolerated. The "unofficial dog park" on Morse is not fenced so assumptions are made about it without sanction.

mulligan 04-01-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1637692)
You’ve nailed it.

The OP’s question reminds me of the unofficial “dog park” along Morse Blvd, just south of Hillsborough. When it comes down to it, the property is for everyone to use.

You obviously don't understand ownership here in TV. Open spaces are mostly owned by the district. That means "private property".

justjim 04-01-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ditka41 (Post 1637601)
Hopefully, NO.
The neighbors pay a premium when selecting their lots that have a "greenspace" and did not have private parties in mind when doing so. If it happens on "our greenspace", a complaint will be made immediately. Besides, the snakes do not like to be disturbed either, and our alligator would be unhappy too. Perhaps a public park would be a better choice here.

Remember the controversy regarding the green space along Morse Blvd. that dog owners and home owners had the “big battle” a few months ago? :boxing2:

Bogie Shooter 04-01-2019 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1637685)
Let me know where “your” green space is located so I can schedule a golf cart meet and great there. The green spaces are paid for and maintained by all of us. You may have paid more for your lot for the privilege of living next to a green spaces, but it is not yours.

Nor yours to use either...……………..

Velvet 04-01-2019 11:16 AM

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photo1902 04-01-2019 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 1637791)
You obviously don't understand ownership here in TV. Open spaces are mostly owned by the district. That means "private property".

Thanks for the condescending reply. I appreciate it. I think I'm a little familiar with what open spaces mean. Again, I refer to the unofficial dog park along Morse. Isn't that "Open spaces" owned by the district? If so, why haven't they posted signs, or erected fences to keep people out? So by your logic, if you are on the MMP, and pull over on the grass to make a call, look at a map, etc, are you on "private property" and as a result, breaking the law? How about the fishing that takes place on and around the ponds here in The Villages? Is that also illegal?

VApeople 04-01-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1637802)
Remember the controversy regarding the green space along Morse Blvd. that dog owners and home owners had the “big battle” a few months ago? :boxing2:

We do not have a dog or a golf cart and we do not live near that area you mention, but I think the issue was resolved.

People were parking their carts and letting their dogs run around right behind one of the properties, so the villages management told cart and dog owners to stay off that piece of property. The cart and dog owners appealed that decision, so the management told them they could park there and keep their dogs on a leash, but to not do it near the homeowner's back yard. At least that is what we heard.

When we drive by that area, I see carts parked there and I do not see dogs off leash. They also stay well away from the homeowner. It looks like the situation was resolved.

Chi-Town 04-01-2019 12:40 PM

If one wants to use an open space to have a gathering go to a rec center pavilion, a park, or a preserve of some sort. Why inconvenience neighbors to use a property that has questionable use and access?

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pauld315 04-01-2019 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ditka41 (Post 1637720)
The "unofficial dog park" on Morse is not fenced so assumptions are made about it without sanction.

The unofficial dog park has had a lot of scrutiny the past couple years. The Villages threatened to fence it off, not because of the dogs but because the owners were driving and parking their golf carts on the field and destroying the grass. Instead, The Villages got lenient and built several golf cart parking spots next to the field so dog owners could use it without taking their carts onto the property. I shook my head the other day when I rode by there and nobody had parked their carts in the spaces and they were all down on the field with their carts. If that space gets fenced off in the future, The Villages made every effort to appease the dog owners yet some continued to abuse it.

Topspinmo 04-09-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1637941)
Thanks for the condescending reply. I appreciate it. I think I'm a little familiar with what open spaces mean. Again, I refer to the unofficial dog park along Morse. Isn't that "Open spaces" owned by the district? If so, why haven't they posted signs, or erected fences to keep people out? So by your logic, if you are on the MMP, and pull over on the grass to make a call, look at a map, etc, are you on "private property" and as a result, breaking the law? How about the fishing that takes place on and around the ponds here in The Villages? Is that also illegal?

Space paid for by bonds which residents paid for, unless somebody refunds my bond then the space is public property. You don’t own land all way to retention ponds, if it has public access and no fishing signs they can fish.

Topspinmo 04-09-2019 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1637802)
Remember the controversy regarding the green space along Morse Blvd. that dog owners and home owners had the “big battle” a few months ago? :boxing2:

Home owners did NOT own this property, can I say the noise from golfer can’t use the course behind my house? NO it not my property

Bogie Shooter 04-09-2019 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1637941)
Thanks for the condescending reply. I appreciate it. I think I'm a little familiar with what open spaces mean. Again, I refer to the unofficial dog park along Morse. Isn't that "Open spaces" owned by the district? If so, why haven't they posted signs, or erected fences to keep people out? So by your logic, if you are on the MMP, and pull over on the grass to make a call, look at a map, etc, are you on "private property" and as a result, breaking the law? How about the fishing that takes place on and around the ponds here in The Villages? Is that also illegal?

Where you can and cannot fish.
https://districtgov.org/departments/...nformation.pdf

Marathon Man 04-09-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1640180)
Space paid for by bonds which residents paid for, unless somebody refunds my bond then the space is public property. You don’t own land all way to retention ponds, if it has public access and no fishing signs they can fish.

Paying the bond does not give you ownership. It is simply fullfilling a contract that you signed when you bought your home.


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