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Willbare 09-05-2019 05:48 AM

Traffic lane use
 
WHY Do people drive in the left lane below speed limit? WHY? The left lane is for passing or if you are about to turn left. We are NOT in England folks PLEASE drive like you are supposed to.

pacjag 09-05-2019 07:05 AM

Unfortunately, you’re in Florida where this practice originated quite a few years ago.

Arctic Fox 09-05-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Willbare (Post 1678687)
WHY Do people drive in the left lane below speed limit? WHY? The left lane is for passing or if you are about to turn left. We are NOT in England folks PLEASE drive like you are supposed to.

I'm pretty sure that in England they use the left lane to turn left, too. Well, not everybody, obviously. Any Floridians over there...

John_W 09-05-2019 09:41 AM

It's actually a law now in Florida since about 2017, the right lane is for driving and the left lane is for passing. They could give out tickets on 466A all day long, I think some drivers have never considered using the right lane.

papasetti82 09-05-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pacjag (Post 1678691)
Unfortunately, you’re in Florida where this practice originated quite a few years ago.

Yes you are right,quite a few years ago when Yankees invaded Florida.Why do you think these drivers you are complaining about are Floridians ?

JoMar 09-05-2019 10:13 AM

Same law in Pennsylvania, same non enforcement

buzzy 09-05-2019 10:49 AM

My guess is that they feel more comfortable with the shoulder or curb right there, rather than on the other side of the car.

Chatbrat 09-05-2019 11:03 AM

Personal preference lanes are all over TV

ditka41 09-05-2019 11:17 AM

Just a part of the "entitled" status that so many Villagers seem to have qualified for. Would be interesting to know if they are the same ones who don't intend to respect golf courses, pick up dog poop, share the MMP, park in store entrances, etc. -Does the status of "entitled" only apply to specific activities, or is the status very general, and apply to anything they choose to violate?

New Englander 09-05-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by papasetti82 (Post 1678741)
Yes you are right,quite a few years ago when Yankees invaded Florida.Why do you think these drivers you are complaining about are Floridians ?

:popcorn:

VApeople 09-05-2019 12:06 PM

I often drive in the left lane on 4-lane roads like 44, 466, and 466A.

When I turn left onto a 4-lane road, I always stay in the left lane until the traffic clears enough so that I can pull over to the right lane. Since I never exceed the posted speed limit, that can take awhile because the other cars are going faster and often do not leave me enough room to pull over.

When driving on Morse or Buena Vista and planning to turn left, I move over to the left lane (driving 30-35 mph) well ahead of the roundabout where I plan to turn.

EdFNJ 09-05-2019 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ditka41 (Post 1678767)
Just a part of the "entitled" status that so many Villagers seem to have qualified for. Would be interesting to know if they are the same ones who don't intend to respect golf courses, pick up dog poop, share the MMP, park in store entrances, etc. -Does the status of "entitled" only apply to specific activities, or is the status very general, and apply to anything they choose to violate?


Thank goodness the storm has passed, now we can get back to the "important" stuff !! Just have to add "Costco is coming/not coming" to get us totally back. :D :D

Polar Bear 09-05-2019 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1678786)
I often drive in the left lane on 4-lane roads like 44, 466, and 466A.

When I turn left onto a 4-lane road, I always stay in the left lane until the traffic clears enough so that I can pull over to the right lane. Since I never exceed the posted speed limit, that can take awhile because the other cars are going faster and often do not leave me enough room to pull over.

When driving on Morse or Buena Vista and planning to turn left, I move over to the left lane (driving 30-35 mph) well ahead of the roundabout where I plan to turn.

That all sounds good...except the part about "When I turn left onto a 4-lane road, I always stay in the left lane until the traffic clears...".

If you're turning left onto a 4-lane road, there should be no traffic to clear, or you shouldn't be making your left hand turn.

Two Bills 09-05-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1678786)
I often drive in the left lane on 4-lane roads like 44, 466, and 466A.

When I turn left onto a 4-lane road, I always stay in the left lane until the traffic clears enough so that I can pull over to the right lane. Since I never exceed the posted speed limit, that can take awhile because the other cars are going faster and often do not leave me enough room to pull over.

When driving on Morse or Buena Vista and planning to turn left, I move over to the left lane (driving 30-35 mph) well ahead of the roundabout where I plan to turn.

Driving behind a driver who is at, or in many cases, just below the posted limit whilst lane hogging is probably why so many other drivers get frustrated when driving.
Nothing like a "I know my rights" person, to make your day!

JimJohnson 09-05-2019 12:48 PM

Americans tend to follow the rule, ITS ALL ABOUT ME, add to that the age of most villagers and you have a mess.

graciegirl 09-05-2019 01:01 PM

Well we know who all of the latent road rage folks are.

Bogie Shooter 09-05-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1678786)
I often drive in the left lane on 4-lane roads like 44, 466, and 466A.

When I turn left onto a 4-lane road, I always stay in the left lane until the traffic clears enough so that I can pull over to the right lane. Since I never exceed the posted speed limit, that can take awhile because the other cars are going faster and often do not leave me enough room to pull over.

When driving on Morse or Buena Vista and planning to turn left, I move over to the left lane (driving 30-35 mph) well ahead of the roundabout where I plan to turn.

How far?
What about the car that turns onto Buena Vista at CR466 and moves to the left lane anticipating a left turn at CR466A? is that well ahead.
BTW state law says if you are driving at or below the speed limit you should move to the right. Why do you think all those cars are going faster...……………….?

vintageogauge 09-05-2019 02:22 PM

I call that villages drag racing.

Topspinmo 09-05-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Willbare (Post 1678687)
WHY Do people drive in the left lane below speed limit? WHY? The left lane is for passing or if you are about to turn left. We are NOT in England folks PLEASE drive like you are supposed to.

Read the law, no law against driving in left lane. Law is for impeding traffic in left lane. So in you're incident the driver should of moved over and let faster moving traffic pass regardless if the are speeding. Could you imagine everybody coming down 441 with three lanes of traffic in the right lane? Not going to happen, just like driving in left lane Not impeding traffic not going to get ticketed.

billethkid 09-05-2019 02:40 PM

On the highways I think the appropriate term is INCONSIDERATE....

Velvet 09-05-2019 02:47 PM

Hubby as a professional driver, expects everyone to drive appropriately. I tell him there are different rules in TV. Many drivers would love to drive with his reflexes but they can’t. Some people would rather not drive at all but they they have to - to go anywhere. Not only is everything, like groceries, far away from most homes, there aren’t even sidewalks to walk on. And no public transportation at all.

So in my opinion, if you have a lot of trouble with old folks attempt at driving, either get behind public transportation for TV, or go live somewhere else where these are not problems. Because those old folks are not going to get any younger!

pacjag 09-05-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by papasetti82 (Post 1678741)
Yes you are right,quite a few years ago when Yankees invaded Florida.Why do you think these drivers you are complaining about are Floridians ?

Because I have lived in the south my entire life. When the trend started many years ago, it certainly appeared to me the vehicles all had FL plates. And, when I visited FL I found it to be common. I don’t know, though, if the drivers were originally from FL or were transplants. The problem did not exist in GA or SC until recent years where it has become more and more common.

Several years ago, GA passed a law allowing drivers to be ticketed who drove in the left lane without moving over. I have never seen it enforced, though, and in fact I rarely see highway patrol vehicle anywhere but the left lane.

VApeople 09-05-2019 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1678795)
If you're turning left onto a 4-lane road, there should be no traffic to clear, or you shouldn't be making your left hand turn.

I often drive north on Morse and stop at 466A, planning to turn left.

When I get the turn signal to turn left, I go west on 466A and stay in the left lane. The cars coming south on Morse have a red light, but they often go west on 466A and are right beside me.

I keep driving at 40-45 mph in the left lane of 466A until the cars in the right lane give me a chance to pull into the right lane.

duhbear 09-05-2019 07:53 PM

Oh, they're gonna turn left just, 3 or 4 miles further down, and they want to be ready!

tophcfa 09-05-2019 08:32 PM

No ned to worry, it's just the old year round residents that shouldn't be driving anymore. Everything will get better as soon as all the snowbirds start their migration south.

Polar Bear 09-05-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1678908)
I often drive north on Morse and stop at 466A, planning to turn left.

When I get the turn signal to turn left, I go west on 466A and stay in the left lane. The cars coming south on Morse have a red light, but they often go west on 466A and are right beside me.

I keep driving at 40-45 mph in the left lane of 466A until the cars in the right lane give me a chance to pull into the right lane.

Understood. But there should still only be one vehicle who is...illegally...turning right-on-red into your path. Should be a pretty easy quick adjustment to get over to the right lane.

The above assumes you have a green arrow. If you have only a green ball, then the right turner likely has the right-of-way and you should be waiting on them to complete their right turn before you complete your left turn. Another easy adjustment into the right lane.

VApeople 09-05-2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1678921)
Understood. But there should still only be one vehicle who is...illegally...turning right-on-red into your path.

Often there are more than two vehicles turning west on 466A at the red light. They usually go faster than I choose to drive, so I wait until all of them are past before I pull over to the right lane.

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1678921)
The above assumes you have a green arrow.

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1678921)
If you have only a green ball, then the right turner likely has the right-of-way and you should be waiting on them to complete their right turn before you complete your left turn.

Yes, that is what I do if I only have a green ball.

Polar Bear 09-05-2019 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1678929)
Often there are more than two vehicles turning west on 466A at the red light. They usually go faster than I choose to drive, so I wait until all of them are past before I pull over to the right lane.

Yes.

Yes, that is what I do if I only have a green ball.

Sounds like you’re a safe driver.

The drivers who are making a right-turn-on-red while you’re performing a left turn with a green arrow are breaking the law.

VApeople 09-05-2019 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1678932)
The drivers who are making a right-turn-on-red while you’re performing a left turn with a green arrow are breaking the law.

We didn't face that as often in Virginia but it seems to happen all the time down here.

For example, we often leave Brownwood and go south on Powell Road to reach Route 44, wait for the light, and turn west on Route 44. Many times cars come out of the road next to Sparr and turn west on Route 44, even though they have a red light.

Since we are in the left lane of Route 44, there is no problem. When the traffic clears up, I move to the right lane.

Bogie Shooter 09-06-2019 06:34 AM

Maybe write a book, with all the options........

Chatbrat 09-06-2019 07:00 AM

The only vehicle infractions that seem to be enforced in TV are speeding and DUI--big $$ hits for the community enforcement agencies, and the big $$ doesn't kick in unless the offender is doing 9+ over the speed limit

bandsdavis 09-06-2019 08:58 AM

Just returned from a 3500+ mile trip to New England and back covering 10 states (mostly but not all on majpr highways). I think we encountered this problem in every state. Perhaps not to the extent we see it here, but it is far from a Villages problem only, and the drivers who stay left are not always older, even here. It seemed that many were on the phone or texting, which is another problem entirely and I'm sure could be a thread by itself.

karostay 09-06-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1678777)
:popcorn:



:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Chatbrat 09-06-2019 10:27 AM

Every now and then the Lady Lake PD, has a sign "slower drivers keep right, on 466 "--without enforcement , its a JOKE

Dmbluk 09-06-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1678929)
Often there are more than two vehicles turning west on 466A at the red light. They usually go faster than I choose to drive, so I wait until all of them are past before I pull over to the right lane.



Yes.



Yes, that is what I do if I only have a green ball.

Just out of curiosity. Do you use your turn signal once you are going west to let the other drivers know that you want in the right lane?

VApeople 09-06-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmbluk (Post 1679000)
Do you use your turn signal once you are going west to let the other drivers know that you want in the right lane?

Yes.

When the traffic on my right opens up, I put on my turn signal and move to the right lane.

Velvet 09-06-2019 12:14 PM

Lane splitting ok in Florida?

Polar Bear 09-06-2019 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1679019)
Lane splitting ok in Florida?

Some people think it should be. But no, it is illegal in Florida.

Velvet 09-06-2019 12:35 PM

We did it in California, but personally I wasn’t too keen on my knees brushing up against cars.

Topspinmo 09-06-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1678996)
Every now and then the Lady Lake PD, has a sign "slower drivers keep right, on 466 "--without enforcement , its a JOKE

It is joke if their NOT impeding faster traffic in the left lane.


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