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Boomer 09-16-2019 01:07 PM

I don’t know what that “thanks” thing is, but I don’t like it
 
I don’t know what it is — but I don’t like it. :(

What is that thing that has appeared underneath our join date and number of posts?

Why would we need or want a “thanks” calculator? Geez.

I just don’t get it.

It looks to me like some form of pathetic popularity contest that will soon devolve into an “Us vs. Them” and I do not think it bodes well for forum participation.

You’re welcome.

Mudder 09-16-2019 01:12 PM

Totally agree!

eweissenbach 09-16-2019 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1681894)
I don’t know what it is — but I don’t like it. :(

What is that thing that has appeared underneath our join date and number of posts?

Why would we need or want a “thanks” calculator? Geez.

I just don’t get it.

It looks to me like some form of pathetic popularity contest that will soon devolve into an “Us vs. Them” and I do not think it bodes well for forum participation.

You’re welcome.

Thanks!

billethkid 09-16-2019 01:38 PM

Ridiculous!!!

Fits in right along with my need to measure passing clouds!!!!

Maybe the creator/perpetrator had the foresight to have programmed an opt out option!!!!

Kenswing 09-16-2019 01:40 PM

Maybe we'll get a participation trophy next.. lol

Bucco 09-16-2019 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1681894)
I don’t know what it is — but I don’t like it. :(

What is that thing that has appeared underneath our join date and number of posts?

Why would we need or want a “thanks” calculator? Geez.

I just don’t get it.

It looks to me like some form of pathetic popularity contest that will soon devolve into an “Us vs. Them” and I do not think it bodes well for forum participation.

You’re welcome.

This will become a "collectors" item, much as "friends" are.

Notice the opportunity to rate threads ?

You had to know this was coming...the competition has been ongoing and now it will be manifested like some like it.

Velvet 09-16-2019 02:13 PM

Don’t like it either.

graciegirl 09-16-2019 02:18 PM

I don't think it is anything but someone pushing the wrong button.

Someone screwed up something.

I don't see any "opportunity to rate threads" anywhere Bucco. Show us.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-16-2019 02:20 PM

Y'all are stuck in the 1970's. Get with the times. MOST fora around the internetwebz have reputation points, or up/down voting. This particular forum now has the rep version. You can't downvote. You can only upvote. So if someone is typically incredibly helpful most of the time, NEW users will know to look for nuggets of wisdom and help from these members. Other members might also be very useful, but "these members" are actually known for it.

It also shows that this member is appreciative of other members, because it includes the number of thanks they have given, in addition to the number of thanks they have received.

I'm so accustomed to this inclusion, that I was actually surprised when I first came here and saw that it wasn't included. It feels weird to not be able to "rep" someone for an especially helpful post.

Velvet 09-16-2019 02:23 PM

I find it insidious and childish, but if you guys are used to it, I can live with it.

Kenswing 09-16-2019 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1681919)
I don't think it is anything but someone pushing the wrong button.

Someone screwed up something.

I don't see any "opportunity to rate threads" anywhere Bucco. Show us.

Upper right of the page just below the advertisements is a pull down menu..

Kenswing 09-16-2019 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1681921)
Y'all are stuck in the 1970's. Get with the times. MOST fora around the internetwebz have reputation points, or up/down voting. This particular forum now has the rep version. You can't downvote. You can only upvote. So if someone is typically incredibly helpful most of the time, NEW users will know to look for nuggets of wisdom and help from these members. Other members might also be very useful, but "these members" are actually known for it.

It also shows that this member is appreciative of other members, because it includes the number of thanks they have given, in addition to the number of thanks they have received.

I'm so accustomed to this inclusion, that I was actually surprised when I first came here and saw that it wasn't included. It feels weird to not be able to "rep" someone for an especially helpful post.

On this forum it will turn into NOTHING but a popularity contest. Garbage in, garbage out..

redwitch 09-16-2019 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1681921)
Y'all are stuck in the 1970's. Get with the times. MOST fora around the internetwebz have reputation points, or up/down voting. This particular forum now has the rep version. You can't downvote. You can only upvote. So if someone is typically incredibly helpful most of the time, NEW users will know to look for nuggets of wisdom and help from these members. Other members might also be very useful, but "these members" are actually known for it.

It also shows that this member is appreciative of other members, because it includes the number of thanks they have given, in addition to the number of thanks they have received.

I'm so accustomed to this inclusion, that I was actually surprised when I first came here and saw that it wasn't included. It feels weird to not be able to "rep" someone for an especially helpful post.

Yes, but it was nice that we didn’t. I’ve not seen one forum where the like feature (however named/used) wasn’t absolutely useless. People either “liked” everything or it was a popularity contest, neither of which is particularly helpful but can easily become very hurtful.

Carla B 09-16-2019 02:38 PM

It ranks right along with reality shows. NO THANKS.

retiredguy123 09-16-2019 02:47 PM

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retiredguy123 09-16-2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1681924)
Upper right of the page just below the advertisements is a pull down menu..

I see a way to rate the thread, but not an individual post. Can you be more specific.

Kenswing 09-16-2019 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1681940)
I see a way to rate the thread, but not an individual post. Can you be more specific.

She was inquiring about rating a thread. As of now I don't think the post rating function is active.

ColdNoMore 09-16-2019 03:06 PM

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I don't see any "opportunity to rate threads" anywhere Bucco. Show us.

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Bogie Shooter 09-16-2019 03:09 PM

Unnecessary addition.
Only one in favor...a newcomer.

ColdNoMore 09-16-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1681950)
Unnecessary addition.
Only one in favor...a newcomer.

Only one, so far, even showing this ridiculous feature being used (however it's done).

NOT a newcomer.

Boomer 09-16-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1681941)
YEP! :thumbup:

"Pathetic popularity contest"...sums it up perfectly!

What's next, keeping a running total up there in your heading...of how many people you've 'friended?' :oops:



Hey, Cold, I have been around here so darned long that I remember when that “friend” thing started. I had no idea what that was either. That was years ago.

I thought it was odd, but if someone sent me a “friend” request, I just went ahead and accepted it because it seemed rude not to, but I never sent out a “friend” request. Not because I am not a nice lady, but because it made no sense to me. But that’s just me.

And — now, to you, Jazuela, soooooo, you think I am stuck in the 1970s. Oh, how I wish. Damn, those were good days. I was pretty cute and drove a Triumph GT6. (I bet you have never seen one of those. Sure was fun to drive.) But now I drive a sedate Honda and am not nearly as cute. (sigh) Oh, well.

Anyway, Jaz, I usually really like your posts and think you are smart and have a hellava vocabulary. You know your way around words. But, I completely disagree with the post you wrote above. Playing the age card was a cheap shot. You are better than that.

We have gone along fine here for quite a while, able to express our “feelings” in actual words instead of lazy little upticks.

I predict this back-patting idea will turn into a pukefest, at best, or a manipulative, control freak fiesta, at worst.

But maybe if this thing is a go, it will FINALLY make me stop looking.


Sincerely,
Boomerosaurus

Polar Bear 09-16-2019 03:50 PM

All I see is a rating system for threads...not individual posts or a poster. Am I missing something?

Villageswimmer 09-16-2019 03:51 PM

Let’s all BOYCOTT it.

Kenswing 09-16-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1681957)
This is a rating system for threads, right? Not the posters.

There has always been a rating system for threads. It now looks like they're gearing up for a rating system of individual posts which are in effect a rating for individual posters.

ColdNoMore 09-16-2019 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1681957)
All I see is a rating system for threads...not individual posts or a poster. Am I missing something?

Look over to where it shows your join date and number of posts.

Polar Bear 09-16-2019 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1681962)
Look over to where it shows your join date and number of posts.

Okay. I see that finally. (It's not visible on iPhone using Chrome.)

But I see nothing that is clickable yet...so feature implementation not complete?

eweissenbach 09-16-2019 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1681962)
Look over to where it shows your join date and number of posts.

Yes, I see the "thanks" result metric, but no way to actually register your positive feedback.

billethkid 09-16-2019 04:21 PM

Where is the "no thanks"?

Bucco 09-16-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1681919)
I don't think it is anything but someone pushing the wrong button.

Someone screwed up something.

I don't see any "opportunity to rate threads" anywhere Bucco. Show us.

Hit REPLY......after entering your reply or even before as long as on that page....Under ADDITIONAL OPTIONS...RATE THREAD

Bucco 09-16-2019 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1681921)
Y'all are stuck in the 1970's. Get with the times. MOST fora around the internetwebz have reputation points, or up/down voting. This particular forum now has the rep version. You can't downvote. You can only upvote. So if someone is typically incredibly helpful most of the time, NEW users will know to look for nuggets of wisdom and help from these members. Other members might also be very useful, but "these members" are actually known for it.

It also shows that this member is appreciative of other members, because it includes the number of thanks they have given, in addition to the number of thanks they have received.

I'm so accustomed to this inclusion, that I was actually surprised when I first came here and saw that it wasn't included. It feels weird to not be able to "rep" someone for an especially helpful post.

I plead guilty to being stuck "somewhere", but certainly not the 70's. This forum appealed to me because of its local flavor and it was not at all like Facebook or Twitter or any such thing. Those are for the mobs.....interesting read here.....

How Twitter and Facebook are weaponizing mob mentality

GONE, it appears is individual thought or opinion. We MUST be controlled in some fashion and conform to what the MOB says.

Not me....not my style never was. I have found that MOB action, even verbally, is usually very wrong and always misinformed. I can be stupid and wrong on my own......no need to join a group to be liked for my opinion or to change my opinion because of the mob mentality and that is where we are headed

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-16-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1681955)
Hey, Cold, I have been around here so darned long that I remember when that “friend” thing started. I had no idea what that was either. That was years ago.

I thought it was odd, but if someone sent me a “friend” request, I just went ahead and accepted it because it seemed rude not to, but I never sent out a “friend” request. Not because I am not a nice lady, but because it made no sense to me. But that’s just me.

And — now, to you, Jazuela, soooooo, you think I am stuck in the 1970s. Oh, how I wish. Damn, those were good days. I was pretty cute and drove a Triumph GT6. (I bet you have never seen one of those. Sure was fun to drive.) But now I drive a sedate Honda and am not nearly as cute. (sigh) Oh, well.

Anyway, Jaz, I usually really like your posts and think you are smart and have a hellava vocabulary. You know your way around words. But, I completely disagree with the post you wrote above. Playing the age card was a cheap shot. You are better than that.

We have gone along fine here for quite a while, able to express our “feelings” in actual words instead of lazy little upticks.

I predict this back-patting idea will turn into a pukefest, at best, or a manipulative, control freak fiesta, at worst.

But maybe if this thing is a go, it will FINALLY make me stop looking.


Sincerely,
Boomerosaurus

Doesn't have anything to do with age. Bill Gates is 63 and I'm pretty sure he knows all about reddit and BBS and Usenet and city-data. Bill Atkinson probably figured all this stuff out in the 80's, and he's almost 70 now. Scott McNealy, co-founder of Sun Microsystems, learned about these things in the 80's. He's 64.

The forum we are posting on, is written with PHP. The founder of PHP, released the first version of it in 1995. He's "only" 50 but he was contributing to Apache in the 1980's.

Millions of people of ALL ages are aware of these features, because millions of people of ALL ages use them on a daily basis.

When I say "you" gotta catch up with the times, I mean you, the set of members of this particular forum who seem to be oblivious to fora in the rest of the internet.

Also (off-topic aside): I was intimately familiar with the TR7, via a particular fellow in the beach parking lot...stick shifts are not your friend. But I took computer programming in my senior year of high school, which was 1978. I was an active member of three BBS boards before the WWW was invented, and we had upvotes even then.

justjim 09-16-2019 04:57 PM

I just noticed the new addition to TOTV. Perhaps an explanation from the administration is in order.

ColdNoMore 09-16-2019 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1681970)
Okay. I see that finally. (It's not visible on iPhone using Chrome.)

But I see nothing that is clickable yet...so feature implementation not complete?

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1681971)
Yes, I see the "thanks" result metric, but no way to actually register your positive feedback.

I don't think it is active yet, as I haven't seen how to click on a 'thanks' for a post either.

So far, I've only even seen 1 person...with anything but zeros over there.
:shrug:

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-16-2019 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1681995)
WOW.....The Villages has ZERO control over things I do not allow.

They do not ask for conformity and saying that tells me you need to get a bit more experience living here. I have been here for close to 19 years and nobody has ever once controlled me in anyway on anything.

Property ownership always had pluses and minus but I do not stand to be applauded or not applauded because of where I live. I have owned about 6 different homes in my life. They all have rules and that is great.

Never said anything would "kill" me and using that kind of language will not sway me from not wanting to be involved in that kind of forum. It actually exists in some ways but to be condoned by the forum itself is simply trying to be like Facebook or the others you seem to feel are ok.

You really need to take Facebook out of the equation. It has nothing to do with anything. The only way your posts on Facebook can be "liked" by other people, is if you make your page public, or post a public response on someone else's public page. You can be a member of Facebook just so you can keep in touch with your family and friends, and not allow anyone else access to anything you post. You can also make it so that no one can share your posts, or like your posts...again - it has nothing to do with anything. Facebook is not a forum, and the fora that have the reps and likes and thanks predate Facebook by almost two decades.

billethkid 09-16-2019 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1681986)
I find these two sentences, on a forum dedicated to The Villages, to be very ironic. This is the Villages you're talking about afterall. The place that is under strict control where the property you own, that you paid for, that is yours personally - is required to conform.

You're living in a community developed, controlled, and maintained intentionally to conform. A little internet forum "good job" isn't gonna kill ya!

Really?
Minority report is duly recognized!!!

Bucco 09-16-2019 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1681997)
You really need to take Facebook out of the equation. It has nothing to do with anything. The only way your posts on Facebook can be "liked" by other people, is if you make your page public, or post a public response on someone else's public page. You can be a member of Facebook just so you can keep in touch with your family and friends, and not allow anyone else access to anything you post. You can also make it so that no one can share your posts, or like your posts...again - it has nothing to do with anything. Facebook is not a forum, and the fora that have the reps and likes and thanks predate Facebook by almost two decades.

Ok.....accept what you say but tell me what the advantage to anyone is on a forum such as this to have like or such ?? That response will be solicited....I assure you.

Velvet 09-16-2019 05:44 PM

Personally, I do not like social media at all. This is the only forum I read and participate in. The only reason I joined was because it was informative on local concerns.

Concerning social media I neither want to be influenced nor influence people I don’t know. If it happens, it was not intentional. And I really don’t like information collected on me by the internet, Apple, Google etc in general. I like my privacy. For information I read newspapers and magazines from all over the world, in several languages.

I won’t quit TOTV over this “thanks” thingy but I do find it ridiculous, even if every forum has it. It is a phase I expect will fade out, when the Kardashians won’t be news any more.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-16-2019 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1682000)
Ok.....accept what you say but tell me what the advantage to anyone is on a forum such as this to have like or such ?? That response will be solicited....I assure you.

Well for one, it minimizes all the posts that people post JUST so they can say "I agree!". If a lot of people agree with one post, then they can simply "rep" (or "thank" in this case) that one post. And readers will see that 20 people agreed with that one post, without having to read 20 posts saying so.

That's actually the primary purpose of the rep system; to cut down on spam posts.

That's a start.

justjim 09-16-2019 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1681990)
I don't think it is active yet, as I haven't seen how to click on a 'thanks' for a post either.

So far, I've only even seen 1 person...with anything but zeros over there.
:shrug:

The thanks you speak of was within a post. Don’t know who thanked Gracie but apparently someone did. It appears a “monitor” would need to read every post or private message. Big job looking for a thank you within a post. I don’t see anyway for those of us who post to thank somebody for information other than a private message and in the past I have done just that a few times. Is the purpose of this to “grade” our information value to this site? :shocked:

Taltarzac725 09-16-2019 06:35 PM

I will have to see what happens with this. Makes no difference to me.

I actually have a very tough hide. Did get quite used to be a punching bag on many an internet Forum I was on since 2002 or so.


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