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manaboutown 01-22-2020 04:23 PM

Is anyone canceling travel plans due to the Coronavirus?
 
I am considering doing so. Coronavirus death toll rises to 17, heightening global alarm | Fox Business

Kenswing 01-22-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1711798)

It might keep me from travelling to China for awhile but other than that I'll travel as I always would..

manaboutown 01-22-2020 05:24 PM

I remember going on a two for one price to Hong Kong at the tail end of the SARS outbreak without any problem. However this virus looks like a serious threat if it is not quickly contained.

Apparently discounted flights to China from the USA, as low as $300, are already being offered to the public.

Two Bills 01-22-2020 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1711798)

Just to put a bit of perspective on the problem.
3,287 deaths a day in the USA by car accidents!
Unless going to infected areas in China. Why?

billethkid 01-22-2020 10:36 PM

No!
You are in more danger in either your golf cart or family car and you still do it every day!!!

PS...do not go to China

manaboutown 01-23-2020 12:22 PM

Deadly Chinese coronavirus 'can spread through coughs and sneezes' | Daily Mail Online

ColdNoMore 01-23-2020 01:39 PM

China quarantines in effect (poke here)


Quote:

China quarantines 20 million people in 3 cities; coronavirus vaccine could be 3 months away.


Americans face little risk from the deadly new coronavirus spreading across China and a vaccine could be ready for human testing within three months, the nation's leading expert on infectious disease says.

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, provided the upbeat message Wednesday as authorities in China suspended planes, trains and ferries in and out of three cities with a combined population of almost 20 million people.

Public transports also has been mostly suspended within Huanggang, Ezhou and Wuhan, the city of 11 million serving as the epicenter for the virus. More than 500 people in China have been diagnosed with the virus and at least 17 have died.

Coronavirus: Here's what airlines and airports are doing to safeguard passengers

A small number of cases have been diagnosed in other countries, including one case in Washington state. Airports in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Atlanta and San Francisco have stepped up health checks for passengers arriving from China.


tophcfa 01-23-2020 09:10 PM

Not changing travel plans, but next time I order a beer I will get a Budweiser instead of a Corona. Something about drinking a beer that has the same name as a deadly virus just doesn’t seem right?

PanamaKim 01-24-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1711798)

Quite the opposite, I’m watching for deals to China now. Maybe they will need to boost tourism due to folks cancelling trips.

eeroger 01-24-2020 07:33 AM

If I had trip insurance, you bet I would cancel a trip overseas. It is even scary in the states. Just yesterday, two Chinese in TX boasted how they got through customs with a fever.

collie1228 01-24-2020 08:59 AM

I have a trip to Beijing scheduled for the end of February, and will probably postpone it. My travel insurance doesn't specifically apply to a disease breakout, so I'm probably not going to be able to get a full refund. My ticket is non-refundable, but for a couple hundred dollars I can make changes. I'll probably go that route. Why take a chance - this is a nasty virus and the number of people effected in China is growing exponentially.

OhioBuckeye 01-24-2020 09:15 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1711876)
No!
You are in more danger in either your golf cart or family car and you still do it every day!!!

PS...do not go to China

Why would anybody want to go to China right now anyhow. Why is it so important to go there while they have a virus? Might as well go to Iran. I say wait until they get this under control, why take a chance!

manaboutown 01-24-2020 03:01 PM

46 Million Chinese Are Now Under Quarantine - More Than The Entire State Of California | Zero Hedge

63 suspected US cases; three confirmed cases in US so far.

"This Time I'm Petrified": Virologist Who Helped Discover SARS Offers Chilling Take On Coronavirus Outbreak | Zero Hedge

ColdNoMore 01-24-2020 04:50 PM

It's becoming a lot more serious...that's for sure. :ohdear:

manaboutown 01-24-2020 07:41 PM

Video: Dramatic footage shows people collapsing suddenly in Wuhan city | Daily Mail Online

Altavia 01-25-2020 05:42 AM

Good info here:

New Coronavirus from China FAQ

" Of the 17 people who have died during the current outbreak, most had underlying health conditions such as high blood pressure, diabetes or heart disease, said WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus."

jacksonbrown 01-25-2020 07:47 AM

Your Chance of Dying From the Menacing Coronavirus That Now Threatens Global Human Populations Is 0.0000001137% - LewRockwell

Two Bills 01-25-2020 08:47 AM

The press and tv news channels are not going to down play the situation, bad news, over dramatised, increases fear in the general public, and sells lots more papers and advertising space.

KSSunshine 01-25-2020 09:33 AM

Catching the Corona virus in a foreign country doesn't sound appealing. We had planned to go to China in October 2020, but never got around to booking it. If we had, I probably would not have cancelled. I remember the SARS virus in early 2000s and still traveled to Trinidad as well as domestically. Lots of people on the plane wearing masks and elbow bump instead of handshakes. If you're going, purchase medical insurance for abroad. As others have pointed out, there are many vehicular deaths and we all still drive!

blueash 01-25-2020 10:41 AM

If this year is typical over 30,000 Americans will die of an airborne contagious disease. These deaths, just like coronavirus, can happen to anyone including healthy people but predominantly will occur in those with other health issues. And no one is telling you to cancel any travel plans in the US to avoid this highly contagious disease. And it happens every single year.

Now all we have to do is await the breathless coverage on TV calling for closing our borders to anyone from China and blaming the administration for not protecting us from this disease which will ravage our nation. But of course no responsible media would try to whip up panic like that would they? /s

manaboutown 01-25-2020 12:55 PM

An update from the BBC: China coronavirus spread is accelerating, Xi Jinping warns - BBC News


and CBS: China coronavirus outbreak: Hong Kong declares emergency and closes schools

ColdNoMore 01-25-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1712561)
If this year is typical over 30,000 Americans will die of an airborne contagious disease. These deaths, just like coronavirus, can happen to anyone including healthy people but predominantly will occur in those with other health issues. And no one is telling you to cancel any travel plans in the US to avoid this highly contagious disease. And it happens every single year.

Now all we have to do is await the breathless coverage on TV calling for closing our borders to anyone from China and blaming the administration for not protecting us from this disease which will ravage our nation. But of course no responsible media would try to whip up panic like that would they?


You are correct, no "responsible media" would push their long-held agenda...using this as a smokescreen. :oops:


As for this virus, here's hoping they get a handle on it...very soon. :(



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bilcon 01-26-2020 10:24 AM

:bigbow::1rotfl:Just try and cancel your trip because of a scare of the virus and see what your travel insurance says.

asianthree 01-26-2020 01:54 PM

Hong Kong Disney closed, with no reopening date

manaboutown 01-26-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1712912)
Hong Kong Disney closed, with no reopening date


I think HK schools have been closed, too.

Also: 4th US case of coronavirus confirmed as death toll rises to 56 in China - ABC News

Kenswing 01-26-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1712921)

Meanwhile as many as 20,000 have died from the flu this season. That's just in the U.S. Let's keep things in perspective..

2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season: Preliminary Burden Estimates | CDC

manaboutown 01-26-2020 03:23 PM

Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program - Washington Times

asianthree 01-26-2020 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=Kenswing;1712928]Meanwhile as many as 20,000 have died from the flu this season. That's just in the U.S. Let's keep things in perspective..


The post is are you or would you cancel travel plans. Not sure why perspective you need to stay in

manaboutown 01-26-2020 05:01 PM

I have two trips scheduled in February for my son and myself. I used miles to obtain nonrefundable tickets. I am considering driving two days rather than taking connecting flights over a single day.

This is why. Most of the flus and colds I have had over the past 30 years I have picked up on planes and in airports as I flew a lot, several years over 100K miles. I would much rather forfeit the miles and drive than pick up this pneumonia-like coronavirus on a plane or in an airport. I am 78 years old and have already had pneumonia twice. Therefore I am watching to see how this all develops.

Thanks to all of you who have replied sincerely with thoughtful opinions.

Bjeanj 01-26-2020 05:07 PM

From what I’m reading, this is spread just like the common cold and symptoms don’t appear from 1-14 days while still being infectious, so I’m guessing this is going to circle the globe in the next few months. How does one screen for a disease with no symptoms? With that being said, if I plan on traveling in the next little while, I believe I would rather drive than fly.

Why is it that so many diseases start in China, anyway? Or is that a misperception on my part?

Bjeanj 01-26-2020 05:09 PM

Interesting article:

Bill Gates warns that the next pandemic disease is coming - Business Insider

Kenswing 01-26-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1712947)
The post is are you or would you cancel travel plans. Not sure why perspective you need to stay in

You don't believe that perspective plays a role in the decision making process?

collie1228 01-27-2020 12:42 PM

According to a report this morning on NPR, the CDC is now considering certain specific travel bans. I am waiting to see if this comes to fruition before I change my travel plans to Beijing at the end of February. If the CDC restricts travel, there is no way a travel insurance company could refuse coverage.

ColdNoMore 01-27-2020 01:11 PM

Apparently, concern of this outbreak is even affecting...worldwide stock prices.


DJIA - Coronavirus Concerns (poke here)

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Stock market news live: Stocks slump as coronavirus death toll rises.


Global equity markets slumped Monday as fears over the deadly coronavirus flared further. The sell-off kicked off a busy week for potentially market-moving earnings and economic data releases – including U.S. fourth-quarter GDP and a Federal Reserve rate decision – on a volatile note.


graciegirl 01-27-2020 01:51 PM

The CDC estimates that there are about 50,000 deaths from the flu or flu like illness every year.

2018 2019 flu deaths - Bing

golfing eagles 01-27-2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1711828)
Just to put a bit of perspective on the problem.
3,287 deaths a day in the USA by car accidents!
Unless going to infected areas in China. Why?

Let's put a better, more accurate perspective on this:

"The table below shows the motor vehicle fatality rate in the United States by year from 1899 through 2017.. For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data shows 5 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, an average of 102 per day. In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes, 30,296 deadly, killing 32,999, and injuring 2,239,000.
YEAR
DEATHS
VMT– VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED (BILLIONS)
FATALITIES PER 100 MILLION …
2018
36,560
3,223
1.13
2017
37,133
3,213
1.16
2016
37,806
3,174
1.19
2015
35,485
3,095
1.15"

600th Photo Sq 01-27-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1711798)

One word .... NO

manaboutown 01-28-2020 06:33 PM

It appears this deadly virus is propagating in a geometric progression, and discovered to be passing from human to human in Germany, not good! Coronavirus outbreak: Americans hope for evacuation from Wuhan as death toll rises

billethkid 01-28-2020 07:23 PM

Interesting article with comparisons to other epidemics;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...b3a_story.html

There are many article like this already written.
The media does not do any justice to educate the public. Sensationalism reigns in the media hence the need to seek other sources for REAL knowledge on the subject.

Fredman 01-28-2020 11:11 PM

Coronavirus
 
No more Chinese food for me:bigbow:


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