Restrictions In Different Areas
 

Hello all. Thinking of buying in the not too distant future.

I will have lots of questions before I purchase, but a couple for now.


Are there different restrictions in different areas of TV? For example: Where can you park a small boat/jet ski/lawn mower etc. on your own property?

Also, while looking at a map of the different districts, I saw one area marked as "enclave parcel." What does this mean?

Thanks for all replies.

27/441 and below does not allow any storage of boat, jet ski, mowers, RVs on your property unless it is in your garage.

So, if I am looking at the map correctly, the homes north and east of the main portion of TV across the Golf Cart Bridge into "Orange Blossom" allow these things. Is this correct?

Here are the restrictions:




Village Community Development Districts

The deed restrictions for that area of The Villages is much less strict, but it's also out of date and parts of it completely obsolete. For instance they require that only double-wides be allowed to be placed on any property there. Now, in actuality, if you tear down an old mobile home in the Historic section (as it is called), you must replace it with a "site-built" home. You are no longer allowed to replace it with another mobile home.

Yes, you can put a lawnmower in your driveway. However, if you use your driveway to store your 40-foot RV, you will likely **** off your neighbors, who enjoy a more reasonable view of their neighborhood.

There are RV storage facilities nearby, both covered and uncovered. The same goes for boats - I mean, if you have a canoe you can just up-end it and lean it against the wall in your storage shed. Or even hang it over the sliding doors into the house from the lanai, as a decorative touch.

Just because something isn't forbidden, doesn't mean it's a great idea to do it. There are folks whose families come in RVs to visit for a few days - I personally think that's fine, but when it's your RV and you're using your driveway to store it, it crosses the line of impropriety - whether or not it's strictly "allowed" or "forbidden."

Thank you. As I understand this they may vary by: County> District> Unit.

So I should check each prospective purchase this way for restrictions?

Thank you. No RV. 16' boat. Jet ski. Riding mower. Jet ski and mower probably inside depending on existing garage, or if I am allowed to build a garage.

Not sure what you mean by "out of date and obsolete." Wouldn't the requirement of stick built homes be an update? Or, are you saying the restrictions have been amended but not as they should be? In other words (I have not seen them) do they still mean what they say?

As with any home purchase.

Where do you get your information; and when was that revision made and not officially amended. It was just a couple of years ago that a fire victim replaced their manufactured with another manufactured in the Village of Silver Lake!

Is that recent? A friend of ours mother passed away a few years ago. She owned a double-wide in the Historic Section. Our friends had it torn down and a brand new custom built double-wide rolled in on the property (admittedly with LOTS of red tape). This was 2 years ago. What they told us was at that time any old manufactured home a family sells back to The Villages is taken away and a new site-built home is put in it's place. This was their property and they were told as long as they got proper permits and it met all current code requirements they could roll in a replacement which they did.

Unless it has changed in 2yrs which is possible I believe that only applies to homes either abandoned or sold back to the Villages by families who previously lived there. See my last post above this.

This is a very interesting conversation...I thought regulations within TV would be the same. I recall my first visit 4 years ago, and was told at the sales office that ‘code enforcers’ ride through TV neighborhoods in golf cars & look for property violators, including a garage door that is left open & found to still be open 2 hours later. This salesperson stated that the homeowner would receive a notice reminding them of TV regulations. I plan to move to TV this year & rent while looking for my perfect home/neighborhood. I will be asking these questions, this is the reason I am drawn to TV & away from my northern neighborhood that I’ve loved for 25 years. The ‘Old School’ has closed, and pride in homeownership is going, going, gone...

Only time community watch called us about our garage door being up was at 2am. Making sure we were aware. We were leaving to go to the airport. Also called us that 2 newspapers were in our drive, while we were at Disney. They picked them up, put them at our front door. The enforcers are a neighbor who thinks you are doing it wrong

Same here. Very helpful.


Not a Nazi group driving around with a clipboard looking for violations.

if you go to the links provided every time anyone links to them on ToTV, you will see only the original documents to area 7 (which is the area you seem to be interested in).

The original documents were written a few decades ago and the link itself was never updated.

This is one of the reasons why new potential homeowners get so confused and frustrated when we ask about restrictions and are directed to those links.

ALL the links state no aerial antennae are allowed. And yet - they are allowed. ALL the links state no clotheslines are allowed. And yet - they are allowed. State law allows them, and state law prohibits communities from forbidding them.

It still isn't a good idea to do these things, because neighbors are going by the restrictions even though the restrictions are not enforceable. You -cannot- be fined for having a clothesline in your back yard. However, you CAN be visited every single day for the rest of your life when your neighbor complains that you have one, because the people paid to check out complaints, have to do that every time one comes in.

You basically have to weigh your priorities. Is it that important to put a jet-ski that you won't be using more than 2-3 months out of the year, in your driveway where its very existence is likely to create hostility among your otherwise peaceful neighbors? If so, go for it. If not, store it somewhere.

Most properties on this side of the Villages are modular/mobile/manufactured homes. They are on small lots without room for expanded garages. Some do have room, most do not. Most of them don't have any garage at all; instead, they have car ports and attached laundry sheds.

Also just as an aside - you really won't have any need for a lawn tractor at a home in the historical side of the villages. The properties themselves are small. If you are in fit condition you could use a non-powered hand-mower; a 2HP gas powered push-mower is more than sufficient.

A lawn tractor would just be more stuff taking up room on property that has very little storage space.

some of the new homes in marsh bend & over in linden have sizeable garages, maybe take a look over there,?

Many pay thirty five dollars a month for grass cutting, but that is year around. It is much less expensive here than it is where most of us are from.

This is very confusing to most people who live in the "Historic" section, because we don't live in a CDD at all. Also almost all of the information about rules and regs, policies and maintenance/infrastructure pertains specifically to Sumter County, not Lake or even Marion.

There is a CDD 7, which includes Odell Circle but not anything on the other side of 441.

But on the other side of 441, where I live near the country club, my deed restriction is for "L7." Our district doesn't have a number.

My property isn't even one of those "enclave parcels" whatever that means, according to the district map.

The fact that these deed restrictions are outdated, include incorrect information, and parts of them cannot be enforced, means that *someone* has neglected to keep these things up to date.

Even in the condos I lived in, back north, had yearly updates and addendums that were made available to every single property owner and tenant, and updates were available online and at the town engineer's office.

Down here, the deed restrictions aren't even a hyperlink. They were typed on a manual typewriter and poorly photocopied, the copy poorly scanned, and then uploaded. They really need to make this easier for the current generation of "old folks" to read. Most of us are computer literate and can see clearly that this was all done in the age of the dinosaur and no one bothered to update it.

That's because the "Historic District" is not one of the VCDD districts, it's a part of The Villages, but are under Lake County. There are also no bonds or maintenance assessments in the "Histric District".

:) For the people that don't know where to look and/or don't open any links:


:ho:

The Lady Lake / Lake County portion of The Villages consists of 5,693 home sites that are located in the Town of Lady Lake and a portion of un-incorporated Lake County. The Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages is not located in the geographical boundaries of a Community Development District, but is in the service area of the Village Center Community Development District (VCCDD).

Among the services provided by VCCDD to residential properties in Lady Lake/Lake County are security, fire and emergency medical first response (non-transport) services, recreational facilities and services, stormwater collection and distribution and treated effluent distribution, and executive golf. These services are paid for through the receipt of monthly contractual amenity fees paid by each residential property within the service area of the VCCDD, as described by the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions applying to each residential property.

The Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages is governed by the VCCDD. In addition, the VCCDD provides common area maintenance and Deed Compliance services. The Amenity Authority Committee (AAC) is a committee of the VCCDD that oversees amenity fee revenues and expenditures and related policies for properties in the VCCDD service area. A resident from the Lady Lake/Lake County portion of The Villages serves on the AAC.

Ohiobuckeye
 

Sorry, but how did this comment & the answer to this question get on lawn mowers? Don’t get your answer!

:ohdear: IMHO the question was asked by OP and everything after post #4 where it was answered is :blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah: Including this post :oops:

:icon_wink: I'm surprised the SPCA doesn't get on us for the way we love to beat a dead horse.......:0000000000luvmyhors

Thank you. This is what I have found confusing. Although I have bought 5 homes, I have never seen anything similar to the way these "districts" are structured.

This is helpful. :coolsmiley:

Thanks for all the replies.

Just to be clear: I don't want to park anything in the driveway except for an SUV or a small pickup truck. The small boat would be under a carport, in a garage, or covered and parked in a side or back yard depending on the lot. I don't have or want a canoe.


Same for the jet-ski. BTW We use them 5-6 months of the year here in VA. I don't know why they would only be used 2-3 months of the year in FL.

I like cutting my own grass and a manual push mower is out of the question. I don't think a small riding mower will be a problem, I probably should not have even mentioned it.

Have you visited TV. The lots are postage size. Unless you are on an oversized lot, your back yard may only be 5 to 10 feet. Side yard 10’, or less. Anything parked outside and covered would not make many happy to look out their window to see a blue tarp.

I have driven through the area, have not visited. I have looked at many listings online. I have google mapped most of the area and I think I may be able to find what I am looking for. Maybe not.

I would not use a "blue tarp" to cover a pile of manure. The manure would look better.

I think a visit is in order for you to get a better understanding of what is going on...………
BTW beyond the historical side......nothing is parked in a side or back yard.

Against the rules. No jet ski or small boat..

So to give you an idea lawn ornaments are not allowed. One can only put out holiday decorations for 30 days. There is even a problem with tiny white cross in yards.

Yes. If I read the correct restrictions, it/they would have to be inside a garage.

Yes, of course. In fact I plan an extended visit before I buy.

But, I have already learned a lot from this forum and other online sources.

All comments appreciated. :)

Yeah. And this is the sort of thing I will need to consider making my decision. I am a live and let live sort of guy. I have read stories of people being upset in TV because they don't like where a neighbor's satellite dish is installed. There are federal guidelines about those and you can't just put one in a place to suit your neighbor. They have to be situated in line of sight of the satellite.

I will be downsizing from a home situated on 13 acres and a 4 acre lawn. I know this will be a big change for me and will require some concessions on my part, but I'm tired of the upkeep. I love the thought of jumping on my own golf cart and driving to a course nearby, or not so close for that matter, as well as the other things TV has to offer.

Ohiobuckeye
 

OK, got it now,sorry, thanks!

There aren't any federal guidelines about parking a jet ski on your lawn. That's up to the deed restrictions, and there's one part of the deed restrictions that is present in all of them - it has to do with aesthetics.

Yes it's a loose guideline, it's not strictly defined. There's no clear line as to what violates it and what doesn't. But I'd have to say that if I look out my window, and the view between the yard and the neighbor's yard is blocked by an RV, then whoever owns that RV is violating that rule of aesthetics. You're not allowed to have fences, and hedges can't be more than 4 feet high. So there's no way in hades that they're going to let you keep an RV or any other "tall thing" in your yard. Not the back yard, side, or front yard.

You won't see cars on cement blocks even in the old section where the restrictions are looser. You won't see people changing the oil in their driveways. We're not quite as perfect and pristine as our "lower" neighbors but we do like things to look relatively tidy. A jet-ski in the driveway 24/7 is not tidy. A lawnmower can easily be hidden behind the golf cart, but a lawn tractor can't. If your home comes with a golf cart garage, you could certainly store the tractor in there, and leave the golf cart in the driveway. But then it'll be subject to the elements and rain storms on upholstery isn't much fun when you have to drive in the thing the next day.

I never said there were federal guidelines about parking anything. It was an illustrative point about what can upset a neighbor.

You keep talking about RV's which I don't have, nor have asked about.

As far as changing oil and vehicles on cinderblocks, I don't see where either has anything to do with my questions.

I made it clear what I intend to park in the driveway. I also stated I have read and understand the restrictions vis-a-vis the parking of boats.

I was giving examples of the types of things that would be over the top. Since, when you first posted, you didn't say what kind of boat you had, and you didn't say in your first post that your lawnmower was a lawn tractor...

So rather than account for every possible thing you didn't say but actually meant to include, I figured I'd give an example of the TYPES of things that would be tolerated and the TYPES of things that would not. Your mileage may vary.

I change my vehicles oil in my driveway. As far as I know there are no restrictions on that anywhere in TV.
Steve

I don't know how you would know what I meant to include. I included everything I meant to include.

If it is important, and makes a difference to you, my boat is a vintage 1972 Checkmate. It is a 16 foot long speed/ski boat. It is about 2 feet tall and metalflake blue.

As far as the riding mower, I have 4 or 5 of those but will probably buy a new one to suit the needs once I buy my new place. Also, I never used the term "lawn tractor." I don't know why, but you did. No I did not say it and don't understand why you think I should have.

Can't imagine any neighbor will be excited about a boat, a mower, a RV, a sofa, a service truck, or a hot tub being stored on a driveway.


That's jus me.