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miharris 03-30-2020 07:47 AM

UF health announced that evidence shows no significant community spreading
 
Front page of today's Sun, referring to the Villages community

alemorkam 03-30-2020 07:50 AM

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champion6 03-30-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by miharris (Post 1736609)
UF health announced that evidence shows no significant community spreading
Front page of today's Sun, referring to the Villages community

Don't ignore the sub-title of the article: Even with low number of cases, health officials say residents must follow social distancing rules to keep community safe.

graciegirl 03-30-2020 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1736644)
Don't ignore the sub-title of the article: Even with low number of cases, health officials say residents must follow social distancing rules to keep community safe.

Well said. And the damned virus says...……...Hold my beer.

golfing eagles 03-30-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1736644)
Don't ignore the sub-title of the article: Even with low number of cases, health officials say residents must follow social distancing rules to keep community safe.

Perhaps our community spread is low BECAUSE most people are following social distancing guidelines (except when hoarding TP)

Decadeofdave 03-30-2020 08:43 AM

Cautiously optimistic

Altavia 03-30-2020 08:44 AM

Also says two positives were found in the research testing, both from New York.

Social distanceing only slows it down. Self isolating can reduce fatalities.

collie1228 03-30-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by miharris (Post 1736609)
Front page of today's Sun, referring to the Villages community

Well, according to the latest news this morning, 38 Villagers now have tested positive for the virus. The growth of the number of infections is just beginning to experience its usual high growth rate, despite the effects of social distancing. The rate would be a lot higher without the social interventions.

TexaninVA 03-30-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by miharris (Post 1736609)
Front page of today's Sun, referring to the Villages community

Good news for a change. I'll take it. :coolsmiley:

kansasr 03-30-2020 09:04 AM

Hmmmm
 
Given that only 18 of the current Sumter positive cases are because of travel and that none of the new cases since 3/25 are travel related, I would say the Daily Sun is overly optimistic.

Madelaine Amee 03-30-2020 09:08 AM

No real information until we are able to test everybody.

New Englander 03-30-2020 09:14 AM

How many people don't know they have the virus incubating in them?

golfing eagles 03-30-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 1736684)
Given that only 18 of the current Sumter positive cases are because of travel and that none of the new cases since 3/25 are travel related, I would say the Daily Sun is overly optimistic.

The statement was made by UF Health, NOT the Daily Sun, who merely reported it. Nice try.

gatorbill1 03-30-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1736688)
No real information until we are able to test everybody.

Definitely need more testing with quicker results

kansasr 03-30-2020 10:41 AM

That was not a direct quote in the Sun, so I assume it comes from the writer of the article.

bob47 03-30-2020 10:44 AM

According to the latest data, there are 45 cases in Sumter county, 22 in Marion county, and 44 in Lake county.

Per capita, there are 2 to 3 times as many cases in Sumter compared to the other 2 counties.

golfing eagles 03-30-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 1736767)
That was not a direct quote in the Sun, so I assume it comes from the writer of the article.

From page 1, today's DS:

"The results of 2,280 people tested for COVID-19 at a drive-thru site in The Villages last week show no evidence of significant community spread, UF Health announced today"

and you "assume" THAT comes from the author of the article?????:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Number 10 GI 03-30-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1736784)
From page 1, today's DS:

"The results of 2,280 people tested for COVID-19 at a drive-thru site in The Villages last week show no evidence of significant community spread, UF Health announced today"

and you "assume" THAT comes from the author of the article?????:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Ever get the feeling that you are just talking to a rock.

kansasr 03-30-2020 11:37 AM

There are no quotes in the article on that sentence.....only following is a DIRECT quote.

golfing eagles 03-30-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1736804)
Ever get the feeling that you are just talking to a rock.

yes, frequently

Aloha1 03-31-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by collie1228 (Post 1736664)
Well, according to the latest news this morning, 38 Villagers now have tested positive for the virus. The growth of the number of infections is just beginning to experience its usual high growth rate, despite the effects of social distancing. The rate would be a lot higher without the social interventions.

Source please?

DianeM 03-31-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1736688)
No real information until we are able to test everybody.

In all sincerity, what will testing everybody prove? You may test negative on Monday but you may test positive on Thursday and asked to remain at home which we should be doing anyway. Will we ask those who may have a mild infection to wear a “C” on their shirts until they’re negative? Sounds like something tried before. You are not shoving a stick up my nose for no good reason.

JoMar 03-31-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1737425)
Source please?

The modeling comes from Harvard and Columbia University for a couple, the success has been documented in cases in Washington State and the Bay Area and they are two areas that were very high in cases and they locked down far harder than in Florida and even New York and New Jersey. The data is out there.

Topspinmo 03-31-2020 10:27 PM

You mean all the golfer’s pickleball players, and walker’s don’t have it? YET? :ho: After all they are the scapegoats.

GoPacers 04-01-2020 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1737433)
In all sincerity, what will testing everybody prove? You may test negative on Monday but you may test positive on Thursday and asked to remain at home which we should be doing anyway. Will we ask those who may have a mild infection to wear a “C” on their shirts until they’re negative? Sounds like something tried before. You are not shoving a stick up my nose for no good reason.

I've yet to hear from anyone who understands what is really happening in the US and globally suggest that we don't need more widespread testing. While you may not want a "stick up your nose" it is not for "no good reason." This isn't going away until we have a vaccine or until enough people contract the virus and develop antibodies and are not able to continue to spread the virus (R naught is < 1). Many (most?) epidemiologists believe this is probable but we don't know enough to say for certain. We don't know how quickly the virus mutates and more importantly, if the antibodies are effective against the mutations. This is why the serological test that Dr. Birx is talking about is so important and then they'll stick a needle in your arm to draw blood.

That "stick up your nose" may save a stick in the ground for someone else, possibly even a friend or loved one. While I don't want to contract the virus myself, I'm more worried about being asymptomatic and infecting other people - particularly my friends and family.

xNYer 04-01-2020 06:34 AM

Testng
 
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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1737433)
In all sincerity, what will testing everybody prove? You may test negative on Monday but you may test positive on Thursday and asked to remain at home which we should be doing anyway. Will we ask those who may have a mild infection to wear a “C” on their shirts until they’re negative? Sounds like something tried before. You are not shoving a stick up my nose for no good reason.

I believe one of their goals is to find out about asymptomatic spread.

stan the man 04-01-2020 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1736650)
Well said. And the damned virus says...……...Hold my beer.

Great post Gracie..missed you

gatorbill1 04-01-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by miharris (Post 1736609)
Front page of today's Sun, referring to the Villages community

This is old news - The Villages is more inclined to be a hot bed of flu cases in future. Will start will golfers, pickle ball players and their friends who think they know who they have been around. Who is safe????? I hope I am wrong, but personally I am staying inside as much as possible. And I love golf, but not now.

Altavia 04-01-2020 09:26 AM

Dashboard for Sumter as of today.

Experience

jdsl1998 04-01-2020 09:43 AM

Can you be nice?

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-01-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jdsl1998 (Post 1737914)
Can you be nice?

Who are you asking? There are 29 other posts on this thread before yours.

Back on topic and in response to DianeM who asks:
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In all sincerity, what will testing everybody prove? You may test negative on Monday but you may test positive on Thursday and asked to remain at home which we should be doing anyway. Will we ask those who may have a mild infection to wear a “C” on their shirts until they’re negative? Sounds like something tried before. You are not shoving a stick up my nose for no good reason.
At some point, anyone who tests *positive* might be ordered into isolation or given a stay-at-home *order* rather than request with tons of exceptions. That would be to restrict spreading to the general populace.

They can't do that if you don't get tested at all.

Yes you could test negative today and contract the virus tomorrow.

However if you know you do NOT have the virus, you know you're able to take necessary precautions from catching it - and can breathe a sigh of relief - at least today.

And if you DO have the virus - precautions can be made so YOU don't spread it to anyone else.

You're free to do as you please UNTIL your freedom steps on the freedoms of everyone else.

My freedom - and right - to LIFE - supersedes your freedom and right to congregate in close proximity to me.

DianeM 04-01-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1737686)
I've yet to hear from anyone who understands what is really happening in the US and globally suggest that we don't need more widespread testing. While you may not want a "stick up your nose" it is not for "no good reason." This isn't going away until we have a vaccine or until enough people contract the virus and develop antibodies and are not able to continue to spread the virus (R naught is < 1). Many (most?) epidemiologists believe this is probable but we don't know enough to say for certain. We don't know how quickly the virus mutates and more importantly, if the antibodies are effective against the mutations. This is why the serological test that Dr. Birx is talking about is so important and then they'll stick a needle in your arm to draw blood.

That "stick up your nose" may save a stick in the ground for someone else, possibly even a friend or loved one. While I don't want to contract the virus myself, I'm more worried about being asymptomatic and infecting other people - particularly my friends and family.

So you want to test 330 million? I get testing for those exhibiting symptoms. I will not submit to tests for exploration if I’m not symptomatic. Like I said earlier, you can be negative on Monday and positive on Thursday. And as for drawing blood, can’t do that without my permission either.

DianeM 04-01-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1737922)
Who are you asking? There are 29 other posts on this thread before yours.

Back on topic and in response to DianeM who asks:


At some point, anyone who tests *positive* might be ordered into isolation or given a stay-at-home *order* rather than request with tons of exceptions. That would be to restrict spreading to the general populace.

They can't do that if you don't get tested at all.

Yes you could test negative today and contract the virus tomorrow.

However if you know you do NOT have the virus, you know you're able to take necessary precautions from catching it - and can breathe a sigh of relief - at least today.

And if you DO have the virus - precautions can be made so YOU don't spread it to anyone else.

You're free to do as you please UNTIL your freedom steps on the freedoms of everyone else.

My freedom - and right - to LIFE - supersedes your freedom and right to congregate in close proximity to me.

I did address symptoms requiring testing and being instructed to stay home. I am not foolishly congregating and hanging out but rather I am adhering to stay at home advice and social distancing. I will not get a stick up my nose to assuage someone else’s fear. Not going to happen.

GoPacers 04-01-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1737958)
So you want to test 330 million? I get testing for those exhibiting symptoms. I will not submit to tests for exploration if I’m not symptomatic. Like I said earlier, you can be negative on Monday and positive on Thursday. And as for drawing blood, can’t do that without my permission either.

SMH and :pray:

Marathon Man 04-01-2020 11:50 AM

Some people simply refuse to be part of the solution.

biker1 04-01-2020 12:00 PM

The asymptomatic testing at the Polo Grounds is for a research study. It has nothing to do with fear and everything to do with collecting data to shed additional light on the coronavirus. Do what you want but don't make up nonsense reasons for not helping the researchers.

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1737965)
I did address symptoms requiring testing and being instructed to stay home. I am not foolishly congregating and hanging out but rather I am adhering to stay at home advice and social distancing. I will not get a stick up my nose to assuage someone else’s fear. Not going to happen.


GoPacers 04-01-2020 12:16 PM

I know I'm wasting my time trying to educate some folks as to why testing matters but here goes...

"In the US, an estimated 25% of coronavirus carriers have no symptoms," said the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

There is similar data from all over the world if you don't believe the CDC.

DianeM 04-01-2020 12:41 PM

You can say what you wish. We cannot test 330 million citizens. And even if we could, Monday you’re negative and Thursday you’re positive. You would need to test daily to remain sure you are negative. It is way more important to be able to test someone exhibiting possible signs to get them some help than it is to waste the tests and lab time on someone without symptoms who has practiced suggested distancing.

Aloha1 04-01-2020 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1737533)
The modeling comes from Harvard and Columbia University for a couple, the success has been documented in cases in Washington State and the Bay Area and they are two areas that were very high in cases and they locked down far harder than in Florida and even New York and New Jersey. The data is out there.

Not my question. I asked where the source was that 38 cases were Villagers.


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