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Martian 10-06-2019 08:50 AM

How many WOULD use Marijuana if it was legal
 
As a parallel to another thread that asked how many use pot, how about how many would?

Being in Florida with it's serious sentencing guidelines for minor infractions of pot, and being in the VA healthcare and "rumors" that a new policy of denying healthcare if your blood work shows evidence of using, since it is a Federal crime, we choose to not use MJ in any forms at the moment.

We believe the stigma is moral and economics and not that it is a dangerous drug. We, my wife and I, believe it to be a much more acceptable recreational drug than Alcohol and would use it in place of the occasional glass of wine if it were legal at the Federal and State levels.

How about you.

John_W 10-06-2019 08:56 AM

My neighbor went to a doctor in Orlando, paid $250 and saw some fellow on a TV screen. Answered a few questions and now has weed delivered to his CYV legally by a dispensary in Lady Lake.

Could you qualify for a Florida medical marijuana card? What you should know

Sun Sentinel - June 20, 2019

More than 300,000 Florida residents have qualified for a medical marijuana card since the state legalized its use for certain health conditions. Do you think you might qualify?

Here’s some advice from certified medical marijuana clinics and doctors about what you should know before seeking a recommendation for medical marijuana treatment.

How do I find a certified doctor?
The state has made it simple: Go to the “Physician’s Search Tool” on Florida’s Office of Medical Marijuana Use site to find a doctor that has taken the state required training and is certified.

There are more than 2,300 Florida doctors in specialties including family care, oncology, gynecology and dermatology who are on the list, broken down by county.

There also are dedicated medical marijuana clinics that have certified doctors.

Still, further checking on the selected doctor is always a good idea.

The state site’s search tool will tell you whether the doctor’s license is “clear and active,” which means the doctor doesn’t have any disciplinary action or public complaints against him or her in Florida.

For a full search on a doctor practicing in Florida, go to the Department of Health’s site.

You also should consider how extensive of a consultation you want, because there are all kinds.

Do you want a doctor who will treat you on an ongoing basis to monitor marijuana’s effectiveness on your health condition? Or do you want the quickest path to a medical marijuana card? There are trade-offs that may involve costs and your health.

Dr. Anthony Hall, a certified medical marijuana doctor and neurologist in Lauderhill, says consumers need to be aware that a medical marijuana treatment appointment is for a “medical examination.” He says some people expect a five-minute survey and they’ll be signed up for a card.

“There’s going to be a full medical history and examinations. I look at images and lab results,” he says.

Dr. Paul Weisman, a former emergency room doctor who now focuses on medical marijuana treatment, says patients often look him up for help after they’ve obtained a card.

“I have tremendous amount of people call me after they’re certified. They didn’t know what to do,” says Weisman, a qualified doctor who provides medical marijuana treatment under the name of Concierge Cannabis Centers in Plantation, Boca Raton and Wellington. He also travels to some patients’ homes.

Weisman says his goal is to treat patients so they can live their “highest quality life."

Some patients find they are sensitive to THC, or or tetrahydrocannabinol — the chemical responsible for the euphoric sensation or “high."

“No two people are the same. And we change every day, from an additional injury or recovering from an injury or illness,” he says.

tophcfa 10-06-2019 09:02 AM

As stated above, it is legal with a medical card.

Martian 10-06-2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1686581)
As stated above, it is legal with a medical card.

Actually it is debatable if it is legal, since it is still classified as a controlled substance federally.

In most cases Fed's look the other way in states with legal medical MJ or legal Recreational MJ. But, the fed's don't have to look the other way.

I prefer not to spend 5 years with free room and board from the state on the outside chance.

And for us, like I said, the remote chance the VA would kick us out of the system is even a worse risk. The VA healthcare system is fantastic and free (except for co-pays) and we would not risk that under any circumstances.

So, until the fed's change the federal law/classification we will not risk it.

LI SNOWBIRD 10-06-2019 09:12 AM

Been there, done that in the 70's. I wouldn't even if it was legal.

Nucky 10-06-2019 09:15 AM

Not a chance for us.

Not a problem for others, Puff - Puff Away!

billethkid 10-06-2019 09:33 AM

No thanks.

If I am going to lose touch with reality then my choice is a good cognac and a cigar.

manaboutown 10-06-2019 09:41 AM

No way! I will not take 'stupid or psychosis pills' either. Effects of Pot | Long-Term Effects of Weed | Dangers of Marijuana

Long-term effects of cannabis - Wikipedia

New Englander 10-06-2019 09:41 AM

I have no interest in marijuana whether it's legal or not.

PrudentLifer 10-06-2019 09:44 AM

I was given a ration of crap on another thread about this subject. Fact is, pot makes you lazy and dumbed down. I've known many stoners over the years.


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Velvet 10-06-2019 09:45 AM

Personally, I don’t like drugs in general except when absolutely necessary. The docs don’t make much money on me and I love my senses as they are.

I have tried to understand an addicted friend once by sharing and then I spent a whole week worried that I may never be the same again. That was enough.

karostay 10-06-2019 09:46 AM

Chicken Little

Reefer Madness 1936 - YouTube

karostay 10-06-2019 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1686594)
No thanks.

If I am going to lose touch with reality then my choice is a good cognac and a cigar.

Kill brain cells and lung tissue

Topspinmo 10-06-2019 09:59 AM

Lots of dope heads and alcoholics around here and everywhere else so other than few that actually have medical need I’m sure lots would do if legal.

Course there are the potheads that going to do legal or not. Why it’s billion dollar business in USA. College party/dopers than never grown up.

When you think about the majority country has become weak whining enablers that can’t make it through day with out fix on something.:ohdear:

billethkid 10-06-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1686604)
Kill brain cells and lung tissue

Not when done right (as is by most of us!!).

Cigarette smokers get enjoyment/satisfaction/hooked by inhaling and rotting their lungs......none of which is done or needed when enjoying a good cigar!!

Dionysos 10-06-2019 11:25 AM

I’ll vote no just because of the choices. For me I personally don’t like to be high and had plenty of experience when I was younger. but who am I do judge others who do. There are so many different reasons why people use Cannabis. Some use for recreation, some for meds and some for no reason at all.

I think stereotyping any group is wrong and unfair. Imagine if the Local Drinking population was treated and judged the same. Just because a couple has a few cocktails a day, I would never think them to be alcoholics and assume they Beat their spouses or dumber then those who don’t drink. That’s how a lot of these views on Cannabis sound and again I say a bit “archaic”

Dionysos 10-06-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1686623)
Not when done right (as is by most of us!!).

Cigarette smokers get enjoyment/satisfaction/hooked by inhaling and rotting their lungs......none of which is done or needed when enjoying a good cigar!!

My good friend has lip cancer from smoking cigars. It all has risks obviously. I enjoy a good cigar and scotch from time to time but accept that is has some consequences. We are no different then some who enjoys a joint and a beer.

Aloha1 10-06-2019 12:53 PM

Nope. Much prefer a glass of good wine.

vintageogauge 10-06-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysos (Post 1686631)
My good friend has lip cancer from smoking cigars. It all has risks obviously. I enjoy a good cigar and scotch from time to time but accept that is has some consequences. We are no different then some who enjoys a joint and a beer.

I too had a friend that enjoyed "safe" cigars, he ended up with tongue cancer at 42 and it was so painful he took his life. No one knows what pesticides are used on those cigars, remembering paraquat.

Fredster 10-06-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PrudentLifer (Post 1686600)
I was given a ration of crap on another thread about this subject. Fact is, pot makes you lazy and dumbed down. I've known many stoners over the years.


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I recall one pot smoker, he was an Architect in his early 40’s living in his parents basement!
He definitely lacked motivation!

kpd3062 10-06-2019 04:01 PM

I would use it if legal. But probably not smoke it. I would prefer to use it orally, topically or some other method. I just don't care for the smell of want the smoke in my lungs.

Martian 10-06-2019 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kpd3062 (Post 1686666)
I would use it if legal. But probably not smoke it. I would prefer to use it orally, topically or some other method. I just don't care for the smell of want the smoke in my lungs.

I completely agree.

Ladygolfer93 10-06-2019 04:30 PM

As school administrator seen way too many potentially bright engaged students loose all interest in building a career, going to college or trade school, and eventually just "drifted" through life, contributed nothing to family and community. A few "woke up" along the way, but so many did go on to other drugs and greater risk. Just say "no" really never worked, those who wish of experience altered states are free to do so, including alcohol. To each their own. Many alcoholics and other drug classification addicts, have become wildly successful. It's a gamble and a matter of personal choice. I am also sorry to see cell phone use while driving so seldom enforced, and add MJ to an already out of control driving under the influence problem, we'll never see relief in auto insurance rates with the never ending rise of accidents and deaths.

manaboutown 10-06-2019 05:28 PM

I would divide them as lotus eaters or perhaps wanna be lotus eaters versus responsible, hard working, achieving folks.

Dionysos 10-06-2019 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1686679)
I would divide them as lotus eaters or perhaps wanna be lotus eaters versus responsible, hard working, achieving folks.


Sounds like you are describing meth heads or crack users. I have quite a few friends who use cannabis and they are highly successful. One a CEO of a Fortune 500 company and a couple who’s net worth is quite large. So putting them in a non “achieving” category is just plain ignorant. I am sure there are 1000’s of examples that would prove you wrong.

Don't Judge Someone Just Because They Sin Differently Than You Do!

Fredster 10-06-2019 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionysos (Post 1686682)
Sounds like you are describing meth heads or crack users. I have quite a few friends who use cannabis and they are highly successful. One a CEO of a Fortune 500 company and a couple who’s net worth is quite large. So putting them in a non “achieving” category is just plain ignorant. I am sure there are 1000’s of examples that would prove you wrong.

Don't Judge Someone Just Because They Sin Differently Than You Do!

And I would guess there are many thousands of users that ruined their chances of becoming successful in life!

karostay 10-06-2019 06:31 PM

I bet Jim Bean has taken down way more careers than Marry Jane

Dionysos 10-06-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1686685)
And I would guess there are many thousands of users that ruined their chances of becoming successful in life!

100% agree but I would still not use a paint brush approach to all. Plenty of non functional people in every category. Drinkers, smokers, swingers, pot smokers etc.... I’m not a scholar nor a statistician but I bet you could find equal failure with every group I mentioned above. I was probably considered a pot head in the 70s but had zero affect in my success. Even though I don’t indulge anymore I’ll 100% support those who do. If I was perfect in every sense I might feel ok with throwing out some unfounded claims and opinions, but I hate being a hypocrite since I’m far from perfect. I apologize in advance in case you are and feel justified.

Cheers

Dionysos 10-06-2019 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1686688)
I bet Jim Bean has taken down way more careers than Marry Jane

Interesting you say that. Ben Kovler a very close business associate is the Jim Beam Heir that founded Green Thumb Industries. The largest MSO in the US. Soon coming to the Villages as Rise dispensary.

Fredster 10-06-2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysos (Post 1686689)
100% agree but I would still not use a paint brush approach to all. Plenty of non functional people in every category. Drinkers, smokers, swingers, pot smokers etc.... I’m not a scholar nor a statistician but I bet you could find equal failure with every group I mentioned above. I was probably considered a pot head in the 70s but had zero affect in my success. Even though I don’t indulge anymore I’ll 100% support those who do. If I was perfect in every sense I might feel ok with throwing out some unfounded claims and opinions, but I hate being a hypocrite since I’m far from perfect. I apologize in advance in case you are and feel justified.

Cheers

Wether the form that’s used is liquid, solid or gas it is still a mind altering chemical.
Some people are predisposed to becoming addicted, which often effects their lives in a negative way.
Curious as to why you quit?

Dionysos 10-06-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1686693)
Wether the form that’s used is liquid, solid or gas it is still a mind altering chemical.
Curious as to why you quit?

I just started to not enjoy it as much is all. As far a comparing drinking a few beers now compared to smoking a joint back then. I can assure you the few beers is way more mind altering. My wife does Delta 8 exclusively for BC treatments and has done miracles to say the least.

Fredster 10-06-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysos (Post 1686695)
I just started to not enjoy it as much is all. As far a comparing drinking a few beers now compared to smoking a joint back then. I can assure you the few beers is way more mind altering. My wife does Delta 8 exclusively for BC treatments and has done miracles to say the least.

Good to hear that your wife has found something that works well for her!

manaboutown 10-06-2019 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionysos (Post 1686682)
Sounds like you are describing meth heads or crack users. I have quite a few friends who use cannabis and they are highly successful. One a CEO of a Fortune 500 company and a couple who’s net worth is quite large. So putting them in a non “achieving” category is just plain ignorant. I am sure there are 1000’s of examples that would prove you wrong.

Don't Judge Someone Just Because They Sin Differently Than You Do!


Nope, I am describing people I knew whose lives, after they started to smoke pot, went down the pot. Pardon the pun.

Thousands of examples may 'prove me wrong' but hundreds of thousands of examples would prove me right!

Dionysos 10-06-2019 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1686698)
Nope, I am describing people I knew whose lives, after they started to smoke pot, went down the pot. Pardon the pun.

Thousands of examples may 'prove me wrong' but hundreds of thousands of examples would prove me right!

So should we prohibit alcohol? It kills and destroys way more lives? Again I’m not personally for pot hence my vote but more of a defender of free will. Where do you draw the line?

Martian 10-06-2019 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionysos (Post 1686689)
If I was perfect in every sense I might feel ok with throwing out some unfounded claims and opinions, but I hate being a hypocrite since I’m far from perfect.
Cheers

Here, here! I often say I have no right to tell someone else how to be happy since I struggle daily with being happy myself.

manaboutown 10-06-2019 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionysos (Post 1686699)
So should we prohibit alcohol? It kills and destroys way more lives? Again I’m not personally for pot hence my vote but more of a defender of free will. Where do you draw the line?

If you defend free will how far do you go, to Heroin?

History of opium in China - Wikipedia

Dionysos 10-06-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1686704)
If you defend free will how far do you go, to Heroin?

History of opium in China - Wikipedia

Really! We are talking about Cannabis and alcohol. My free will was directed at the topic at hand. Please answer the question about alcohol as a simple comparison.

Martian 10-06-2019 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1686704)
If you defend free will how far do you go, to Heroin?

History of opium in China - Wikipedia

I personally go with science. When it comes to using various drugs, I look at that a lot like letting people own guns. I don't care that you own and use guns for your own reasons, when you kill someone with a gun, you better have a really good justification.

Same with drugs, none of my business how you get your buzz on, alcohol, pot, heroine, cocaine or opium - you name it. Now, if you get a buzz on and climb behind the wheel of your car, we are going to have a problem regardless of which method you used to get you buzz.

Smoking and alcohol are good examples of two widely used drugs that cost society hundreds of billions of dollars every year. Personally, I could see requiring people to carry insurance to. cover the costs their particular vice will likely cost society... but that idea is not about to fly...

Velvet 10-06-2019 07:51 PM

Are we allowed to mention religion on this forum? I can’t remember. Jesus turned water into wine at a wedding so apparently he sanctioned it. But on the cross when it was offered to him he refused it. The Bible presents the use of alcohol in moderation only. But the Reformed church doesn’t like alcohol and serves only grape juice beside the host.

manaboutown 10-06-2019 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian (Post 1686712)
I personally go with science. When it comes to using various drugs, I look at that a lot like letting people own guns. I don't care that you own and use guns for your own reasons, when you kill someone with a gun, you better have a really good justification.

Same with drugs, none of my business how you get your buzz on, alcohol, pot, heroine, cocaine or opium - you name it. Now, if you get a buzz on and climb behind the wheel of your car, we are going to have a problem regardless of which method you used to get you buzz.

Smoking and alcohol are good examples of two widely used drugs that cost society hundreds of billions of dollars every year. Personally, I could see requiring people to carry insurance to. cover the costs their particular vice will likely cost society... but that idea is not about to fly...

Fortunately, smokers must now pay more for life insurance, as they most certainly should!


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