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jimbo2012 03-13-2020 12:22 PM

Gov Ron DeSantis steps in to secure TV for Corona
 
JUST IN: On recommendation of Gov. Ron DeSantis and government health officials, today’s St. Patrick’s Day Festival at Lake Sumter Landing is canceled. In addition, all nightly entertainment on the Town Squares is cancelled indefinitely. Also, the Old Mill Playhouse and the Barnstorm Theatre will cease operation at the close of business today.


The real ? IMO why didn't TV do it on their own?:ohdear:



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alwann 03-13-2020 12:41 PM

Virus
 
A lot of businesses that pay rent in The Villages will be hit hard. I wonder if the owner has any thoughts about giving them some leeway. I'd hate to see any of them go belly up because of this confusing mess.

dewilson58 03-13-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1727167)
The real ? IMO why didn't TV do it on their own?:ohdear:
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They did.

jimbo2012 03-13-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1727180)
A lot of businesses that pay rent in The Villages will be hit hard. I wonder if the owner has any thoughts about giving them some leeway. I'd hate to see any of them go belly up because of this confusing mess.

SBA will give gap loans

So will local banks

EdFNJ 03-13-2020 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1727167)
JUST IN: On recommendation of Gov. Ron DeSantis and government health officials, today’s St. Patrick’s Day Festival at Lake Sumter Landing is canceled. In addition, all nightly entertainment on the Town Squares is cancelled indefinitely. Also, the Old Mill Playhouse and the Barnstorm Theatre will cease operation at the close of business today.


The real ? IMO why didn't TV do it on their own?:ohdear:

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That's exactly what I have been saying since this all started especially after the last couple days. While I am not a supporter I give him a big thumbs up for taking that very smart step. Despite all the nay-sayers it was the right thing to do.

CoachKandSportsguy 03-13-2020 01:06 PM

Many organizations fear nuisance lawsuits if not backed up by a government recommendation. The court system in the US has no nuisance filter, which is why nothing happens until everything happens.

YMMV

EdFNJ 03-13-2020 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1727186)
They did.

Probably because they were told to. As of 10AM this morning they hadn't according to the guys at the gates blocking the entry to the square. Something obviously "prompted" them. At 10AM the food trucks were preparing their food so they had no idea at least at that time.

jimbo2012 03-13-2020 01:10 PM

Just a guess, someone called his office to apprise him of the risks in TV gatherings

Chatbrat 03-13-2020 01:31 PM

MVP should suspend all operations

xkeowner 03-13-2020 01:52 PM

As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

CWGUY 03-13-2020 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1727167)
JUST IN: On recommendation of Gov. Ron DeSantis and government health officials, today’s St. Patrick’s Day Festival at Lake Sumter Landing is canceled. In addition, all nightly entertainment on the Town Squares is cancelled indefinitely. Also, the Old Mill Playhouse and the Barnstorm Theatre will cease operation at the close of business today.


The real ? IMO why didn't TV do it on their own?:ohdear:



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Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1727196)
Probably because they were told to. As of 10AM this morning they hadn't according to the guys at the gates blocking the entry to the square. Something obviously "prompted" them. At 10AM the food trucks were preparing their food so they had no idea at least at that time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1727193)
That's exactly what I have been saying since this all started especially after the last couple days. While I am not a supporter I give him a big thumbs up for taking that very smart step. Despite all the nay-sayers it was the right thing to do.

:ohdear: Must be where the expression "Damn if you do and damn if you don't." comes from. Why can't you just be happy they are closed..... maybe not on in the time frame you would have liked..... but closed. How many people run your business? 140,000? :popcorn:

Chatbrat 03-13-2020 01:57 PM

Tag you lose if you get the virus & tag you die if you're over 75

NotGolfer 03-13-2020 02:23 PM

I posted this on another thread....might bear reading it here as well. A friend shared this with me this a.m. My take is...this is a new virus, I get that. BUT what did everyone do with the flu outbreaks where LOTS more people died etc? You can't live with "what if's".....

************************************************** *******************

I want everyone to take a big, deep, calming breath.

I’d like to give you all a true glimpse into American healthcare and how it works, for it seems that much of the population is a bit out of touch.

Firstly, It is shocking to me how many people are concerned with their health all of a sudden. While you’re freaking out about somebody infecting you with this horrible virus, maybe put your cigarettes away, or take your medication, or eat a vegetable for once.

Shocker: It is not standard procedure to test for COVID-19. There are a number of boxes that must be ticked first, before any healthcare professional in the state of Indiana will even consider it.

If you come into the ER, urgent care, or see your regular doctor and your symptoms are mild, you are going to be going home with instructions to rest, hydrate, and treat your symptoms with over the counter medication. We may test for the flu, because it is simple, cost-effective, and yields a result (we can offer you Tamiflu). There is not a simple, cost-effective test for COVID-19. There is also very little we can do with the information, if we get it. Knowing that one is positive for this novel coronavirus may help guide treatment in some ways (isolation, shared practice knowledge), but the test itself will mean next to nothing. We treat each patient differently, based on the symptoms or distress that each patient is experiencing.

Symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, cough, and shortness of breath. Unless you are in respiratory distress, don’t even try to go to an ER. You will be sent home after waiting miserably for hours, with a big bill for your trouble. This is one of the reasons healthcare professionals can’t stand panic and hysteria-it fills our offices and emergency departments with people who should be at home resting, instead.

Per the CDC, this virus is primarily spread by people who are symptomatic. In the majority of cases, you will not spread anything to anyone else unless you are ill yourself.
Actionable things:
-Take care of yourself: eat well, stay hydrated, take your medications/vitamins, and stop freaking out (it weakens your immune system)
-Wash your hands often and don’t share things or touch your face.
-Stay home if you are unwell. (Apparently, an abundance of TP helps with this 😂)
-Keep up with the Lysol and the Clorox (and read the labels, you’d be shocked how much time it takes to properly sanitize something!)

I am an immunocompromised ICU nurse. I am not worried or afraid. These things are all second nature to me. We have to help each other out a bit, here. Quit whining about restrictions, quit panicking to no end, and just keep doing what needs to be done. Think about others for a change, too. This whole major freak-out that’s happening across the world right now? Welcome to the daily life of a family with a special needs child, or a cancer patient, or an elderly person, etc. Have some compassion and just take a deep breath.

And for goodness’ sake, if they develop a vaccination for this, remember how you feel right now and GET IT!

jimbo2012 03-13-2020 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1727211)
As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

Ask the folks in Milan Italy if they think it would have been prudent to be cautious

B767drvr 03-13-2020 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1727211)
As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

An absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Buffalo Jim 03-13-2020 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1727190)
SBA will give gap loans

So will local banks

Were you a Banker ? Ever have any dealings with The SBA especially at the time of a crisis ? Not exactly so easy . And I was a Banker for over 35 years .

stan the man 03-13-2020 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1727186)
They did.

$$$$$

Buffalo Jim 03-13-2020 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 1727195)
Many organizations fear nuisance lawsuits if not backed up by a government recommendation. The court system in the US has no nuisance filter, which is why nothing happens until everything happens.

YMMV

Very true and one of the major reasons outside of any government ordered closing mandates is " FOL " .

FOL stands for " Fear of Litigation " . FOL now drives nearly everything in the USA now .

billethkid 03-13-2020 03:46 PM

Reality?
How many friends, neighbors or relatives who are currently on a cruise or on the way home from one.....it has been recommended they self quarantine for 14 days when they arrive home.

Unfortunately we all know, too many will not follow through and hunker down. All we can do is remind those we know.

Too many still deny or refuse to acknowledge there is a problem.

dewilson58 03-13-2020 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1727196)
Probably because they were told to.


:1rotfl::1rotfl:


Governor called The Villages and told them.




:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yung Dum 03-13-2020 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1727211)
As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

Not an overabundance of caution. Just the right amount. Zero cases also the right amount. Let's try to keep it at zero. Be cautious.

jimbo2012 03-13-2020 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1727256)
Were you a Banker ? Ever have any dealings with The SBA especially at the time of a crisis ? Not exactly so easy . And I was a Banker for over 35 years .

Sba has an office on Powell Rd, it is not hard if County Economic dept is involved, in fact depending on the financials he may find a deal without sba

It's very doable Citizens bank is sitting on cash they want to place.

Packer Fan 03-13-2020 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1727263)
Reality?
How many friends, neighbors or relatives who are currently on a cruise or on the way home from one.....it has been recommended they self quarantine for 14 days when they arrive home.

Unfortunately we all know, too many will not follow through and hunker down. All we can do is remind those we know.

Too many still deny or refuse to acknowledge there is a problem.


I am sorry, the world has gone insane. My wife is a Triage Nurse, and her and all the doctors she works for think this is INSANE unless you do the same thing for the Flu and the common cold. We should be taking precautions for people with comprimised immune systems and moving on. We did not do this for H1N1 (Swine flu) in 2009 which was much worse as far as how it was transmitted and how many died. China is back to basically normal at this point, and we have gone off the deep end. I would encourage those of you who are younger, strong, and in good health to go out and buy things and eat at local restaurants to support the community. You are about a million times more likely to get the flu than Covid-19.... unless you got the flu shot, then you are still about 1000 times more likely. If you don't get the flu shot every year, you should shut up because you don't even deserve an opinion on this.

Wrecking a bunch of Teenage basketball players seasons was totally unecessary as was ruining peoples vacations.

What the hell are we going to do when we have an illness that is really bad and actually has high morbidity rates than Pnuemonia?

The main people getting hurt by this are the servers in the stadiums and restaurants....Not rich retirees.

spuds51 03-13-2020 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1727211)
As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

Possible...hope so...we won't really know for a few weeks. It was just 3 or 4 weeks ago there were only 9 confirmed cases in Italy. Now the whole country is shut down.
Think of all the people that just got off cruise ships and airplanes that are in the villages. It can be 2 weeks or more before symptoms occur from what I read.
To be honest I am really surprised that the villages have not done something sooner being how pretty much the entire population falls under the most volnerable catagory. It's pretty naive to believe no one in the villages will get this thing. the idea is to cantain it.
Good luck to all.

kittygilchrist 03-13-2020 06:11 PM

[QUOTE=jimbo2012;1727167]JUST IN: On recommendation of Gov. Ron DeSantis and government health officials, today’s St. Patrick’s Day Festival at Lake Sumter Landing is canceled. In addition, all nightly entertainment on the Town Squares is cancelled indefinitely. Also, the Old Mill Playhouse and the Barnstorm Theatre will cease operation at the close of business today.



I guess most of us don’t know that Desantis was exposed last week, as was Trump, in meetings with Brazilian Prez Bolsonaro. Sobering for him I would guess. It is 2 + 2 that we in tv are sitting ducks. We are old and we constantly mingle in crowds, with visitors from all over. What a nightmare. I am happy with today’s governmental proactivity. It was just in time for us.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-13-2020 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1727211)
As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

As of 1:53 pm, there were 56 cases in Florida. 45 are residents. 5 are repatriated. 6 are non-residents. 221 pending test results, up from 147 yesterday. 365 people being monitored.

Broward County has more cases of it than any other county in the state. Most cases are travel-related. Of the remaining cases, most of them are still under investigation and a source of infection has not yet been determined.

You can find all of this information here:

COVID-19 | Florida Department of Health

it's updated at least a couple times every day.

Travelingal702 03-14-2020 06:35 AM

$$$$$$$$

Craig Vernon 03-14-2020 06:54 AM

For now I don't think so...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1727211)
As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" Ben Franklin. I am sorry to hear of all the cancellations and closings but TV is high risk due to the age of the population. Even though it would seem at this point that this is seasonal meaning it dies in heat nobody seems sure of anything. Temporary distancing to prevent any introduction into TV is crucial. Golf can still be played at a six foot distance. Stay Well All!

dcurrie947 03-14-2020 07:23 AM

The best medication for this virus is stop watching the news. Instant healing!

Hplaw 03-14-2020 07:36 AM

So we rented a place in TV for the month of April. Reading the information of closures, panic buying of supplies/food I am rethinking the visit. I am not so afraid of the virus as I am of the situations I will encounter with traveling there and ability to get things needed for a month with the panic buying. Would you still come?

Jonesltc 03-14-2020 07:56 AM

It would appear that someone needed to take charge, the neat thing about ther Villages is our independence. The bad thing about the the Villages is our independence, we govern by committee, thus no one can make a hard decision. Net result some one from the outside has to lead us.

Diverdave 03-14-2020 08:49 AM

Amen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1727223)
I posted this on another thread....might bear reading it here as well. A friend shared this with me this a.m. My take is...this is a new virus, I get that. BUT what did everyone do with the flu outbreaks where LOTS more people died etc? You can't live with "what if's".....

************************************************** *******************

I want everyone to take a big, deep, calming breath.

I’d like to give you all a true glimpse into American healthcare and how it works, for it seems that much of the population is a bit out of touch.

Firstly, It is shocking to me how many people are concerned with their health all of a sudden. While you’re freaking out about somebody infecting you with this horrible virus, maybe put your cigarettes away, or take your medication, or eat a vegetable for once.

Shocker: It is not standard procedure to test for COVID-19. There are a number of boxes that must be ticked first, before any healthcare professional in the state of Indiana will even consider it.

If you come into the ER, urgent care, or see your regular doctor and your symptoms are mild, you are going to be going home with instructions to rest, hydrate, and treat your symptoms with over the counter medication. We may test for the flu, because it is simple, cost-effective, and yields a result (we can offer you Tamiflu). There is not a simple, cost-effective test for COVID-19. There is also very little we can do with the information, if we get it. Knowing that one is positive for this novel coronavirus may help guide treatment in some ways (isolation, shared practice knowledge), but the test itself will mean next to nothing. We treat each patient differently, based on the symptoms or distress that each patient is experiencing.

Symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, cough, and shortness of breath. Unless you are in respiratory distress, don’t even try to go to an ER. You will be sent home after waiting miserably for hours, with a big bill for your trouble. This is one of the reasons healthcare professionals can’t stand panic and hysteria-it fills our offices and emergency departments with people who should be at home resting, instead.

Per the CDC, this virus is primarily spread by people who are symptomatic. In the majority of cases, you will not spread anything to anyone else unless you are ill yourself.
Actionable things:
-Take care of yourself: eat well, stay hydrated, take your medications/vitamins, and stop freaking out (it weakens your immune system)
-Wash your hands often and don’t share things or touch your face.
-Stay home if you are unwell. (Apparently, an abundance of TP helps with this 😂)
-Keep up with the Lysol and the Clorox (and read the labels, you’d be shocked how much time it takes to properly sanitize something!)

I am an immunocompromised ICU nurse. I am not worried or afraid. These things are all second nature to me. We have to help each other out a bit, here. Quit whining about restrictions, quit panicking to no end, and just keep doing what needs to be done. Think about others for a change, too. This whole major freak-out that’s happening across the world right now? Welcome to the daily life of a family with a special needs child, or a cancer patient, or an elderly person, etc. Have some compassion and just take a deep breath.

And for goodness’ sake, if they develop a vaccination for this, remember how you feel right now and GET IT!

You are 100% on target!

Thank you for your clear and specific advice on how to deal with this. GOD BLESS YOU!

Love2Swim 03-14-2020 08:55 AM

2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)
as of 12:54 a.m. ET 3/14/2020

Positive Cases of COVID-19
70 – Florida Residents
6 – Florida Residents Diagnosed and Isolated Outside of Florida
7 – Non-Florida Residents

Deaths
3 – Florida Residents

Number of Negative Test Results
478

Number of Pending Test Results
221

Number of People Under Public Health Monitoring
365 – currently being monitored
1413 – people monitored to date

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-14-2020 08:59 AM

I find it interesting that they have canceled all of the outdoor town square activities while leaving the indoor rec centers open. My understanding is that it's more unlikely to contract the virus outdoors than it is indoors.

Why are Resident Lifestyle Clubs still being allowed to meet?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-14-2020 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcurrie947 (Post 1727490)
The best medication for this virus is stop watching the news. Instant healing!

Sorry, but I think that's the worst thing that you can possibly do. We just shouldn't bury our heads in the sand pretending that this thing doesn't exist or isn't serious. For the most part, the residents of The Villages are in the most endangered demographic. We really need to be aware of what's going on.

NotGolfer 03-14-2020 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1727568)
I find it interesting that they have canceled all of the outdoor town square activities while leaving the indoor rec centers open. My understanding is that it's more unlikely to contract the virus outdoors than it is indoors.

Why are Resident Lifestyle Clubs still being allowed to meet?

I would think that the individual clubs can decide whether they're going to meet or not.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-14-2020 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1727211)
As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

We've all seen how quickly this virus has spread. Do you suggest that we wait until there are thousands of cases in The Villages before we do anything?

As Dr Fauci stated, it is better to do too much than not enough.

Bill32 03-14-2020 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1727256)
Were you a Banker ? Ever have any dealings with The SBA especially at the time of a crisis ? Not exactly so easy . And I was a Banker for over 35 years .

I would imagine that much of the "red tape" delaying loans will be eased during this crisis...

Bonnevie 03-14-2020 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1727211)
As of 7:20 am today, according to the Florida Department of Health website, there are 45 total cases in Florida and ZERO in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties. An overabundance of caution?

The Florida Department of Health confirmed 25 new cases early Saturday morning, one who is not a Florida resident, bringing the total cases in the state to 77.

apparently they update after midnight

OhioViper 03-14-2020 11:14 AM

I agree, as a 46 year banker working with the SBA is not easy. And while banks will also be trying to help we have to remember that in order to get any loan you must first qualify. Any business that doesn’t have resources in reserve will be struggling in short order.


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