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peachpit 08-23-2019 10:00 PM

Trash Option
 
Most people get their mail everyday. Many by golf cart. Why not put dumpsters at the postal stations? Empty these dumpsters daily. This would reduce labor, fuel, and manpower.
I’m sure this would reduce our trash bill.
What say you?

Ooper 08-23-2019 11:45 PM

There are trash receptacles at our mail station to deposit junk mail and such and regularly emptied. We also have numerous barrels for can recycling. I would think all the mail stations would have these.

peachpit 08-24-2019 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 1675600)
There are trash receptacles at our mail station to deposit junk mail and such and regularly emptied. We also have numerous barrels for can recycling. I would think all the mail stations would have these.

Oh, I’m not talking trash receptacles. I’m talking dumpsters. No more curbside pick-up. Take your trash to the postal station when you get your mail. Dumpsters will be emptied daily. One employee, one truck. I think it would be a huge cost savings for the trash company.

GrumpyOldMan 08-24-2019 04:09 AM

I don't know that collection is the major cost of dealing with trash - maybe.

But, I am well aware of dumpsters. Where we live currently we drive to a "collection site" with dumpsters and I can see no way that site can be anything other than an eye sore. Second, people are in general slobs. There are always piles of garbage that "miss" the dumpsters. Even with a full time employee policing the site it is still a mess. It is such a problem they recently had to put up a security fence to close it off after hours and put up large signs indicating dumping on the ground would be prosecuted.

A good idea, but people are slobs and in practice it would be hard to make it blend in with the esthetics of TV.

retiredguy123 08-24-2019 04:26 AM

I don't know what most people do, but I sure don't travel to the postal station every day to pick up junk mail.

GrumpyOldMan 08-24-2019 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1675611)
I don't know what most people do, but I sure don't travel to the postal station every day to pick up junk mail.

I'm with you!

retiredguy123 08-24-2019 05:44 AM

What about all the monthly renters who don't ever go to the postal station?

Arctic Fox 08-24-2019 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1675605)
I don't know that collection is the major cost of dealing with trash

Yes, I suspect that it is the processing that racks up the cost.

The best way to reduce that is to reduce the amount of trash we produce. Everything seems to be wrapped, double-wrapped then triple-wrapped "for our convenience" but it's all adding to your monthly trash bill (not to mention adding to the initial cost of the item being purchased).

Most people won't want to be bothered with changing their habits but, with very little effort, you can find ways to reduce packaging and other trash.

GrumpyOldMan 08-24-2019 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1675621)
Yes, I suspect that it is the processing that racks up the cost.

The best way to reduce that is to reduce the amount of trash we produce. Everything seems to be wrapped, double-wrapped then triple-wrapped "for our convenience" but it's all adding to your monthly trash bill (not to mention adding to the initial cost of the item being purchased).

Most people won't want to be bothered with changing their habits but, with very little effort, you can find ways to reduce packaging and other trash.

I agree even small changes in habits can add up to big savings on trash.

jeriteri 08-24-2019 05:56 AM

If this happens I won't know what to do with myself at 5 in the morning on Mondays and Thursdays. I'm certainly not going for a golf cart ride then.

Marathon Man 08-24-2019 06:22 AM

NO!!!!!

Bay Kid 08-24-2019 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1675605)
I don't know that collection is the major cost of dealing with trash - maybe.

But, I am well aware of dumpsters. Where we live currently we drive to a "collection site" with dumpsters and I can see no way that site can be anything other than an eye sore. Second, people are in general slobs. There are always piles of garbage that "miss" the dumpsters. Even with a full time employee policing the site it is still a mess. It is such a problem they recently had to put up a security fence to close it off after hours and put up large signs indicating dumping on the ground would be prosecuted.

A good idea, but people are slobs and in practice it would be hard to make it blend in with the esthetics of TV.

Dumpsters would really be gross. Always smell, especially in warm weather. Flies, rats, stray animals, etc. They are just gross!

twoplanekid 08-24-2019 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1675623)
I agree even small changes in habits can add up to big savings on trash.

For those that use computers and still receive paper statements from The District office that contain monthly water, sewer, trash and amenity bills, please consider signing up for E-Billing.

Village Community Development Districts

By doing so, all of the information pertaining to your monthly bill will be emailed to the email you provide. You always have access to these records by returning to the districtgov.org to see the details and a complete history of your bills.

Village Community Development Districts

I am told by district staff that only about 15% of Villagers use E-Billing and that it costs around $9,000 per month to send out paper statements. So, save paper and help your Village District government save money by signing up for E-Billing. It's so easy to do!

skip0358 08-24-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by garyseitz (Post 1675601)
Oh, I’m not talking trash receptacles. I’m talking dumpsters. No more curbside pick-up. Take your trash to the postal station when you get your mail. Dumpsters will be emptied daily. One employee, one truck. I think it would be a huge cost savings for the trash company.

If every resident brought their trash to the Postal Station everyday do you realize what size dumpster you would need? Besides that the mess,smell, rodents etc. you would have. And then there's the weekend trash.

Bogie Shooter 08-24-2019 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1675645)
For those that use computers and still receive paper statements from The District office that contain monthly water, sewer, trash and amenity bills, please consider signing up for E-Billing.

Village Community Development Districts

By doing so, all of the information pertaining to your monthly bill will be emailed to the email you provide. You always have access to these records by returning to the districtgov.org to see the details and a complete history of your bills.

Village Community Development Districts

I am told by district staff that only about 15% of Villagers use E-Billing and that it costs around $9,000 per month to send out paper statements. So, save paper and help your Village District government save money by signing up for E-Billing. It's so easy to do!

Good reminder, easy enough to do.

mtdjed 08-24-2019 08:10 AM

Did you ever notice that where you see dumpsters for trash (Garbage), you also notice odors and see the little gray rodent traps? Would make your trip to the mail center, pool and shuffleboard courts a new experience. Not to mention the joy from adjacent home owners.

retiredguy123 08-24-2019 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1675645)
For those that use computers and still receive paper statements from The District office that contain monthly water, sewer, trash and amenity bills, please consider signing up for E-Billing.

Village Community Development Districts

By doing so, all of the information pertaining to your monthly bill will be emailed to the email you provide. You always have access to these records by returning to the districtgov.org to see the details and a complete history of your bills.

Village Community Development Districts

I am told by district staff that only about 15% of Villagers use E-Billing and that it costs around $9,000 per month to send out paper statements. So, save paper and help your Village District government save money by signing up for E-Billing. It's so easy to do!

I use E-billing for everything. But, I find it strange that, even after I pay my E-bill to the Leesburg Electric Co, they still send me a paper bill every month.

Cobh521 08-24-2019 08:20 AM

No Way! I do not want a dumpster at the mail stations. This will also lead to outsiders hauling their trash and dumping it.

skip0358 08-24-2019 08:26 AM

I have a shredder and anything that fits in it is shredded. Can usually go 2 weeks before the reash bag is full then it goes out.

tophcfa 08-24-2019 09:03 AM

I would like to have a "pay for the trash you generate" option rather than a fixed monthly cost. It's not really fair to part time residents to pay for trash removal for long periods of time when you are not there!

New Englander 08-24-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobh521 (Post 1675669)
No Way! I do not want a dumpster at the mail stations. This will also lead to outsiders hauling their trash and dumping it.

Exactly

duhbear 08-24-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by garyseitz (Post 1675594)
Most people get their mail everyday. Many by golf cart. Why not put dumpsters at the postal stations? Empty these dumpsters daily. This would reduce labor, fuel, and manpower.
I’m sure this would reduce our trash bill.
What say you?

Nope!

JoMar 08-24-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by garyseitz (Post 1675594)
Most people get their mail everyday. Many by golf cart. Why not put dumpsters at the postal stations? Empty these dumpsters daily. This would reduce labor, fuel, and manpower.
I’m sure this would reduce our trash bill.
What say you?

If you enjoy living in a trashy environment I guess you would like that right.....what say you?

Arctic Fox 08-24-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1675645)
For those that use computers and still receive paper statements from The District office that contain monthly water, sewer, trash and amenity bills, please consider signing up for E-Billing.

and SECO, bank statements, cable


Is it possible to request that advertising mail is not put in your mailbox, or does USPS have to "deliver" it as it has been paid for?

justjim 08-24-2019 10:42 AM

Overwhelmingly no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garyseitz (Post 1675594)
Most people get their mail everyday. Many by golf cart. Why not put dumpsters at the postal stations? Empty these dumpsters daily. This would reduce labor, fuel, and manpower.
I’m sure this would reduce our trash bill.
What say you?

OP, it appears that your answer is overwhelmingly no on a dumpster for trash at the mail boxes or any other place in The Villages. In a small condo community that could work but that does not describe The Villages.

retiredguy123 08-24-2019 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1675707)
and SECO, bank statements, cable


Is it possible to request that advertising mail is not put in your mailbox, or does USPS have to "deliver" it as it has been paid for?

I guess you can request anythIng you want, but they will not stop putting junk mail in your mailbox. Actually, the mailbox doesn't belong to you. It is the property of the U.S. Government.

Arctic Fox 08-24-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1675713)
I guess you can request anythIng you want, but they will not stop putting junk mail in your mailbox.

and, like the advertising in newspapers, junk mail subsidizes the cost of regular mail, so I guess I shouldn't complain about it

Midnight Cowgirl 08-24-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1675707)
and SECO, bank statements, cable


Is it possible to request that advertising mail is not put in your mailbox, or does USPS have to "deliver" it as it has been paid for?


When a customer of any company agrees to go on E-billing, the company should be giving their customers a credit of some sort because they are saving the company some money in terms of paper, postage, manpower and a few other related things.

Yes, USPS MUST deliver any and all mail when a sender has paid for delivery.

Midnight Cowgirl 08-24-2019 01:14 PM

One thing that would definitely cut the cost of our trash bill would be to have once a week pickup.

Homeowners would probably save about 1/3 of the current cost if that was instituted.

Dmbluk 08-24-2019 01:19 PM

Could you imagine a 95 degree day sitting by the pool with a dumpster sitting 50 feet on the other side of the fence?

birdawg 08-24-2019 01:26 PM

Been working fine for years.

GrumpyOldMan 08-24-2019 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by birdawg (Post 1675753)
Been working fine for years.

Seems to have been, there is this saying about "if it isn't broken, don't fix it".

JoMar 08-24-2019 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=tophcfa;1675682]I would like to have a "pay for the trash you generate" option rather than a fixed monthly cost. It's not really fair to part time residents to pay for trash removal for long periods of time when you are not there![/QUO

Another layer of admin costs and software and probably hardware will be added. Part of the deal when part timers decided to own here....if it doesn't meet needs, why do they buy?

kcrazorbackfan 08-24-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by garyseitz (Post 1675594)
Most people get their mail everyday. Many by golf cart. Why not put dumpsters at the postal stations? Empty these dumpsters daily. This would reduce labor, fuel, and manpower.
I’m sure this would reduce our trash bill.
What say you?

You are talking about old people hoisting bags of trash up into a dumpster, correct? Riiiiiiiight.....

Bogie Shooter 08-24-2019 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1675769)
You are talking about old people hoisting bags of trash up into a dumpster, correct? Riiiiiiiight.....

What you callin old kimosabe?
(Sorry could not pass it up.:))

kcrazorbackfan 08-24-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1675777)
What you callin old kimosabe?
(Sorry could not pass it up.:))

Only 66 years young here..... Lots of older farts out there.

Bogie Shooter 08-24-2019 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1675782)
Only 66 years young here..... Lots of older farts out there.

😎:1rotfl:

graciegirl 08-24-2019 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1675782)
Only 66 years young here..... Lots of older farts out there.

And they will kick your fanny for pointing it out! lol

vintageogauge 08-24-2019 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=JoMar;1675767]
Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1675682)
I would like to have a "pay for the trash you generate" option rather than a fixed monthly cost. It's not really fair to part time residents to pay for trash removal for long periods of time when you are not there![/QUO

Another layer of admin costs and software and probably hardware will be added. Part of the deal when part timers decided to own here....if it doesn't meet needs, why do they buy?

It's only not fair if you didn't know before you purchased. If you didn't pay while not here the rates would go up to the point that you would be paying at least the same annual cost.

tophcfa 08-24-2019 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1675682)
I would like to have a "pay for the trash you generate" option rather than a fixed monthly cost. It's not really fair to part time residents to pay for trash removal for long periods of time when you are not there!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1675767)
Another layer of admin costs and software and probably hardware will be added. Part of the deal when part timers decided to own here....if it doesn't meet needs, why do they buy?

I was well aware of the trash policy when we bought, and gladly bought anyways. I was not aware that I was not supposed to voice my opinion about it on a thread titled "Trash Option" which was discussing other possible ways to deal with trash removal options??? If I can't do that without getting criticism, then why bother to post on TOV???

And as an added benefit to my proposal of paying for the trash that a household generates, rather than a fixed monthly cost, is that it could yield positive environmental benefits. Think about it, what financial incentive does one have to minimize the trash they generate when they pay a fixed rate regardless of how much trash they put out twice a week. If people had to pay by the bag of trash they generate, they would have a real financial incentive to minimize the trash they produce.


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