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village dreamer 03-25-2020 05:31 PM

new holeless pin
 
the wife and i played turtle mound today, we liked the pvc around the hole.:bigbow:

ColdNoMore 03-25-2020 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1733600)
the wife and i played turtle mound today, we liked the pvc around the hole.:bigbow:

It's actually just the regular cup...left above ground.

To approximate normal conditions, my groups have instituted a rule that if your ball hits the raised cup it must stay within "gimme range" (18")...to be considered "holed out."

If something similar to that rule isn't used, a lot of folks would be banging their ball at the cup pretty hard, just trying to hit the now raised cup, whereas it probably would have been hit too hard...and wouldn't have fallen in the hole under normal conditions. :shrug:

It is nice though, that you don't have to put your hand down in the cup now, where LOTS of other hands...have gone before. :thumbup:

anothersteve 03-25-2020 05:52 PM

A "rule" for your group is fine, let everyone else decide what's GTG for themselves and have fun with it. Oh, and on Palmer it is a PVC pipe and not an upside down cup.

N44125 03-25-2020 06:05 PM

Hawks Bay today had PVC inserts. Also, no rakes in sand traps, starter advised you can still hit from the trap and smooth the sand with your foot, or lift ball and hit from outside the trap. Worked for us.

golfing eagles 03-25-2020 06:21 PM

After I saw that on the 1st green, I looked for the windmill and the clown's mouth on #2:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

kcrazorbackfan 03-25-2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by N44125 (Post 1733617)
Hawks Bay today had PVC inserts. Also, no rakes in sand traps, starter advised you can still hit from the trap and smooth the sand with your foot, or lift ball and hit from outside the trap. Worked for us.

Not raking the traps or smoothing their footprints is nothing new for a lot of people. I've started taking my own rake on the off chance I hit into a trap.

Mleeja 03-25-2020 07:16 PM

No holes in one for awhile.

DonH57 03-25-2020 09:17 PM

Wow. Really I think I'll set aside playing golf and find things to do around the house.

ColdNoMore 03-25-2020 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by N44125 (Post 1733617)
Hawks Bay today had PVC inserts. Also, no rakes in sand traps, starter advised you can still hit from the trap and smooth the sand with your foot, or lift ball and hit from outside the trap. Worked for us.

I had been told that they were going to just leave the cups above the hole, so they could still have the flags, but admit....I haven't actually seen them yet.

Will hopefully be able to see for myself by Saturday.

fredputtputt 03-26-2020 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1733626)
After I saw that on the 1st green, I looked for the windmill and the clown's mouth on #2:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Are we to assume that the PVC is a response to COVID 19 and not an attempt to reduce maintenance costs an will revert to normal shortly.

dewilson58 03-26-2020 05:06 AM

Great Idea.


Really does not change the game.


No body in TV is getting a check based on their score.


Play Ball!!

Challenger 03-26-2020 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fredputtputt (Post 1733741)
Are we to assume that the PVC is a response to COVID 19 and not an attempt to reduce maintenance costs an will revert to normal shortly.

Yes-Intelligent response to this and other diseases.

noslices1 03-26-2020 05:57 AM

Same on Amberwood

ladyarwen3 03-26-2020 06:55 AM

We played Walnut grove and they did not have the PVC pipes yet (pool noodles cut up are also effective). I wish they did. We were paired with 2 lovely gentlemen but they did NOT practice any social distancing or safety procedures. Both came over to withing 2 feet of our cart at the starter shack and attempted to shake our hands; they kept lifting the pin to putt, etc. I gave them both a paper towel soaked with alcohol to wipe their hands and asked them politely to stay away. Neither of them were taking this too seriously. They were much older than hubby and me by at least 10 years.

How can we get the message out to others that we are NOT being unfriendly, but trying to keep us (and THEM) safe?

Drdoug49 03-26-2020 07:14 AM

I saw the same thing yesterday on a golf course. I politely and firmly said “ please stay 6 feet away and practice social distancing “. They followed my instructions thankfully

Windguy 03-26-2020 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1733605)
It is nice though, that you don't have to put your hand down in the cup now, where LOTS of other hands...have gone before. :thumbup:

Well, maybe a person ahead of you coughed on his ball before he hitting it against the cup. Now your ball hits the cup in the same spot and gets the virus on it and then you pick it up. It may be low odds (certainly better than reaching into the cup), but it’s possible. I hate the idea of using sanitizer on every hole, but...

rjn5656 03-26-2020 07:27 AM

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it is pvc cut and stuck in the hole, protruding out about 4-6 inches

dshoberg 03-26-2020 07:36 AM

We played Volusia yesterday with the pvc inserts and were not held up by the group in front of us once. I think the inserts are great for speeding up play. They also had them on the practice green. Very innovative solution for the issues of today!

swooner 03-26-2020 07:39 AM

A poor excuse for not closing the courses

DonH57 03-26-2020 08:00 AM

At first I would never say this but at this point I believe it's time to close the courses for now. I'm playing tomorrow and it will be it for me for a while. I need to also get stuff around the house done.

anothersteve 03-26-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1733849)
At first I would never say this but at this point I believe it's time to close the courses for now. I'm playing tomorrow and it will be it for me for a while. I need to also get stuff around the house done.

Why put off until tomorrow what you can do today?
Steve

golfing eagles 03-26-2020 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by swooner (Post 1733827)
A poor excuse for not closing the courses

You don't need an excuse for not doing something that is not necessary

DeanFL 03-26-2020 08:15 AM

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...Couple days ago, first time with the 'raised cups', I thought rules were changed and now we must chip 'up & in'. No one told me.

I really messed up the green on Hole #1, but finally scored a 13. Nice leavin' the putter in the bag...

N44125 03-26-2020 08:15 AM

Photo?
 
Anyone got a photo of the new PVC / holes?

cemlopez 03-26-2020 08:20 AM

The intention is god but the execution is terrible, apparently all you have to do is hit the pvc pipe and you have made the put and you don't have to reach inside hole to retrieve the ball (that is not golf that is target shutting).
All they have to do was to install the same pipe about 1/2" below the hole surface and you would still have to put the ball at the proper speed for it to go in the hole and still be easily retrieved with out the need to reach all the way to the bottom of the hole.

golfing eagles 03-26-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cemlopez (Post 1733875)
The intention is god but the execution is terrible, apparently all you have to do is hit the pvc pipe and you have made the put and you don't have to reach inside hole to retrieve the ball (that is not golf that is target shutting).
All they have to do was to install the same pipe about 1/2" below the hole surface and you would still have to put the ball at the proper speed for it to go in the hole and still be easily retrieved with out the need to reach all the way to the bottom of the hole.

wholeheartedly agree. It was like playing goofy golf yesterday. Players hit putts that were going to end up 20 feet past the hole, but because it just glanced the pipe on the way by, they were screaming "birdie!"

anothersteve 03-26-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cemlopez (Post 1733875)
The intention is god but the execution is terrible, apparently all you have to do is hit the pvc pipe and you have made the put and you don't have to reach inside hole to retrieve the ball (that is not golf that is target shutting).
All they have to do was to install the same pipe about 1/2" below the hole surface and you would still have to put the ball at the proper speed for it to go in the hole and still be easily retrieved with out the need to reach all the way to the bottom of the hole.

With the PVC in the hole they can still keep the flag in. Some people seem to not understand that. Anyway it's still golf, you still need to get from tee to green in as little strokes as possible. Whatever anyone thinks about this not being golf, think about it as keeping the skills up.
Steve

golfing eagles 03-26-2020 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1733881)
With the PVC in the hole they can still keep the flag in. Some people seem to not understand that. Anyway it's still golf, you still need to get from tee to green in as little strokes as possible. Whatever anyone thinks about this not being golf, think about it as keeping the skills up.
Steve

You can have a normal cup that is only 1 1/2 inches deep. The ball can easily be retrieved without touching the flagstick

justjim 03-26-2020 08:34 AM

Geez, I’m just happy to get out and play given the Coronavirus. I’ve played Tarpon Boil and Gray Fox this week and they had the PVC pipe to prevent the ball going in the hole. It’s a common sense move to help keep us safe. Tomorrow my group plays a Championship Course and we expect to find the same. We are using the two putt rule. Once on the green, you attempt to roll the ball and hit the hole. After that we pick up the ball and move on. Given the “conditions”, we are not posting scores for handicap purposes. Just glad to be playing and having some fun! Fore!

Waltdisney4life 03-26-2020 08:38 AM

I love the PVC just lowered my handicap by five strokes

anothersteve 03-26-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1733884)
You can have a normal cup that is only 1 1/2 inches deep. The ball can easily be retrieved without touching the flagstick

How do you do that when a "normal" cup is 4" deep?
Steve

golfing eagles 03-26-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1733905)
How do you do that when a "normal" cup is 4" deep?
Steve

Really? same type of cup, just not as deep. Still holds the flag. Allow me to substitute the word "similar" for "normal"

tophcfa 03-26-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by swooner (Post 1733827)
A poor excuse for not closing the courses

Or a brilliant idea on a safe way to keep the courses open.

alemorkam 03-26-2020 08:50 AM

What PVC looks like.
 
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What the PVC looks like.

Decadeofdave 03-26-2020 08:51 AM

I always play by the Marquis of Queensbury
Rules as dictated by Sir Loin of Beef!
LOL

Debboguch50 03-26-2020 10:43 AM

The pvc is not part of the regular cup the pvc is cut so you have about a 2 to 3 inch tall insert into the regular cup, we were told if you hit it is considered in the cup. We saw this on both Mira Mesa and Tarpon Boil, I am sure all courses will have it.

Rosebud1949 03-26-2020 11:21 AM

Still playing ????? what is it about stay at home you do not understand.....

golfing eagles 03-26-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud1949 (Post 1734047)
Still playing ????? what is it about stay at home you do not understand.....

What part of 4 separate carts, golfers staying 6 feet apart, no need to touch each other's equipment, a flagstick or a rake don't YOU understand. You are at far greater risk at the grocery store, pharmacy and gas station. There is no mandatory stay at home order, so essentially, MYOB

anothersteve 03-26-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud1949 (Post 1734047)
Still playing ????? what is it about stay at home you do not understand.....

The staying at home part.
Steve

retiredguy123 03-26-2020 02:01 PM

If I hadn't already given up golf, this raised cup thing would make me do it. I think it is the looniest idea since Looney Tunes.


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