voyage driverless suv/van
 

Does anyone have any current information on the status of the Voyage driverless suv/van?

I went to meeting a few weeks ago at Eisenhower where the CEO of Voyage talked about the status of the project.

(Voyage Self Driving Car-a.pdf - Google Drive)

While they are making progress, they still have a ways to go, for example he talked about how the car was going down one of the roads and got confused by a shadow of a palm tree in the roads.

I think most people feel that they would never get into one of those things until they are 100% safe. Well, my answer to that is they get into cars with drivers that look at their phones, play with the radio, talk to people in the back of the car (looking back as they do). None of that is "safe". Over 39,000 people die in car crashes each year. IF the Voyage could reduce that by a third (or more), then we would save a lot of lives. There are a lot of stupid drivers out there, we can't fix them, but if the car does something the programers didn't expect, then they can correct the code.

thank you joel johnson for your informative reply. don't like driving in the villages anymore & am looking for alternatives. i will be checking voyage website to see how they are progressing.

One was seen going around a Round-a-bout for days since it couldn’t figure out how to exit 😉😉😉😉

It will be many many years before self driving cars become widespread and safe. The problems associated with a self driving are several order of magnitude higher than developing auto pilots for airplanes which people like to use for comparison.

In addition to the software not responding correctly to environmental factors such as road design, lighting conditions, snow, rain, wind blown debris and erratic village drivers, there is also the problem of hacking that must be solved before self driving cars are common place.

The computer revolution is approximately, 60 years old now and industry still cannot prevent hackers from attacking critical infrastructure 100% of the time. I, for one, do not want to die at the hands of a pimply-faced teenage nerd!

Couldn't figure out whether to use a turn signal or not....

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Does it stop for police cars? Who pays the tickets? Does it blow the horn if it doesn't like another driver? So many questions....

Back in February when they were first testing it here in TV, I passed it on the Morse Road Bridge. Appeared to only go the posted speed limit, and took the round-a-bout slowly. Saw it again on Rolling Acres a couple of weeks later, with a driver behind the wheel.

According to the CEO of Voyage, the car will not break any laws, so it should stop for the police.

RDE3036, these "pimply-faced teenage nerds" are really middle age men and women with years of experience, but I gress you would rather risk your life with some driver that has been drinking or on drugs and you don't know it. A few years ago an airline pilot was stopped from flying because someone though he had been drinking, he was drunk.

As far as "hacking" goes, I asked the CEO what operating system they used, he said Linux, while hacking a Linux system is not impossible, it is extremely rare.

Oh, by the way, the governor signed a bill that allows for self driving cars to not need a driver starting on July 1st.

Given the computer revolution is about 60 years old it should not surprise you that many of those pimply-faced nerds are now your neighbors.

And as one of those former teenaged nerds I hate to tell you but you have been putting your life in our hands for decades.

I am not so patiently waiting for Voyage to extend the service to my neighborhood. I’d be happy to use it.

... and does it stop at an exit gate and signal golf carts to cross in front of it?

One of the biggest waste of money these days worldwide. Self driving cars that is.

Hacking a Linux system is no harder than hacking any other operating system. The reason it is not done often is because hacker's write malware to attack the most common system which is currently Windows. Linux is used on a relatively small number of of computer systems. That will change if self driving cars or other products are equipped with Linux. The bigger the population of Linux systems the bigger the target for malware.

So tell me what software you and your friends have written that results in my life being in your hands for decades? I'm interested in hearing about your background.

Most of the web is run on Linux, IBM uses Linux, Microsoft uses Linux, Largo, FL uses Linux for their email system and have yet to get a virus. Yes, Linux can be hacked, but, it is extremely rare because of two reasons, 1) it is a small market and (more importantly) 2) it is difficult to get past the built in security features. I have yet to hear of a Linux system getting hacked, it might have happened, but in all the research I do on Linux, I haven't found it.

My friends and I have been working on communications services, including 911 services, and building the back bone of the internet since we were fresh faced kids out of college working for startups. Nothing like being called in the middle of the night because some activated the burn hotline before we finished testing the equipment to get your adrenaline going.

Search the web for "Linux Malware" and you will find many articles of hacked Linux systems.

Here is a recent one:

New HiddenWasp malware found targeting Linux systems | ZDNet

The National Vulnerability Database run by the US government lists over 7,000 vulnerabilities in Linux.

NVD - Results

Not all of these vulnerabilities have been found in the wild, but almost all of them were found by successfully hacking a Linux system, hopefully by someone wearing a white hat.

I for one will never use a driverless car nor use an ATM nor use a computer nor a cell phone I won't even watch TV. I just don't trust these newfangled things. I am happy to stay in the dark ages

Being called in the middle of the night seems to standard in the software world.
I worked in software development for a medical device manufacturer and worked primarily on medical imaging scanners (CR, DR and CAT scanners). When the machines failed the field service people were called and if they couldn't fix it they called the Electrical and/or Software engineers. Always late at night!

Anyone find it interesting that Ford, Chevrolet are getting out of the car business (ok, Corvettes and Mustangs excluded_ and focusing on electric and autonomous vehicles? Foreign makers haven't announced stopping auto production but have announced focus on electric and autonomous vehicles. I think they are coming to the conclusion that us old folks are going to die and their market will be the more environmental and multitasking generation. The autonomous vehicle allows texting and talking via electronic devices which will be a huge advantage for the multi tasking generations. We are no longer a market.

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No exactly true. That are getting out of the sedan business because SUVs are so popular. Mustangs and Corvettes are a couple of the exceptions. Electric and autonomous vehicles are still "autos".

Linux is used on the systems that do most of the heavy lifting that you never see. It is the OS on the entertainment systems on aircraft. It is ubiquitous.