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Mistybuffy3 07-14-2019 07:22 AM

Gas and electric
 
My tenant is moving out mid August and I will be there in oct for week then dec, my question is this, I will be changing over elec to my name, and gas also, should I turn the gas off until I’m there?

Rango 07-14-2019 08:02 AM

No.

Toymeister 07-14-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mistybuffy3 (Post 1664082)
My tenant is moving out mid August and I will be there in oct for week then dec, my question is this, I will be changing over elec to my name, and gas also, should I turn the gas off until I’m there?

Here is a more descriptive answer than you have received this far.

If your question is will any harm come to my property if I turn off the gas, no.

If the question is does it make much financial sense to pay the service fee for having gas service for two months, then it only depends if the switch over fee is significantly lower than restarting it plus two months of service fee.

anothersteve 07-14-2019 09:54 AM

Is there a shut off to isolate the gas coming into the house? If so you could shut that off if you are really worried about a gas leak while away. I know in NY that was code to isolate appliances for work or service.
Steve

retiredguy123 07-14-2019 10:04 AM

I would leave it on.

coffeebean 07-14-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1664114)
Is there a shut off to isolate the gas coming into the house? If so you could shut that off if you are really worried about a gas leak while away. I know in NY that was code to isolate appliances for work or service.
Steve

Our main gas shut off valve is in our attic.....easily accessible. I'm not sure there is a gas shut off outside the house. I've never seen one.

retiredguy123 07-14-2019 02:03 PM

I would not close any valves. I think most gas appliances with a pilot light will have an automatic safety shutoff.

anothersteve 07-14-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1664167)
Our main gas shut off valve is in our attic.....easily accessible. I'm not sure there is a gas shut off outside the house. I've never seen one.

That's what I meant.
Steve

CWGUY 07-14-2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1664173)
That's what I meant.
Steve

There is a shut off at the meter outside. Usually for the gas company or fire dept. use.

Mleeja 07-14-2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistybuffy3 (Post 1664082)
My tenant is moving out mid August and I will be there in oct for week then dec, my question is this, I will be changing over elec to my name, and gas also, should I turn the gas off until I’m there?

IMHO, yes to having utilities switched to your name. No to turning off gas. Presumably the only appliance using gas while you are not there is the water heater. Most water heaters have a “Vacation” setting. Have the water heater turned to this setting. Minimal gas will be used.

BobnBev 07-14-2019 05:19 PM

If you turn off the gas, then you are turning off the air conditioner. You will have excessive humidity and mold growing. Who need that?

anothersteve 07-14-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1664206)
If you turn off the gas, then you are turning off the air conditioner. You will have excessive humidity and mold growing. Who need that?

???
Steve

VJBama 07-14-2019 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1664206)
If you turn off the gas, then you are turning off the air conditioner. You will have excessive humidity and mold growing. Who need that?

You are incorrect. Air conditioners are powered by electricity.

Dan9871 07-15-2019 06:10 AM

There are air conditioners that run on gas and refrigerators too.

pacjag 07-15-2019 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan9871 (Post 1664260)
There are air conditioners that run on gas and refrigerators too.

Only if there is a gas powered electrical generator in the middle.

Dan9871 07-15-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pacjag (Post 1664264)
Only if there is a gas powered electrical generator in the middle.

There are AC's that run directly on gas.

GasAirConditioning.com | Just another Energy Solutions Center site

And refrigerators too,

Ben's Discount Supply | Propane Refrigerator

BobnBev 07-15-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by VJBama (Post 1664221)
You are incorrect. Air conditioners are powered by electricity.

Gee, I wonder why there is a gas line connected to my a/c, and every time the a/c comes on, the furnace comes on also. A/c fans are electric, but the part of the a/c that removes moisture is gas powered. Moisture breeds mold, that's why the new a/c's come with a humidistat to regulate the moisture content in the house.

Ask me how I know.:boom:

CWGUY 07-15-2019 01:02 PM

:ohdear: How does furnace and AC work?
During warm seasons your heating system works with your central air conditioning. Air is cooled as it's blown over your air conditioning unit's cooling coil, often attached to the air circulating fan of the furnace, and then sent through the same air ducts throughout your home.

The furnace isn't on (gas) just the electric fan.

pacjag 07-15-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan9871 (Post 1664320)

Thanks for that. I was completely unaware of those. I do doubt there are any in TV, though, but you never know.

CWGUY 07-15-2019 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pacjag (Post 1664430)
Thanks for that. I was completely unaware of those. I do doubt there are any in TV, though, but you never know.

Of the ones I have seen, most are for travel trailers and are propane. :ho:

BobnBev 07-15-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1664413)
:ohdear: How does furnace and AC work?
During warm seasons your heating system works with your central air conditioning. Air is cooled as it's blown over your air conditioning unit's cooling coil, often attached to the air circulating fan of the furnace, and then sent through the same air ducts throughout your home.

The furnace isn't on (gas) just the electric fan.

When I look thru the sight hole, I can see the furnace is on by the flame.

CWGUY 07-15-2019 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1664500)
When I look thru the sight hole, I can see the furnace is on by the flame.

:bigbow: YOU WIN! If you think you need your furnace on to cool your house.... good. I don't care. I do hope your a/c is not running in the winter to warm it.

:icon_wink: Does anyone else have their furnace fired up to cool their home? :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

BobnBev 07-16-2019 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1664508)
:bigbow: YOU WIN! If you think you need your furnace on to cool your house.... good. I don't care. I do hope your a/c is not running in the winter to warm it.

:icon_wink: Does anyone else have their furnace fired up to cool their home? :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

It does run in the winter also to heat the house and remove moisture from the air.

biker1 07-16-2019 07:45 AM

I am curious. If you have the time and can find them, please post the make and model number.

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1664578)
It does run in the winter also to heat the house and remove moisture from the air.


BobnBev 07-16-2019 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1664581)
I am curious. If you have the time and can find them, please post the make and model number.

It's a brand new Carrier 3 ton, That's all I know.

anothersteve 07-16-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1664698)
It's a brand new Carrier 3 ton, That's all I know.

"It does run in the winter also to heat the house and remove moisture from the air." from post 23

I think you are a little confused. You are heating with gas and cooling with electric. It called a gas pack. There are AC units that run on gas but I don't think you would have one here, at least I never heard of one installed here.
Steve

retiredguy123 07-16-2019 03:17 PM

Most houses in The Villages have a heat pump, which is all electric and is an air conditioner that can run in reverse in the winter to heat as well as cool. So, in the winter, the cooling coil becomes the heating coil. However, some houses have an air conditioner that only operates as a cooling device. But, there is a gas furnace built into the air handling unit that heats the house in the winter. Even though the gas furnace uses the same air handling fan to circulate air throughout the house, the heating and cooling functions are totally separate. The gas is not needed for cooling.

CWGUY 07-16-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1664698)
It's a brand new Carrier 3 ton, That's all I know.

:ohdear: It would have been nice of the installer to explain how it operates. Mike from Chuck Farrell did that for me. Seeing as how you have a gas furnace as part of your HVAC .... I sure hope you got a check from TECO's rebate program for $500.00 made out to you.:ho:

biker1 07-16-2019 03:38 PM

I agree with Steve in Post #26. You probably have a gas furnace for heat and an electric AC for cooling. Those areas without gas will typically have a heat pump (an AC that can operate in reverse to generate heat).

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1664698)
It's a brand new Carrier 3 ton, That's all I know.


BobnBev 07-16-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1664718)
:ohdear: It would have been nice of the installer to explain how it operates. Mike from Chuck Farrell did that for me. Seeing as how you have a gas furnace as part of your HVAC .... I sure hope you got a check from TECO's rebate program for $500.00 made out to you.:ho:

I did get the check....pleasant surprise. The a/c people said they would either take the $500 off the final bill, or I could have the check, I opted for the check.

anothersteve 07-16-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1664773)
I did get the check....pleasant surprise. The a/c people said they would either take the $500 off the final bill, or I could have the check, I opted for the check.

But did they explain how it operates?
Steve

CWGUY 07-16-2019 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1664775)
But did they explain how it operates?
Steve

:shrug:

CWGUY 07-16-2019 09:22 PM

:popcorn: And why was it a surprise? :popcorn:

I received a $100.00 TECO rebate when I got a new stove.
I received a $400 .00 rebate when I replaced my H2O heater.
and
I received a $500.00 when I replaced my HVAC that has a gas furnace as a part of it.

No surprise.... just part of a well advertised rebate program that TECO Gas has. They want you to replace your appliances with more energy efficient ones and remain TECO customers.

BobnBev 07-17-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1664775)
But did they explain how it operates?
Steve

Probably, but I don't remember. Had enough to remember about the new thermostat.

tylerknight 07-18-2019 09:51 AM

I recommend always turning the gas valve off and running the cart until the carb is empty. This way your carburetor will not get all gunked up while in storage.

rachellanham 07-18-2019 10:02 AM

I would never mess with the gas valves as you run the risk of turning off all pilot lights. This can create a VERY dangerous hazard if there is ever a gas leak

CWGUY 07-18-2019 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tylerknight (Post 1665148)
I recommend always turning the gas valve off and running the cart until the carb is empty. This way your carburetor will not get all gunked up while in storage.

:what: This is a thread on gas and elect. in a home. :oops:


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