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Roaddog53 02-28-2020 02:44 PM

Here is What the Director of Golf is Talking About
 
It was raining steadily. 2 walkers, a man and woman, were playing in the rain with no cares at all. They walked up ONTO THE GREEN with their pull carts all over while they putted each time. Even to the pin. Than walked off the green. Had to have been snowbirds. lol. Playing in the rain since they don't get to play up north and wanted to get some golf in. Oh, they went to the next tee and kept playing.

alwann 02-28-2020 02:55 PM

What he means
 
If you were close enough to see this, did you say anything to them?

NotGolfer 02-28-2020 03:46 PM

Then the adage is true...that there are "some" who don't know enough to come in out of the rain. I do agree though...probably snowbird/renters who want to get their $$$$ worth before heading north. I wouldn't care---getting wet and chilled wouldn't have been worth it to me.

rjn5656 02-29-2020 06:19 AM

Did you go to the starter shack or pro shop and let them know.

dewilson58 02-29-2020 07:36 AM

Here is What the Director of Golf is Talking About


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Bay Kid 02-29-2020 07:40 AM

I saw that happen a couple of years ago. Even pulled his cart through the sand traps, of course he didn't rake. Not even raining, just stupidity. Never saw the ranger. Reported at end of the round for what that was worth.

karostay 02-29-2020 07:46 AM

Golfing ambassadors are like Barney Fife...There for show not enforcement

drcar 02-29-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1722772)
Golfing ambassadors are like Barney Fife...There for show not enforcement

I love it when some makes a statement with no idea what they are talking about.

dewilson58 02-29-2020 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1722780)
I love it when some makes a statement with no idea what they are talking about.




Back atcha.

anothersteve 02-29-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1722780)
I love it when some makes a statement with no idea what they are talking about.

Yep. I'll go as far to say they are the ones that think they are God's gift to golf and don't have to obey the rules either.
Steve

stan the man 02-29-2020 09:14 AM

When in Rome do as the Romans do

karostay 02-29-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1722780)
I love it when some makes a statement with no idea what they are talking about.

Ones intelligence does stand out ?

ColdNoMore 02-29-2020 11:32 AM

I'm not really sure what the big issue is here? :confused:

Depending on the type of pull/push-carts, I'll bet a lot of them put less pressure per square inch on the greens...than a lot of really big people I see walking on them. :shrug:

Unless the cart folks are making sharp turns and somehow putting furrows in the greens...which would be unacceptable.

Then again, I come across a LOT of greens where it looks like some players in front of me have lost the ability to lift their feet...and can only shuffle/scuff their way along. :oops:


jswirs 03-01-2020 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1722911)
I'm not really sure what the big issue is here? :confused:

Depending on the type of pull/push-carts, I'll bet a lot of them put less pressure per square inch on the greens...than a lot of really big people I see walking on them. :shrug:

Unless the cart folks are making sharp turns and somehow putting furrows in the greens...which would be unacceptable.

Then again, I come across a LOT of greens where it looks like some players in front of me have lost the ability to lift their feet...and can only shuffle/scuff their way along. :oops:


No way any pull carts should be on a green. No excuses, if you can't take your putter out of your bag and walk the green you should not be playing golf.

ColdNoMore 03-01-2020 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 1723072)
No way any pull carts should be on a green. No excuses, if you can't take your putter out of your bag and walk the green you should not be playing golf.

Well, I guess your "opinion"...isn't universally shared. :D

But hey, who's ever even heard of those nondescript dog tracks...mentioned in the article? :oops:



Push/Pull carts on greens (push/pull here)

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I took the photos above and below at Victoria Golf Club, near Melbourne, Australia, in 2010. (The Australian Masters was played at Victoria that year and the next.) Players there are asked to roll their push carts and pull carts not just over the tee boxes but across the greens, to keep the fringes from being beaten up by concentrated foot traffic.

Other Sandbelt courses have the same policy—including Royal Melbourne and Kingston Heath, which are ranked No. 22 and No. 11, respectively, on Golf Digest’s list of the 100 Best Courses Outside the United States. Ditto Bandon Dunes (although at Bandon golfers with carts are asked to cross the greens only, and not to park their carts on them).

These practices makes perfect sense, because a push cart weighs much less than a greens mower. Or a tee mower. Or any of the guys that you or I play golf with. So lighten up, enemy club.


You're welcome. :ho:



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Two Bills 03-01-2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 1723072)
No way any pull carts should be on a green. No excuses, if you can't take your putter out of your bag and walk the green you should not be playing golf.

Players weigh more than pull carts and bag of clubs, so maybe the players should stay off the greens, and use very long putters from the fringe.:icon_wink:

Wife and I always walk courses, and personally I have never seen a pull cart on any green, or going into a sand trap.
However, I have seen golf carts on the edge of greens and on fringes on the odd occasion.

rjsantos592 03-01-2020 07:16 AM

Maybe you should become an ambassador

theruizs 03-01-2020 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1722911)
I'm not really sure what the big issue is here? :confused:

Depending on the type of pull/push-carts, I'll bet a lot of them put less pressure per square inch on the greens...than a lot of really big people I see walking on them. :shrug:

Unless the cart folks are making sharp turns and somehow putting furrows in the greens...which would be unacceptable.

Then again, I come across a LOT of greens where it looks like some players in front of me have lost the ability to lift their feet...and can only shuffle/scuff their way along. :oops:


I think it’s the pull carts that are the problem. They shouldn’t be on the greens in good weather, let alone when they are wet.

jedalton 03-01-2020 07:27 AM

not true
 
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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1722772)
Golfing ambassadors are like Barney Fife...There for show not enforcement

we are there for enforcement but politely.

ColdNoMore 03-01-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1723091)
I think it’s the pull carts that are the problem. They shouldn’t be on the greens in good weather, let alone when they are wet.


Please read Post #15.
:ho:

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drcar 03-01-2020 08:16 AM

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:
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Originally Posted by jedalton (Post 1723097)
we are there for enforcement but politely.


kenoc7 03-01-2020 08:42 AM

Golf carts on greens
 
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Originally Posted by Roaddog53 (Post 1722600)
It was raining steadily. 2 walkers, a man and woman, were playing in the rain with no cares at all. They walked up ONTO THE GREEN with their pull carts all over while they putted each time. Even to the pin. Than walked off the green. Had to have been snowbirds. lol. Playing in the rain since they don't get to play up north and wanted to get some golf in. Oh, they went to the next tee and kept playing.

Do you realize that in many places golfers are encouraged to walk across the greens with their pull carts because it saves wear and tear in the same places on the fringe? Pull carts are much lighter than the equipment used on the greens by ground staff and do no damage to greens.

dewilson58 03-01-2020 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1723142)
Do you realize that in many places golfers are encouraged to walk across the greens with their pull carts because it saves wear and tear in the same places on the fringe? Pull carts are much lighter than the equipment used on the greens by ground staff and do no damage to greens.




:1rotfl:

Need to press the B.S. button.


No place is pulling a cart across a green is appropriate golf etiquette.

DonH57 03-01-2020 09:02 AM

When I've used my three wheeled push cart I never placed it on a tee box, green, or bunker.

JoMar 03-01-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1723142)
Do you realize that in many places golfers are encouraged to walk across the greens with their pull carts because it saves wear and tear in the same places on the fringe? Pull carts are much lighter than the equipment used on the greens by ground staff and do no damage to greens.

And if you believe that there is some swamp land available you can get real cheap

CTKID 03-01-2020 11:25 AM

Confused by the logic
 
If the justification for rolling hand carts across the greens is because they cause damage when rolled on the fringe / rough in the same place over and over, how does it not apply to the green?

Just being respectful to other golfers, the course and the game I have never rolled a hand cart onto a green. Never even thought about doing it.

yabbadu 03-01-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Roaddog53 (Post 1722600)
It was raining steadily. 2 walkers, a man and woman, were playing in the rain with no cares at all. They walked up ONTO THE GREEN with their pull carts all over while they putted each time. Even to the pin. Than walked off the green. Had to have been snowbirds. lol. Playing in the rain since they don't get to play up north and wanted to get some golf in. Oh, they went to the next tee and kept playing.

Where and when did the Director of Golf talk about this??? If you want quote someone please refer to where and when this statement was made!

ColdNoMore 03-01-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1723146)
:1rotfl:

Need to press the B.S. button.


No place is pulling a cart across a green is appropriate golf etiquette.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1723158)
And if you believe that there is some swamp land available you can get real cheap

Y'all really should read ALL of the posts in this thread. :oops:

Start with #15...then click the link.

You're welcome. :ho:



ColdNoMore 03-01-2020 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1723142)
Do you realize that in many places golfers are encouraged to walk across the greens with their pull carts because it saves wear and tear in the same places on the fringe? Pull carts are much lighter than the equipment used on the greens by ground staff and do no damage to greens.

Yep. :thumbup:

Sometimes, all you can do is provide facts, with proof...and just hope that is enough.
:ohdear:

JoMar 03-01-2020 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1723079)
Well, I guess your "opinion"...isn't universally shared. :D

But hey, who's ever even heard of those nondescript dog tracks...mentioned in the article? :oops:



Push/Pull carts on greens (push/pull here)




You're welcome. :ho:



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Just because one course in Australia allows it doesn't make it right. There is less than one square inch supporting the weight of the cart and the bag and when they turn one of the wheels is staggered and may not rotate. Since there are many here that don't fix ball marks or spike marks it probably wouldn't make much difference. Also, iff it wasn't an issue I suspect thousands of the good golf courses would allow it.....and they don't.

ColdNoMore 03-01-2020 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1723322)
Just because one course in Australia allows it doesn't make it right. There is less than one square inch supporting the weight of the cart and the bag and when they turn one of the wheels is staggered and may not rotate. Since there are many here that don't fix ball marks or spike marks it probably wouldn't make much difference. Also, iff it wasn't an issue I suspect thousands of the good golf courses would allow it.....and they don't.

Read it again it's not just one Australian course...it's three (at least). :oops:

In fact, two of them are..."ranked No. 22 and No. 11, respectively, on Golf Digest’s list of the 100 Best Courses Outside the United States."

Are those "good enough" golf courses...to meet your criteria? :ohdear:

And maybe you haven't heard of Bandon Dunes here in the good old USA, but you may be surprised...if you make the effort to research.
:ho:

anothersteve 03-01-2020 10:16 PM

I don't give a crap what is allowed on other courses around the country, or the world for that matter, walking on the greens with a pull or push cart is frowned upon here in the Villages. Ask about it, on any Champ course, to any of the head pros, they will give you the info you don't want to hear.
Steve

dewilson58 03-02-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1723328)
I don't give a crap what is allowed on other courses around the country, or the world for that matter, walking on the greens with a pull or push cart is frowned upon here in the Villages. Ask about it, on any Champ course, to any of the head pros, they will give you the info you don't want to hear.
Steve




Agree.


Some posters just want use Google to try to be contrary and attempt to say, "Look at me.". What's funny is................most don't care to look. :clap2:

ColdNoMore 03-02-2020 06:51 AM

What's even funnier (sadder?), are those who have the attitude of..."I couldn't care less about facts and have the right...to be wrong." :ohdear:

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duffersue 03-02-2020 10:36 AM

Evidently you don't know the rules of golf. Funny you are.

ColdNoMore 03-02-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by duffersue (Post 1723437)
Evidently you don't know the rules of golf. Funny you are.


Please do share...your proclaimed expertise.

Where in the "Rules of Golf"...is this even addressed?


:popcorn:

walterray1 03-02-2020 01:23 PM

I suppose you are ok with people (with reasonable accommodation tag) parking their golf cart right in front of the green as well. Too many people haven't a clue about golf etiquette. Taking a push/pull cart onto the green in any weather is not appropriate. If you are healthy enough to walk the course you should be able to walk a few feet to the green without your cart.

ColdNoMore 03-02-2020 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by walterray1 (Post 1723480)
I suppose you are ok with people (with reasonable accommodation tag) parking their golf cart right in front of the green as well. Too many people haven't a clue about golf etiquette. Taking a push/pull cart onto the green in any weather is not appropriate. If you are healthy enough to walk the course you should be able to walk a few feet to the green without your cart.

You "suppose" wrong, even though.....

Please research the term 'PSI'...then let's discuss further. ;)

I know, I know...facts can be so limiting.
:ho:

Polar Bear 03-02-2020 10:38 PM

Worst thread title ever.

villageuser 03-03-2020 06:13 AM

Walking in the rain
 
Very interesting thread regarding compression of grass and rules as it pertains to golf courses. I agree people should read all the posts before they make an uninformed comment.
Mine is regarding walking in the rain. I love people embracing life and nature, which includes walking in the rain. It makes one feel young again. Now that I know that couple did not hurt the course in any way, or not more so than any other human, I applaud them even stronger, for “seizing the moment”. I wish more people would be like that.


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