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graciegirl 12-05-2019 09:00 AM

The weeds that divide us.
 
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Weeds in foundation plantings here in The Villages divide us in many ways. Some of us will always view weeds in mulch as just pure cussed laziness and others will try to convince us we are spoiling the world with herbicides.

What say YOU?

dewilson58 12-05-2019 09:25 AM

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Weeds???.................roll'm & smoke'm












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graciegirl 12-05-2019 09:42 AM

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Weeds???.................roll'm & smoke'm











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That too. I don't smoke and I don't chew and I don't go with boys who do. I don't even drink anymore. (I was never any good at it)

JimJohnson 12-05-2019 09:43 AM

Chemicals cause cancer and retardation. I pull my weeds and use barriers and rock. No mulch and no chemicals.

Madelaine Amee 12-05-2019 10:05 AM

NO chemicals.

Two Bills 12-05-2019 10:51 AM

In UK my wife beats weeds by planting so many flowers, shrubs etc. that weeds can't get a look in. The odd one that penetrates, is quickly pulled.
I do Veg patch, and lawn. Pull the odd weed by hand when they appear.
No Chemical fertiliser, weed control, or bug killers.
Just home made compost, and farm manure. Make our own liquid fertiliser from watered down manure. Works a treat.
Hard work? Sometimes, but a walk round each day, keeps the baddies at bay!
Having said that, lost most of my late leeks this year to a new bug ( Allium Leaf Miner ) I have not had before, and I was late putting the netting over the cabbages to keep off the butterflies, and the resulting caterpillers had a feast!!
You can't win'em all.

graciegirl 12-05-2019 11:07 AM

My husband (mostly) and I work to keep weeds at bay in our foundation plantings, because we were taught to do so and we kinda think not doing it is lazy. We love a pretty yard. Bending over is NOT as easy as it once was and the summer heat is very strong here.

I posted this thread because I know many enjoy a good debate and also knowing we will not change a single person's mind. I am proud to know all of you who work hard in your yards. You know who you are.

OpusX1 12-05-2019 12:07 PM

I keep my weeds at bay by spraying them with soapy vinegar. Takes me about 30 minutes a week in the summer. Less in the dry season.

CFrance 12-05-2019 12:15 PM

I wish people had more weeds so they wouldn't see the dog poop I leave in their yards.:duck:

graciegirl 12-05-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1699493)
I wish people had more weeds so they wouldn't see the dog poop I leave in their yards.:duck:

Dear Crosby's mom.

You just told a fib. Santa is watching.

Merry Christmas.

tophcfa 12-05-2019 01:03 PM

We tried the no chemical weed pulling thing as well as using vinegar and soap. As part time residents it is impossible to keep on top of the weeds. Every time we came to our Villages home we were wasting hours of our precious Villages time pulling weeds. Now we pay our lawn mowing guy to spray our weeds and when we show up at our house the gardens look great, and we can spend our free time golfing, swimming, bike riding, dancing, and doing all the other fun stuff the Villages offers. Blast those suckers with herbicide and don't look back!

JimJohnson 12-05-2019 01:25 PM

I would love to see The Villages allow all rock yards. Very expensive to start, but low maintenance cost.

CFrance 12-05-2019 01:30 PM

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Dear Crosby's mom.

You just told a fib. Santa is watching.

Merry Christmas.

Busted.

JimJohnson 12-05-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1699515)
Busted.

Almost 13000 posts and I can honestly say I have never witnessed a negative post from this person.

:bigbow:

Velvet 12-05-2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1699515)
Busted.

You da funniest. lol

Madelaine Amee 12-05-2019 01:52 PM

It does not matter to me how one keeps down the weeds, or even if one does keep down the weeds, but I would like to see landscapers and other people who work with these chemicals wearing an appropriate mask. I shudder when I see my Massey guys spraying all manner of stuff on my lawn and they have no protection. No OSHA here!

graciegirl 12-05-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1699519)
It does not matter to me how one keeps down the weeds, or even if one does keep down the weeds, but I would like to see landscapers and other people who work with these chemicals wearing an appropriate mask. I shudder when I see my Massey guys spraying all manner of stuff on my lawn and they have no protection. No OSHA here!

I think the exact same thing. Not good to breathe for sure.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-05-2019 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1699519)
It does not matter to me how one keeps down the weeds, or even if one does keep down the weeds, but I would like to see landscapers and other people who work with these chemicals wearing an appropriate mask. I shudder when I see my Massey guys spraying all manner of stuff on my lawn and they have no protection. No OSHA here!

Now consider all those dogs that get walked on the lawns of people who can't stand having the pesticide signs ruining the perfection of their grassy expanses, and remove them within hours of them being placed. And those dogs lick their paws. Or even your own feet stepping on the edge of the property where the spray has drifted, then tracking it back into your home for Rover to roll around in.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-05-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1699511)
We tried the no chemical weed pulling thing as well as using vinegar and soap. As part time residents it is impossible to keep on top of the weeds. Every time we came to our Villages home we were wasting hours of our precious Villages time pulling weeds. Now we pay our lawn mowing guy to spray our weeds and when we show up at our house the gardens look great, and we can spend our free time golfing, swimming, bike riding, dancing, and doing all the other fun stuff the Villages offers. Blast those suckers with herbicide and don't look back!

We had a guy doing herbicide in the garden and front of the house, everything looked very pretty when we first bought the property. We didn't move in right away though. A month later we came down and it was overgrown with weeds. It took me a couple hours, for each of a couple of days, to pull the weeds out.

We were only there a week. Two months later we came down again - overgrown again.

When we finally moved in, I waited for the guy to come and started doing the herbicide again. I told him never mind that, just keep up with the pesticide and herbicide on the lawn, and leave the garden and front alone, I'll just do it by hand since whatever he's been doing, hasn't done any good anyway.

It takes me around two hours, once every 10-14 days. It's good exercise, it gets me out in fresh air, and it's one less set of chemicals I'll have to worry about when I start setting out herb pots.

jswirs 12-06-2019 06:54 AM

As I am now in my 70's, I use what's left of me doing what I enjoy, and that is NOT pulling weeds. Remember, we only get so many bend overs, mine are running out. One final thought on this subject, I have learned that, eventually, WEEDS WIN!!!

bonrich 12-06-2019 08:03 AM

My recipe for a weed killer, natural and no chemicals. It is:
1 gallon of vinegar
1 lb of Epsom salts
1/4 cup of blue Dawn
Mix well, and fill up a spray bottle. Spray weeds in the am and they are dead in the pm. Can make a smaller amount, just cut the ingredients in half.

merrymini 12-06-2019 08:42 AM

Vinegar at 20 percent in a sprayer. Never use chemicals that HD and Lowes loves to sell but will not carry the vinegar which needs to be ordered on line. They make more money on the chemicals. Usually pull by hand. I spend a lot of time in the garden keeping up host and nectar plants for butterflies. The weeds in the ground cover are the worst. I cannot spray them so they must be hand pulled ugh!

asianthree 12-06-2019 10:53 AM

If anyone gets a few weeds, there is a lovely, friendly, person who takes pics, sends you a scathing letter with them. The poor lady next door had recently been diagnosed with CA, and fell a little behind, in weeding, so came the letter. She was in tears, she could hardly sit up much less weed.
Thanks to many who are not so mean, they stop and weed her flowers when out for a walk. It’s good to have helpful neighbors.

graciegirl 12-06-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1699735)
If anyone gets a few weeds, there is a lovely, friendly, person who takes pics, sends you a scathing letter with them. The poor lady next door had recently been diagnosed with CA, and fell a little behind, in weeding, so came the letter. She was in tears, she could hardly sit up much less weed.
Thanks to many who are not so mean, they stop and weed her flowers when out for a walk. It’s good to have helpful neighbors.

Someone did that in your neighborhood? That is awful.

I think 99% fall into the "not so mean" category and also fall into high standards from being raised at a certain time and place.

We were raised (like you) to keep a clean home and to bake and cook and sew and repair and do a lot of things that younger people do not have time for because both working full time.

In my eighty years I have never met a person that would do such a thing as send a note to someone about something like this. I bet you were shocked and saddened and surprised as well.

Merry Christmas Asian Three. (to each and all of you) I never know who is posting...…….

Nucky 12-06-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bonrich (Post 1699668)
My recipe for a weed killer, natural and no chemicals. It is:
1 gallon of vinegar
1 lb of Epsom salts
1/4 cup of blue Dawn
Mix well, and fill up a spray bottle. Spray weeds in the am and they are dead in the pm. Can make a smaller amount, just cut the ingredients in half.

I gave the way that you described a chance. 3 chances actually. I live in the Historical Section and although the ingredients did kill the weeds the weeds were doing weed exercises underground and came back quickly. At least we gave it a chance.

We had to go the less popular route. It's coming up on the 5-month mark in the section we did with an Ortho Product and some grass, not weeds are popping through the decorative wood chips. :popcorn:

NavyVet 12-06-2019 12:18 PM

Weeds happen. You can not fight Mother Nature and win. The "Weed Police" need to chill out and get a life; upsetting neighbors over some living plants is just plain mean. After all, it IS Florida. (1) Expecting senior citizens to slave over their yards is a heat stroke or heart attack waiting to happen. (2) Not everyone has oodles of disposable income to spend on professional services to make the yards look perfect.
Just saying.

rrb48310 12-06-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1699514)
I would love to see The Villages allow all rock yards. Very expensive to start, but low maintenance cost.

We don't have a rock yard but we do have rocks in beds/landscaping with the weed mat stuff. IT DOESN'T WORK, we still get weeds just have to pull and or spray to keep it looking good.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-06-2019 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyVet (Post 1699755)
Weeds happen. You can not fight Mother Nature and win. The "Weed Police" need to chill out and get a life; upsetting neighbors over some living plants is just plain mean. After all, it IS Florida. (1) Expecting senior citizens to slave over their yards is a heat stroke or heart attack waiting to happen. (2) Not everyone has oodles of disposable income to spend on professional services to make the yards look perfect.
Just saying.

Somewhere in the middle is a viable option for the vast majority of residents, while also complying with the deed restrictions.

Nothing says it has to be perfect. It just has to be maintained. If you have a few weeds here and there, oh well, they'll be gone next time you or whoever does your lawn goes through it. If you (or they) miss one, I'm sure it's no effort to yank it up from the lawn on your way to setting the trash down at the end of your driveway.

And if it IS an effort, there's probably a nosy neighbor who loves nothing more than to mind YOUR business, who would be chomping at the bit to pull it out on your behalf. Invite them to do so, it'll make their day.

grooms 12-07-2019 05:34 PM

How much soap and how much vinegar? Thanks

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-07-2019 05:45 PM

Just remember - natural does not necessarily mean safe OR eco-friendly. Vinegar and salt will kill weeds. It will also destroy the soil by sucking the nutrients from it. Then you'd have to add more fertilizer. And that would make the soil more fertile, which would grow more weeds, etc. etc.

As NavyVet said - you will never eradicate weeds. Weeds will always win. Maintain however you want, but it will never be effortless no matter what method you try. Either you, family/friends/neighbors, or someone you hire, will have to work a bit of physical labor on a regular basis to keep the weeds under control. Like it or not, humans are no match for Mother Nature.

Topspinmo 12-08-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1699432)
Chemicals cause cancer and retardation. I pull my weeds and use barriers and rock. No mulch and no chemicals.

The problem with barrier and Rock over years the rock filled up with dirt, now the weeds take root over the barrier. Which means you have to constantly pull or spray with roundup ( just like the crack line in you’re driveway). Around my house over the years and several owners the barrier has multiple holes from previous plants that died out.

I removed the rock, sifting out the dirt, cleaned and patched the barrier, leveled the ground, aNd put the clean rock back down. Unless you have the 15 to 20 year old yard re-matted you’re going to have lots of weeds. Neighbor across from me had his yard scraped clean, re-matted and new rock put down. Will see how long it take’s for weeds to start popping up.

OhioBuckeye 12-08-2019 11:36 AM

I always said you always know what the inside of a house looks like by how much pride people have in their lawns & flower beds. You know the percentages are in my favor! Not trying to be a know it all but if you get the chance to go into a home with a weed infested property. I bet the inside of their homes look about the same! But I think about everybody in TV’s have a lot of pride!


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