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Fraugoofy 04-12-2019 04:32 PM

Diversity in The Villages
 
Does anyone know if The Villages attempts to attract people from all cultures? With the current stats, I would guess the answer is no. Does anyone know the real answer?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c850445b9f.jpg

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Velvet 04-12-2019 04:35 PM

The brochure for Lifestyles shows a lovely colored lady.... another question might be, does TV do anything to discourage diversity? Before someone gets offended, I really don’t know the answer.

saratogaman 04-12-2019 04:53 PM

A "colored" lady? What is that about? Maybe people are aware of such thinking and decide that this might not a receptive place to live.

CWGUY 04-12-2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1641227)
The brochure for Lifestyles shows a lovely colored lady.... another question might be, does TV do anything to discourage diversity? Before someone gets offended, I really don’t know the answer.

:what:

asianthree 04-12-2019 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1641227)
The brochure for Lifestyles shows a lovely colored lady.... another question might be, does TV do anything to discourage diversity? Before someone gets offended, I really don’t know the answer.

So not politically correct.

Villageswimmer 04-12-2019 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1641225)
Does anyone know if The Villages attempts to attract people from all cultures? With the current stats, I would guess the answer is no. Does anyone know the real answer?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c850445b9f.jpg

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TV attempts to attract anyone with the bucks. It’s a business, folks.

npwalters 04-12-2019 05:36 PM

The color The Villages attempts to attract is green. ANY individual is welcome.

billethkid 04-12-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1641244)
TV attempts to attract anyone with the bucks. It’s a business, folks.

As stated above if you like it and can afford it then you come no matter what color, religion, politics or what ever other things the diversity frenzy of the day feeds upon.

The only measure is how old and can one write the check.
Then the chips and results fall where they may.

Most likely very much like where most of us came from.

kcrazorbackfan 04-12-2019 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1641227)
The brochure for Lifestyles shows a lovely colored lady.... another question might be, does TV do anything to discourage diversity? Before someone gets offended, I really don’t know the answer.

Good lord. This is 2019; African-Americans are no longer referred to as "colored" people.

How about apologizing to people you've offended?

Velvet 04-12-2019 06:01 PM

Sorry, I’m not familiar with the term you guys use, whichever is politically correct, that’s the one I meant.

Kenswing 04-12-2019 06:07 PM

Over react much? The Villages is .40% African American. If they're offended let them speak for themselves. All this mock outrage is getting old.

Tom C 04-12-2019 06:14 PM

I have seen the THE BLUE MAN GROUP. They are great fun!

:thumbup: :boom: :22yikes: :rolleyes:

Fraugoofy 04-12-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1641238)
So not politically correct.

Exactly my point, Asian3.

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Fraugoofy 04-12-2019 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1641260)
Over react much? The Villages is .40% African American. If they're offended let them speak for themselves. All this mock outrage is getting old.

How do you know we're not?

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Bucco 04-12-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1641264)
How do you know we're not?

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Don't think he even lives here, so not sure of his knowledge base.

But in response to your inquiry in the OP, I worked for The Villages and am familiar with key players. Having said that, I would be totally shocked if The Villages did anything but market The Villages as what it is, and race or ethnicity does not enter into marketing. Green money is the color they seek.

Kenswing 04-12-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1641264)
How do you know we're not?

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If you're African American then you have every right to post your concern. If that's the case does everyone else need to be outraged for you? Velvet used "Colored" and everyone is freaking out.. I guess I'm just not that socially sensitive..

Kenswing 04-12-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1641268)
Don't think he even lives here, so not sure of his knowledge base.

Thank you for your reply..

Velvet 04-12-2019 06:36 PM

I had no idea that ‘colored’ was offensive. I am not from the US as I have mentioned in my other posts. I appreciate you bringing it to my attention.

Fraugoofy 04-12-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1641270)
If you're African American then you have every right to post your concern. If that's the case does everyone else need to be outraged for you? Velvet used "Colored" and everyone is freaking out.. I guess I'm just not that socially sensitive..

So you can only be concerned if you are what you are concerned about? Are you concerned about women who get raped even if you are a man? Are you concerned about children who are abused even if you are not a child? Your logic doesn't make sense...

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Kenswing 04-12-2019 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1641287)
So you can only be concerned if you are what you are concerned about? Are you concerned about women who get raped even if you are a man? Are you concerned about children who are abused even if you are not a child? Your logic doesn't make sense...

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Lets not get silly.. Calling someone "colored" instead of African American was an honest mistake by Violet.

If someone called me a white boy instead of caucasian would I expect you to get upset on my behalf? No I wouldn't. If I had a problem with it I would let you know myself.

I swear, if people aren't getting upset about something they're just not happy..

Fraugoofy 04-12-2019 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1641298)
Lets not get silly.. Calling someone "colored" instead of African American was an honest mistake by Violet.



If someone called me a white boy instead of caucasian would I expect you to get upset on my behalf? No I wouldn't. If I had a problem with it I would let you know myself.



I swear, if people aren't getting upset about something they're just not happy..

I wasn't upset. What did I say that made you think that?

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ColdNoMore 04-12-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogaman (Post 1641231)
A "colored" lady? What is that about? Maybe people are aware of such thinking and decide that this might not a receptive place to live.

EXACTLY! :ohdear:

graciegirl 04-12-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1641274)
I had no idea that ‘colored’ was offensive. I am not from the US as I have mentioned in my other posts. I appreciate you bringing it to my attention.

It is kind of old fashioned, but I don't see anything that would be upsetting. People are people. We are all different and we are all valuable.

Unless they break the law, want to change this lovely place, or pee in Lake Sumter, they are welcome .

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Nucky 04-12-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1641225)
Does anyone know if The Villages attempts to attract people from all cultures? With the current stats, I would guess the answer is no. Does anyone know the real answer?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c850445b9f.jpg

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Hey, Fraugoofy I looked around on the Internet and didn't find anything about The Villages trying to attract any specific brand of people. I also didn't find anything about them trying to get people of the predominant culture that is here to move here. I guess it sorta just happened but I'll bet I going to learn why from several others.

I did find a lot of information about the clubs and activities that the people who move here put together once they landed. I am white and notice remarks daily in different opinion pieces and as of late from others on television who speak unkindly of my race. I don't care. I am proud of who and what I am and nobody's words can take that from me. Velvet's comment was not meant to be hurtful in my opinion.

I am far from a racist and choose to not say why. Those who know me personally can vouge for that being true, I couldn't find a link for that either or I would post it.

Certainly being confused on thread after thread is tiresome as an excuse for stirring the pot and then acting apologetic when the explanation must be offered to straighten out the person in error.

If I'm not proud of being who I am then who would be proud for me.
We have neighbors of every race and color in our neighborhood and they are just wonderful. :clap2:

I wish I had a better answer to your question and if I see something I'll be certain to reach out and post the link. PEACE OUT!

Fraugoofy 04-12-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1641332)
Hey, Fraugoofy I looked around on the Internet and didn't find anything about The Villages trying to attract any specific brand of people. I also didn't find anything about them trying to get people of the predominant culture that is here to move here. I guess it sorta just happened but I'll bet I going to learn why from several others.



I did find a lot of information about the clubs and activities that the people who move here put together once they landed. I am white and notice remarks daily in different opinion pieces and as of late from others on television who speak unkindly of my race. I don't care. I am proud of who and what I am and nobody's words can take that from me. Velvet's comment was not meant to be hurtful in my opinion.



I am far from a racist and choose to not say why. Those who know me personally can vouge for that being true, I couldn't find a link for that either or I would post it.



Certainly being confused on thread after thread is tiresome as an excuse for stirring the pot and then acting apologetic when the explanation must be offered to straighten out the person in error.



If I'm not proud of being who I am then who would be proud for me.

We have neighbors of every race and color in our neighborhood and they are just wonderful. :clap2:



I wish I had a better answer to your question and if I see something I'll be certain to reach out and post the link. PEACE OUT!

Every person deserves to be treated with grace and dignity. Nucky, I know in my heart you do that... Fondly, Frau.

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OrangeBlossomBaby 04-12-2019 09:08 PM

Apologies to Velvet on this post that I just edited. I didn't realize she wasn't American and her understanding of derogatory terms isn't the same as ours. My post was expressing my concern for her ignorance. And now I realize it was because she is truly "not knowledgeable" of American vernacular and etymology. So again my apologies.

tophcfa 04-12-2019 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1641318)
It is kind of old fashioned, but I don't see anything that would be upsetting. People are people. We are all different and we are all valuable.

Unless they break the law, want to change this lovely place, or pee in Lake Sumter, they are welcome .

As usual, I agree with Graciegirl.

villagerjack 04-12-2019 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1641268)
Don't think he even lives here, so not sure of his knowledge base.

But in response to your inquiry in the OP, I worked for The Villages and am familiar with key players. Having said that, I would be totally shocked if The Villages did anything but market The Villages as what it is, and race or ethnicity does not enter into marketing. Green money is the color they seek.

When you worked what color was the money you sought ?

gomsiepop 04-13-2019 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1641256)
Sorry, I’m not familiar with the term you guys use, whichever is politically correct, that’s the one I meant.

Lighten up everyone. I'm sure this person meant to say "people of color"

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Taltarzac725 04-13-2019 08:17 AM

We have been here in the Villages since June of 2005 and have met people of many different ethnic groups. The Villages does seem overall Anglo American in make-up but there are many employees or workers-- especially in the medical fields-- who are from all over the world. A lot of these workers live in areas around the Villages and maybe even here in the Villages if 55 or over or if they have a member of their family 55 or over.

My sister-in-law is from Jamaica and would start up conversations at I-Hop with strangers. As well as at other places here in the Villages.

thetruth 04-13-2019 08:21 AM

You have nothing to apologize for
 
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1641256)
Sorry, I’m not familiar with the term you guys use, whichever is politically correct, that’s the one I meant.

Sadly, today, out comes the RACE CARD on far too many subjects.
The accusation is overused to the point that it is meaningless.
My point, politically correct point-I hope. The term racist has been used soooooo often that it is about as meaningless as the term-awesome.

Calling someone racist is effective because you've already judged them guilty. Any reply is the same as a reply to the question, do you still beat your wife.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-13-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1641433)
We have been here in the Villages since June of 2005 and have met people of many different ethnic groups. The Villages does seem overall Anglo American in make-up but there are many employees or workers-- especially in the medical fields-- who are from all over the world. A lot of these workers live in areas around the Villages and maybe even here in the Villages if 55 or over or if they have a member of their family 55 or over.

My sister-in-law is from Jamaica and would start up conversations at I-Hop with strangers. As well as at other places here in the Villages.

This is a very important point, I think, one that hasn't been mentioned yet.

Summary: The Villages *residency* is primarily white. But the Villages is not JUST homes, it is commercial space, the town squares, tons and tons of public space where people from outside the Villages come to work, shop, and even dance.

Odds are, you'll run into people of all races and hues and accents and cultures while you're out and about, and that, in my opinion, can only be a marvelous thing!

Mikeod 04-13-2019 08:57 AM

One of the attractive facets of this community is the wide spread in the price of housing. I could see where a community with homes starting in 7 figures could effectively hinder ethnic diversity. But I don’t see that here. There really is a home for everyone. Another is that I find few villagers who judge fellow residents by the house they own, or their former occupation, or their income.

The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors.

ColdNoMore 04-13-2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1641457)
One of the attractive facets of this community is the wide spread in the price of housing. I could see where a community with homes starting in 7 figures could effectively hinder ethnic diversity. But I don’t see that here. There really is a home for everyone. Another is that I find few villagers who judge fellow residents by the house they own, or their former occupation, or their income.

The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors.


I totally concur that in a perfect world, that's the way...it SHOULD be. :thumbup:

I have to admit to being shocked though, when occasionally being around a number of friends and fellow golfers in small groups, who would otherwise never publicly make such statements in larger groups, have expressed some very racist/bigoted/xenophobic/misogynistic views...when they think they're among 'like-minded' others (making the grave mistake that I'm one who shares those views). :ohdear:

We even see the occasional post here, of those who come right out and say that the main reason they moved here...is specifically because of the lack of diversity. :oops:

The good news is that there's proof the younger generations have shown to be much less inclined to be this way and as our age group dies off and the "young'ins" reach retirement age...maybe things will change for the better.
:ho:

graciegirl 04-13-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1641457)
One of the attractive facets of this community is the wide spread in the price of housing. I could see where a community with homes starting in 7 figures could effectively hinder ethnic diversity. But I don’t see that here. There really is a home for everyone. Another is that I find few villagers who judge fellow residents by the house they own, or their former occupation, or their income.

The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors.

Well said.

villagerjack 04-13-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1641457)
One of the attractive facets of this community is the wide spread in the price of housing. I could see where a community with homes starting in 7 figures could effectively hinder ethnic diversity. But I don’t see that here. There really is a home for everyone. Another is that I find few villagers who judge fellow residents by the house they own, or their former occupation, or their income.

The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors.

You make a well informed point, seldom if ever noted. Folks ask me why I bought homes in “ Over 55” Communities and they are surprised at my answer. It is not about the golf other activities it is about the lack of any class structure. I played golf with maintenance men and once with a 4 star General and the mother of a big movie star. The men both looked alike and acted the same. The woman was fun to be with. Men Even dressed the same. I joke that a Village resident could hold up a bank at 9AM and not miss a Tee Time at 9:53. Law Enforcement would be out looking for an older man with grey or no hair, wearing golf shorts and shirt, a ball cap and sneakers. Good luck to them.

JoMar 04-13-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1641464)

I totally concur that in a perfect world, that's the way...it SHOULD be. :thumbup:

I have to admit to being shocked though, when occasionally being around a number of friends and fellow golfers in small groups, who would otherwise never publicly make such statements in larger groups, have expressed some very racist/bigoted/xenophobic/misogynistic views...when they think they're among 'like-minded' others (making the grave mistake that I'm one who shares those views). :ohdear:

We even see the occasional post here, of those who come right out and say that the main reason they moved here...is specifically because of the lack of diversity. :oops:



The good news is that there's proof the younger generations have shown to be much less inclined to be this way and as our age group dies off and the "young'ins" reach retirement age...maybe things will change for the better.
:ho:

:bigbow:

villagerjack 04-13-2019 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1641464]
I totally concur that in a perfect world, that's the way...it SHOULD be. :thumbup:

I have to admit to being shocked though, when occasionally being around a number of friends and fellow golfers in small groups, who would otherwise never publicly make such statements in larger groups, have expressed some very racist/bigoted/xenophobic/misogynistic views...when they think they're among 'like-minded' others (making the grave mistake that I'm one who shares those views). :ohdear:

We even see the occasional post here, of those who come right out and say that the main reason they moved here...is specifically because of the lack of diversity. :oops:

The good news is that there's proof the younger generations have shown to be much less inclined to be this way and as our age group dies off and the "young'ins" reach retirement age...maybe things will change for the better.
:ho:[/QUOTE

The world as seen through a pair of dark colored glasses. Usually by people who think they are the only one that really cares. Everyone else is a bigot.


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