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Chatbrat 10-21-2019 05:40 AM

Gate Passes
 
Its about time that our gate passes get caught up with the 21st century--magnetic cards were good in the 1980's; but today there are way better alternatives.

Bar codes, or synch to your garage door opener or your car's "homelink"

Its a real pleasure to subject your clothing and your car's interior to a deluge to swipe apiece of plastic which has "ZERO" security associate with it

graciegirl 10-21-2019 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1689979)
Its about time that our gate passes get caught up with the 21st century--magnetic cards were good in the 1980's; but today there are way better alternatives.

Bar codes, or synch to your garage door opener or your car's "homelink"

Its a real pleasure to subject your clothing and your car's interior to a deluge to swipe apiece of plastic which has "ZERO" security associate with it

We have lived here for fourteen years and never once felt opening our window to stick out our pass when it was raining was worth noting.

BUT I disdain using an umbrella. It is warm when it rains here. I have never known clothes or a car's interior to be harmed by a little rain from rolling down your window for a few seconds.

The gates are there to slow traffic so golf carts can pass, they are not there for "security" or showing off we live in a truly gated community.

Fredman 10-21-2019 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1689987)
We have lived here for fourteen years and never once felt opening our window to stick out our pass when it was raining was worth noting.

BUT I disdain using an umbrella. It is warm when it rains here. I have never known clothes or a car's interior to be harmed by a little rain from rolling down your window for a few seconds.

The gates are there to slow traffic so golf carts can pass, they are not there for "security" or showing off we live in a truly gated community.


You tell it like it is

Steve CT 10-21-2019 06:35 AM

The OPs comment was to automate the gate opening...not remove the gates. That's what I thought I read.

bonrich 10-21-2019 06:38 AM

We do not live in a "gated community", we live in a community with gates.

rjn5656 10-21-2019 07:11 AM

sticker on car/cart would be great

Chatbrat 10-21-2019 07:14 AM

Must agree, this way , when a gate arm the "CART" could be Id'd

bilcon 10-21-2019 07:26 AM

Years ago, when we had a torrential downpour, they would raise the gates until it was over. I know that at the St. Charles gate, I can hold my card up to my closed window and it works, and yes, I have tinted windows. Should be like that everywhere.

OhioViper 10-21-2019 08:41 AM

It does seem the system is outdated. If the card worked from inside your car that would be great. Unfortunately ours doesn’t.

BobnBev 10-21-2019 08:50 AM

It all comes down to $$$$$$$. The developer isn't going to pay to make life easier for you.:ohdear:

Altavia 10-21-2019 08:51 AM

Maybe something is wrong with my card but the driver of my Bentley needs to lean way out the window for it to work :)

I'd like to see a more modern implementation for gate access but considering the cost at this point to upgrade, recognize what we have is just part of the charm of living in The Villages.

Chatbrat 10-21-2019 08:51 AM

I does work it some cars, but, all car glass is not equal, especially if your car has sound deadening glass

anothersteve 10-21-2019 08:59 AM

I don't understand the problem. Is it the trouble of lowering your power windows or the massive energy it takes to stick your hand out with card in hand?

Steve

Chatbrat 10-21-2019 09:24 AM

Getting clothing wet and water spotting the interior of your car, also if you have ventilated seats you don't water getting into the seat vents

Chatbrat 10-21-2019 09:42 AM

Just a thought when you go thru a manned gate, the operator presses a hand held device-this means that device could be paired with your car or your garage door opener-zero cost to the developer- used to do it in a community I lived in NC

CFrance 10-21-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1690060)
I does work it some cars, but, all car glass is not equal, especially if your car has sound deadening glass

My card works at some gates but not others. It used to work at Belvedere but no longer does. It has never, ever worked at St. James.


I've noted many times in the last 8 years that sticking my arm out into a torrential downpour, especially when wearing long sleeves, is very uncomfortable. If I wanted to get wet I'd go swimming.

Topspinmo 10-21-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1690083)
My card works at some gates but not others. It used to work at Belvedere but no longer does. It has never, ever worked at St. James.


I've noted many times in the last 8 years that sticking my arm out into a torrential downpour, especially when wearing long sleeves, is very uncomfortable. If I wanted to get wet I'd go swimming.

The gates should open automatically. Not fooling anybody with the red button

Chatbrat 10-21-2019 10:37 AM

And @ a manned gate, many times the attendant opens the gate for me , and as I'm entering the golf cart crossing lane a cart blows thru the STOP sign, still haven't got my quota-OH! golf cart season doesn't open till Nov 1

vintageogauge 10-21-2019 11:58 AM

The card beats punching in a 6 digit code to open the gate.

rjm1cc 10-21-2019 12:06 PM

Stickers on the car windows would be an improvement.
Since the roads are open to the public removing the gates would also be an option.

Bogie Shooter 10-21-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1690057)
It all comes down to $$$$$$$. The developer isn't going to pay to make life easier for you.:ohdear:

The developer isn't the one who would pay......

coffeebean 10-21-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 1690017)
Years ago, when we had a torrential downpour, they would raise the gates until it was over. I know that at the St. Charles gate, I can hold my card up to my closed window and it works, and yes, I have tinted windows. Should be like that everywhere.

I frequent the Mallory and Odell south gates. Both gates will open when I place my gate pass to the closed window of my car. So far, anyway.

DeanFL 10-21-2019 12:27 PM


They should really open with just a credit card swipe.

That way they could Bill Gates.






sorry.

Chatbrat 10-21-2019 12:46 PM

I'm willing bet that you could pair the garage door remove that came withe average MVP door opener with the remote that the attendant uses at Belvedere, Bailey Tr, Morse Gates, etc--,again, did it in NC @ a real gated community

birdiebill 10-21-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1690134)
Stickers on the car windows would be an improvement.
Since the roads are open to the public removing the gates would also be an option.

As noted earlier, if there were no gates, golf carts would be in danger anytime they tried to cross. Autos would not even slow down. This is a golf cart community and the gates are designed to slow down autos and permit carts to cross. We all have to share the same roads.

JoMar 10-21-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioViper (Post 1690054)
It does seem the system is outdated. If the card worked from inside your car that would be great. Unfortunately ours doesn’t.

Might depend on how close you are to the reader. Next time you drop you window and use your card note how far the card is from the reader then place your car window about the same distance from the reader and it should work. Took me awhile to figure that out but now have no issue as long as I get close to the reader.

JoMar 10-21-2019 01:55 PM

Also, at the manned gates go through the visitor side and they will open it for you.

anothersteve 10-21-2019 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1690167)
Also, at the manned gates go through the visitor side and they will open it for you.

And then you wouldn't get wet when it's raining, common sense.
Steve

BobnBev 10-21-2019 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1690136)
The developer isn't the one who would pay......

OK, I'll bite, bucko, exactly who would pay if not the developer.:ohdear:

Aloha1 10-21-2019 04:39 PM

We lived on Maui for 17 years in a gated community. A real gate with a call box. Transponders attached to your wind shield gave you entrance as you drove up. Here's the straight skinny: Police and Fire were given 24/7 access codes which morphed into contractors getting access codes, which morphed into a whole bunch of people getting access codes. In other words, unless you have armed guards at the gate, fugettaboutit.

Steve CT 10-21-2019 05:02 PM

Maybe use the existing technology that scans the bar code on your villages ID? Have a bar code made for vehicles and the readers at the gate updated to read them.

Just a thought

Marathon Man 10-21-2019 05:35 PM

I think that they should move the card readers back away from the road. Everyone would need to get out of their card to use the card reader. After a year, put everything back the way it is now. End of complaints.

Polar Bear 10-21-2019 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1690240)
...End of complaints.

On ToTV?!? Good one!!! :1rotfl:

CWGUY 10-21-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1690240)
I think that they should move the card readers back away from the road. Everyone would need to get out of their card to use the card reader. After a year, put everything back the way it is now. End of complaints.

:icon_wink: Didn't you mean to put that in the JOKE THREAD? :1rotfl:

Fast Freddy 10-21-2019 08:52 PM

gate cards
 
I totally agree with the O P, the white gate cards are totally outdated.
If we can open our garages without a card, we can open these gates without a card. Same method.
Since residents are chipping in to pay developer's road expenses, they can chip in for resident conveniences.

twoplanekid 10-21-2019 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1690138)
I frequent the Mallory and Odell south gates. Both gates will open when I place my gate pass to the closed window of my car. So far, anyway.

Gates at both ends of Hillsborough Trail will always open when I place my gate pass to the closed window of my Honda 2017 CRV. Maybe the gates sensors in the newer areas work better than in the older sections??? I have no issues with the gates when I don't have to open a window.

eyc234 10-21-2019 09:41 PM

The Biiiiiig question is how much are you willing to spend to make this change? Nothing but complaints about taxes going up, we should pay for guest and all the new restaurants are too expensive for a "piece of meat". This is where the moderator is correct about debates, it turns into a bashing without obtaining facts, cost and following logical thought processes to determine as many causes, effects and solutions. Why is this even a subject to talk about with the other issues that should be of much more concern. A wet arm 3 times a year is not that big of a deal.

Ooper 10-21-2019 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioViper (Post 1690054)
It does seem the system is outdated. If the card worked from inside your car that would be great. Unfortunately ours doesn’t.

Maybe it is your card. I use my card from inside the window for most gates I go through. You do have to get fairly close but it should work!

retiredguy123 10-21-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast Freddy (Post 1690274)
I totally agree with the O P, the white gate cards are totally outdated.
If we can open our garages without a card, we can open these gates without a card. Same method.
Since residents are chipping in to pay developer's road expenses, they can chip in for resident conveniences.

The white cards are not the same as a garage opener. It is easy for The Villages to control the number of cards issued, and they can deactivate lost or stolen cards. They always know how many cards are being used. A garage opener signal can be copied, with no way to determine who and how many people are using the system. Yes, there are other systems that could be used, but it may require more monitoring to keep track of who can access the gates.

coffeebean 10-22-2019 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1690226)
We lived on Maui for 17 years in a gated community. A real gate with a call box. Transponders attached to your wind shield gave you entrance as you drove up. Here's the straight skinny: Police and Fire were given 24/7 access codes which morphed into contractors getting access codes, which morphed into a whole bunch of people getting access codes. In other words, unless you have armed guards at the gate, fugettaboutit.

in The Villages, it is not about security. It is all about slowing down the cars so the golf carts can proceed at the gates. It would be nice, however, to have some sort of reader in our car and not need to use a gate pass.

I've been delayed at the gate a few times because someone dropped their gate pass or couldn't find their gate pass or wasn't close enough to the reader......you get the point.


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