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MOMOH 03-25-2020 06:01 AM

Do you think the virus will be under control by Easter? (approx 3.5 weeks from now)
 
Given the statistics, and what has happened in China, Italy, Spain, New York, etc., (AND DON'T INVOLVE POLITICS), do you think the country will really be ready to re-open by Easter? Easter is April 12th.

Two Bills 03-25-2020 06:03 AM

The mayor of New York may have a conflicting opinion concerning that date

retiredguy123 03-25-2020 06:07 AM

Easter is 18 days from today. More like 2 1/2 weeks.

OCsun 03-25-2020 07:06 AM

Two and 1/2 weeks not three and 1/2 weeks! We all hope this is the case but I find it hard to hear stupid stuff like that when American's in New York are facing the real possibility of not enough ventilators.
I wish all of our politicians and news reporters could state the facts and real solutions. There is no need for hours of face time with off the subject thoughts and feelings. It's just not helpful!

Chatbrat 03-25-2020 07:33 AM

No, with people being permitted to enter Fl and other states from infected areas will allow this virus to IMHO be a threat to at least mid-summer, unlike China we are not a dictatorship, and control is not that strict

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-25-2020 07:39 AM

Of course it won't be "ready to open" by Easter. It's a ridiculous expectation and only the gullible would believe it.

That isn't the point though. The point is - someone expects it to be open by Easter ANYWAY. Whether it's ready or not.

Chi-Town 03-25-2020 07:43 AM

I heard that churches will be packed on Easter Sunday.

skip0358 03-25-2020 07:44 AM

No I hope I'm wrong but I think we're only getting started.To many people are not following the suggested rules, traveling, going anyway they feel they want to. My guess we'll be lucky IF we're ready for 4th of July without stricter mandates. The more testing that's being done is turning up more cases of the virus and people are still worried about vacations really ? would you want to go on a cruise ship with a quick turn around from previous cruise or an airplane with your lucky the trash was picked up or a long car trip with rest areas shut down and people from god knows where traveling. Nope staying put period.

JerryLBell 03-25-2020 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1733152)
I heard that churches will be packed on Easter Sunday.

If they are, the congregants will be nominees for Darwin Awards.

DeanFL 03-25-2020 07:48 AM

COUNTRY "ready to be open" is way too broad and all-encompassing.

I believe the intent (and Pres Trump's declaration) meant to imply NOT the ENTIRE USA. But, as he finally confirmed after being questioned, it MAY apply to those areas of the country that show no or very little CV-19 infections. As of now, and perhaps 2 weeks from now as well, there are so many areas not affected or have few infections. They should follow the guidelines to limit or stop CV-19 spread.

Of course much of the northeast, northwest, southwest, upper midwest, and perhaps south FL will prob be quarantined for many weeks as dictated by the testing population data.

Mosells 03-25-2020 07:51 AM

We can only hope, that’s what the president is doing providing hope.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-25-2020 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1733158)
COUNTRY "ready to be open" is way too broad and all-encompassing.

I believe the intent (and Pres Trump's declaration) meant to imply NOT the ENTIRE USA. But, as he finally confirmed after being questioned, it MAY apply to those areas of the country that show no or very little CV-19 infections. As of now, and perhaps 2 weeks from now as well, there are so many areas not affected or have few infections. They should follow the guidelines to limit or stop CV-19 spread.

Of course much of the northeast, northwest, southwest, upper midwest, and perhaps south FL will prob be quarantined for many weeks as dictated by the testing population data.

Those areas that are not infected - unless they SHUT down and stay down, will soon become hotspots for "refugees" from the infected states to flee to in the hopes that they'll find safety and good health there. And of course - it's inevitable that some of them will themselves be infected and spread to those currently-healthy states.

That is what happened in Florida.

Think of it as a rust spot on a car. You can cut the rust out but if you don't protect the edges it'll not only get rusty again, it'll spread and rust the whole thing.

Altavia 03-25-2020 08:05 AM

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billethkid 03-25-2020 09:24 AM

With the total lack of control of who comes into the state from where along with far too many not adhering to the avoidance guidelines......the potential seems to be FL could be much worse by Easter.

Koapaka 03-25-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1733164)
Those areas that are not infected - unless they SHUT down and stay down, will soon become hotspots for "refugees" from the infected states to flee to in the hopes that they'll find safety and good health there. And of course - it's inevitable that some of them will themselves be infected and spread to those currently-healthy states.

That is what happened in Florida.

Think of it as a rust spot on a car. You can cut the rust out but if you don't protect the edges it'll not only get rusty again, it'll spread and rust the whole thing.

And not getting political, we also need to be concerned about Mexico and transit thru it into the US as they are just now starting to bloom in number of cases. They seem to be behind us at least 2 weeks or so in cases reported (we have no way of knowing how many are actually ill and able to get tested or not). With the Canadian boarder, I have more confidence in the stats being reported by a non impoverished "land connected" route into the US.

B767drvr 03-25-2020 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1733249)
With the total lack of control of who comes into the state from where along with far too many not adhering to the avoidance guidelines......the potential seems to be FL could be much worse by Easter.

I agree. Weeks ago I said the US needed a total lockdown to burn the virus out. That opportunity came and went. Pragmatically speaking, our leaders are now BALANCING infections/death and economic destruction.

I agree with the epidemiologists that say "most" of us (~70%) will become infected. Life will not "return to normal" until we have a vaccine (~18 months away). Again, this is what top epidemiologists are stating. (I'm just agreeing.)

This is going to be a long period of disruption to normal routine for everyone, especially our vulnerable population. It appears the current thinking is to "open up" the country and perhaps quarantine the most vulnerable.

go4fpsb 03-25-2020 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1733171)
Coronavirus Act Now


CovidActNow.org was created by a team of data scientists, engineers, and designers in partnership with epidemiologists, public health officials, and political leaders to help understand how the COVID-19 pandemic will affect their region.

This tool is built to enable political leaders to quickly make decisions in their Coronavirus response informed by best available data and modeling.

We built this tool to answer critically important questions such as:

What will the impact be in my region be and when can I expect it?
How long until my hospital system is under severe pressure?
What is my menu of interventions, and how will they address the spread of Coronavirus?

Who built this tool?

CoVidActNow was founded by Max Henderson, Rep Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins, Igor Kofman, and Zack Rosen, with medical and policy guidance from Nirav R. Shah (MD, MPH, senior scholar, Stanford University Clinical Excellence Research Center).

I guess I don't understand the chart showing available hospital beds at something around 30,000. I am reading it wrong?. Total hospital beds are 924,000.

Velvet 03-25-2020 10:54 AM

Some parts of the US where there are few cases could be open right now. So yes they’ll be ready by Easter. But when you look at heavily impacted states or hot areas, those will not be ready to “open” by Easter and if they are “forced” to there will likely be a second wave in my opinion, like in Singapore. Rules were relaxed too soon.

jebartle 03-25-2020 11:33 AM

1st and foremost, it's American lives, think we can all agree.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-25-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1733345)
Some parts of the US where there are few cases could be open right now. So yes they’ll be ready by Easter. But when you look at heavily impacted states or hot areas, those will not be ready to “open” by Easter and if they are “forced” to there will likely be a second wave in my opinion, like in Singapore. Rules were relaxed too soon.

The parts where there are few cases, are the parts where "people worried about catching it in their own areas" go. And they will bring their germs and virii with them.

As long as people can GET from point A to point B, no place is immune to this thing.

Altavia 03-25-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by go4fpsb (Post 1733327)
I guess I don't understand the chart showing available hospital beds at something around 30,000. I am reading it wrong?. Total hospital beds are 924,000.

That chart is Florida only.

gadaboutgal 03-25-2020 12:03 PM

I believe that each state will again decide one by one whether to open their restrictions. I don't think those states, like New York, currently completely locked down are going to be ready to lift all restrictions.
As far as Florida, I think our state government will lift all restriction in less than 4 weeks.

ShaSha 03-25-2020 12:12 PM

Wake up Villagers!
 
The rest of the world is suffering tremendously. And we are concerned that we cannot go on with our FAIRYTALE life. We can all do our part. STAY HOME!!!
Watch TV. Call people to say : how you doing? Go outside for a walk. If you have been charitable all your life - be charitable now. Think about others please. Italy has left people over the age of 60 with no ventilators. They will just die. Lord knows I don’t want it to come to that extreme. Just think about TV. Most of us are over 60...

Villageswimmer 03-25-2020 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaSha (Post 1733395)
The rest of the world is suffering tremendously. And we are concerned that we cannot go on with our FAIRYTALE life. We can all do our part. STAY HOME!!!
Watch TV. Call people to say : how you doing? Go outside for a walk. If you have been charitable all your life - be charitable now. Think about others please. Italy has left people over the age of 60 with no ventilators. They will just die. Lord knows I don’t want it to come to that extreme. Just think about TV. Most of us are over 60...


Best post I’ve seen in a while. Thank you and welcome to the forum.

Topspinmo 03-25-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1733148)
Of course it won't be "ready to open" by Easter. It's a ridiculous expectation and only the gullible would believe it.

That isn't the point though. The point is - someone expects it to be open by Easter ANYWAY. Whether it's ready or not.

Let’s see what does “hope” “plan” “ hopefully” mean? Nobody said we WILL be open by then, but for the good of the county hopefully we will. IMO I dough we will. But I HOPE most of country will be able to get people back to work. There that HOPE or plan or hopefully again. It don’t mean WILL.

Topspinmo 03-25-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gadaboutgal (Post 1733389)
I believe that each state will again decide one by one whether to open their restrictions. I don't think those states, like New York, currently completely locked down are going to be ready to lift all restrictions.
As far as Florida, I think our state government will lift all restriction in less than 4 weeks.


Not if NYC area keep coming down here affected.

Topspinmo 03-25-2020 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1733345)
Some parts of the US where there are few cases could be open right now. So yes they’ll be ready by Easter. But when you look at heavily impacted states or hot areas, those will not be ready to “open” by Easter and if they are “forced” to there will likely be a second wave in my opinion, like in Singapore. Rules were relaxed too soon.

Nobody going to force them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-25-2020 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1733443)
Let’s see what does “hope” “plan” “ hopefully” mean? Nobody said we WILL be open by then, but for the good of the county hopefully we will. IMO I dough we will. But I HOPE most of country will be able to get people back to work. There that HOPE or plan or hopefully again. It don’t mean WILL.

Read the poll question:
Quote:

Do you think the country will be ready to re-open by Easter? (April 12th)
I answered the question that was asked.

chrisinva 03-25-2020 02:15 PM

I already miss my Peeps.

Bogie Shooter 03-25-2020 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1733443)
Let’s see what does “hope” “plan” “ hopefully” mean? Nobody said we WILL be open by then, but for the good of the county hopefully we will. IMO I dough we will. But I HOPE most of country will be able to get people back to work. There that HOPE or plan or hopefully again. It don’t mean WILL.

Spreading false or unrealistic hope doesn't help at all.

Tom C 03-25-2020 02:34 PM

Things are still changing WAY TOO FAST.

The best indicator of how many people feel about the future is probably how the markets are changing. ... and we all know how that is whip-sawing back and forth.

I remain hopeful, and if we all can keep up on vigilant cleaning and distancing, the resolution of this will be here sooner and for the better.

Stay healthy! :thumbup:

Silver Streak 03-25-2020 02:55 PM

We need to keep in mind that the places with the most positive cases are almost universally ALSO the places that are doing lots of testing. Until widespread testing is available (and it's nowhere near that yet), we have no idea how many people are infected and spreading this thing around. Hong Kong did a quick lockdown with good results....then relaxed the restrictions too soon and now they're seeing a surge in infections. We should NOT do that! Especially here, with it's preponderance of residents over 60.

Velvet 03-25-2020 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1733152)
I heard that churches will be packed on Easter Sunday.

Noooo! Please don’t go seriously, the Creator has given you brains and expects you to use it! Miracles are strictly for very special occasions.... lol

Topspinmo 03-25-2020 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1733453)
Spreading false or unrealistic hope doesn't help at all.

Polls are BS, I hope I am wrong? Especially when there political overtones buried. I hope I am wrong?

Lottoguy 03-25-2020 04:28 PM

Trump just threw a date out there to see what the reaction would be. The state governors are the people who will decide when we get back to normal.

ColdNoMore 03-25-2020 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1733152)
I heard that churches will be packed on Easter Sunday.

I wonder why, given what this scumbag, conman...is advocating. :mad:

Simply sickening.
barf


ColdNoMore 03-25-2020 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1733453)
Spreading false or unrealistic hope doesn't help at all.

Along with leadership, that seems to be like watching...a ping-pong ball or a yo-yo. :oops:

Velvet 03-25-2020 05:31 PM

...

Joanne and Mike 03-25-2020 06:07 PM

My concern is that if our economy collapses, society as we know it will be destroyed. Our money will be worth nothing. There will be no food, no supplies, no services, no law and order and no healthcare. We can forget about quality of life and life as we know it. People will die from starvation and lack of care. There are no easy alternatives, but everything hinges on stabilizing our economy.

Velvet 03-25-2020 06:27 PM

Yes, but on the other hand, if we die because of the virus, our money won’t be worth much to us anyways. First things first.


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