Younger workers not happy with older workers?
 

Interesting.:popcorn:


Poll: Some younger workers view aging workforce negatively (poke here)

When I was younger I was never happy having to go to work. I am surprised they could pole enough younger workers to have pole

What, the young ones don't want to have to keep up with the high standards work ethic of the older workers?

I'm just guessing here, but I don't think they only asked...those working in strip clubs. :D

I don't know why anyone would care about what comes off the corrupt and childishly stupid AP newswire.

They should have asked the employers; the opinion of the ones I know is that it is very difficult to find younger workers who actually want to put in time and effort at a job, or even commit to showing up every day.

Each age group is advocating for themselves, this is news?

Old people are old.

Just another version of the “Divide and Conquer” mentality that permeates lots of things.

Sit at a bargaining table to try to negotiate for a fair contract for teachers and watch the other side encourage ageism. Getting the young teachers to see the experienced teachers as the enemy is often way too easy.

My guess is that is often true in other contract negotiations, too. “Divide and Conquer” is an old, classic, and oh so obvious maneuver when money is driving the bus and throwing experience under that bus is usually a part of the opposition’s game. Experience costs more, but the ROI is often not considered.

Ageism in America is nothing new. It is a complex, cultural issue. Sometimes it is subconscious, but often ageism is weaponized for selfish purposes.

(Even though there are, of course, circumstances when older people really should step down, painting with a wide brush is never a good thing. The ability to see others as individuals is being rapidly lost.

‘Dehumanization’ is one of the ugliest words in our language and we are now witness to more and more of exactly that, some ways more overt than others.)

I don't know where I stand on this and it's not high on my list of things that I care about.

But one thing that I thought of is if people who are of retirement age and are able to retire comfortably decide to keep working, they are taking a job that a younger person could take thereby increasing the unemployment numbers.

Agree.


Unemployment numbers are so low right now, most companies are struggling to find quality people right now.

My brother and I grew up close to two brothers who went on to become an oral surgeon and an attorney. Their parents both worked for the local newspaper, the father a Linotype operator at night and the mother an editor during the day. The parents were very hard workers and inspired an admirable work ethic in their children. The oral surgeon told me that when his mother retired the paper needed two younger employees to accomplish all she did.

Many jobs older folks take younger folks don't want. Walmart greeter and gate attendant at a retirement community come to mind.

and got old by being smart:boxing2:

Using a very broad brush to generalize, the millennial generation is the "I want it and I want it NOW" generation, having grown up with helicopter parents and 7th place trophies. Contrast that to boomers that exemplified delayed gratification, worked at something from age 12 or 14 through retirement, often working at only one or two companies throughout their adult lifetime. The delusion that older people are standing in their way as they try to move (or jump) up the ladder to success is just more folly and consistent with the entitlement attitude. 7th place results don;t get one anything in corporate America. Buckle up ! You might actually have to miss one of your kids soccer games and work past 430 !!

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Hey, pole dancer’s are hard workers, the deserve to be poled.

Well, if they can pole the pole dancers, they should include the Formula1 and MotoGP drivers. And what is the average age of retirement of a judge or a senator? Or President?

One of my cousins is 74 or 75 I believe and still works. She and her husband were typical middle class, non-college educated working people who were setting aside a retirement savings nest egg. He didn't believe in life insurance for what ever reason, I guess believing he would live well past retirement age and accumulate a reasonable amount of savings. Well he died in his late 50's and my cousin had no choice but to keep on working. Their savings weren't enough for her to live off of even with social security so she needs a job that fills the gap. She doesn't work because she is bored, she works to have enough money in order to get by.

Excellent post...and perspective. :thumbup:

Predidcted by me years ago
 

Age wars.
We all think we are right.
I saw one poster and obvious retired teacher used the term fair contract. Fair to who? We are the people who paid for the contract by TAXES PAID. A teacher will claim income. Income does not count the fact that they do not work 52 weeks a year or the value of the pension, medical care etc. Oh and the money to pay you came from my pocket. My ability to save to pay MY BILLS now that I am retired and living not on a pension but on savings that were taxed before being saved and are taxed yet again on stock dividends or bond interest.
An age forced retirement age. The concept came about when FDR put in social security. Retiring people at 65 opened up jobs, that were is short supply during the depression, for others unemployed.
Perhaps, how we got here expecting government to manage things. My view on this issue. Our current tax system was drawn to discourage people from being on social security and working.
With a labor shortage, perhaps as in WWII the nation made it heroic for woman to work and then when the war ended expected lucy the riveter to quit and give her job to a man.
A bit of public relations and tax adjustment and the US could discover an unseen labor force to fill our labor shortage.
Fair, a term we regularly use is not at all clear. It always depends on who is looking at the issue AND FEW DARE TO SEE THE FACTS.

The big elephant in the room that does not seem to be seen yet in this thread is that many people have to work longer than they want to because they need to hold on to group health insurance for themselves and/or their spouse until age 65 for Medicare.

Take teachers, for example. How long a teacher works often depends on the amount of pension they would get on retirement. Fifteen years ago many teachers retired at age 55 in my district, 10 years ago many retired at age 60, today the average age of retirement is over 65. People are living longer, in my district 3 times as many are over age 100 as compared to 15 years ago. People are concerned that they do not outlive their pension. I’ve often heard the comment, “teach 30 years, retire for 35”.

GREAT thanks :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot: