Coronavirus Advice
 

I am changing direction and taking advice from the medical community. Am I messing up since the medical advice I am hearing the loudest is coming from the media outlets and it is different from the federal leadership. Who’s right! Please don’t think I am being political. I want the best advice for me and my family.:pray:

The best advice?
 

The best advice from the federal level seems to be coming at the briefings from Drs. Fauci and Birx. Much of the media still seems to interject political opinions into a medical issue, so I have chosen not to put much faith in them. It is, after all, a medical issue. Get your advice from those in the medical profession. If you want to learn more about what we are up against, search "Ninja Nerd Medicine" on YouTube. They have two videos that cover what is know about the virus in detail. You may not understand the medical and scientific terminology, but if you pay close attention, you will also hear it in a way a layman can understand. The man is an excellent presenter.

Wow, changing this late in the game.

Well I guess, better late than never.......not much better, but some.


There are plenty of online interview by Fauci & Brix.

Your 100% correct, I was hearing what I wanted to hear from the top, but when FOX started sounding alarmed, I had to start listening to the media take on seriousness of this virus. :shocked:

We are all blessed to have Drs. Fauci and Birx. Please listen to them—not to the arrogant self-appointed experts on this board.

I use the media as a source for videos and live reports from the actual people who know what they're talking about. I ignore the commentary. I don't care what Judge Janine thinks about COVID-19, and I don't care if Jim Acosta thinks trump is a blithering idiot. What I care about is that the actual medical doctors and scientists who do the actual medicine and science regarding the COVID-19 having something to say about it.

So when the media presents a live announcement by these people who actually know what they're talking about, I listen/watch. And then I change the channel back to American Picker reruns once the people who know what they're talking about, are done talking about it.

The most practical advice I've seen remains consistent ..

1. wash your hands frequently

2. do NOT touch your face

If you do those two things, that will go a long way in keeping you safe.

And stay home as much as possible.
Assume everything that comes to your home has the virus on it and treat/sanitize accordingly.

I knew this had political overtone.

Should we be listening to the science on a few more issues?

After my best attempt at research, it appears to me, that for accurate information I should stay clear of media outlets like MSNBC, FOX NEWS, Etc.. Best options available for honest, non biased reporting are the Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal. Stay safe everyone.

I watch all three cable networks (FOX, MSNBC, CNN) and the medical advice I get from them agrees with the federal leadership, in my opinion.

With their advice and our own common sense, we think we know exactly what to do to avoid getting the virus.

And stay at least six feet away from anyone who does not live in your house.

How This Virus Kills
 

For a thorough and layman term explanation of how this virus kills, you should watch this YouTube presentation. It's about 34 minutes long, but being homebound with not a lot to do, it's 34 minutes that could be the difference between life and death. This is the link: HOW COVID-19 KILLS--I'm a Surgeon--And Why We Can't Save You - YouTube The presenter is Duc Vuong, MD.

You would be crazy to listen to anyone in the news. Follow advice from federal and state leaders

If you weren't listening to the medical community before, who were you listening to??
Dr Fauci, the CDC, the WHO, the NIH are all reliable sources. I have been following them daily.

Tucker Carlson of FOX News was talking about the coronavirus on FNC starting on February 3 - while the rest of the media were talking about impeachment.

Carlson:

FNC employees have largely been working from home since the weekend of March 14-15. I'm not clear on this "when FOX started sounding alarmed" comment, unless you've been in a bubble.

Fox News To Implement Telecommuting, Other Measures For Employees – Deadline

Totally agree with this response to the OP...it totally blows my mind why people use this board to inquire about things that are critical enough that they should be directed to a subject matter expert/professional

Now, that's not to say that there aren't some very thoughtful comments offered by folks on this board, or that this board should be shut down

it serves a purpose, just don't use it as a crutch

You and many others should have been doing that a month ago. The federal government knew the science but it was not delivered to the public. Very unfortunate for state.

Perhaps you should have been getting your news from more than 1 source. There are many other media outlets than FOX News.

Changed tune
 

A good reason to never watch Fox - it has been proven to be more inaccurate than the other cable news networks,

Are u saying that because Fox news is getting serious, you finally believe the facts?

I also think we should get dressed, the stores are now insisting on clothing. I originally thought it was just wash ur hands and face.
P.S. anyone know what time u should change from daytime pj’s to nighttime pj’s.

C-19 Advise
 

Hold the Line.
‘This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices’ Jonathan Smith
As an infectious disease epidemiologist (albeit a junior one), I feel morally obligated to provide information on what we are seeing from a transmission dynamic perspective and how it applies to the social distancing measures. Like any good scientist, I have noticed two things that are either not well articulated or not present in the “literature” of online media. I have also relied on other infectious disease epidemiologists for peer review of this piece.
Specifically, I want to make two aspects of these distancing measures very clear and unambiguous.
First, we are in the very infancy of this epidemic’s trajectory. That means that even with these measures in place, we will see cases and deaths continue to rise globally, nationally, and in our own communities. This may lead some to think that the social distancing measures are not working. They are. They may feel futile. They aren’t. You will feel discouraged. You should. This is normal in chaos. This is the normal epidemic trajectory. Stay calm.
The enemy we are facing is very good at what it does; we are not failing. We need everyone to hold the line as the epidemic inevitably gets worse. This is not an opinion. This is the unforgiving math of epidemics for which I and my colleagues have dedicated our lives to understanding with great nuance, and this disease is no exception. Stay strong and in solidarity knowing that what you are doing is saving lives, even as people continue getting sick and dying. You may feel like giving in. Don’t.

You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit: if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk.

Second, although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. households) in transmission dynamics. While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases contact within a group (i.e. family). This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics. The basic mechanics of this mathematical principle dictate that even if there is only a little bit of additional connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates, unnecessary trips to the store, etc.), the epidemic likely won’t be much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit.
You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit: If one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.
In contrast to hand-washing and other personal measures, social distancing measures are not about individuals, they are about societies working in unison. These measures also require sustained action before results are evident. It is hard (even for me) to conceptualize how on a population level ‘one quick little get together’ can undermine the entire framework of a public health intervention, but it can. I promise you it can. I promise. I promise. I promise. You can’t cheat it. People are already itching to cheat on the social distancing precautions just a “little”- a short playdate, a quick haircut, or picking up a needless item from the store. From a transmission dynamics standpoint, this very quickly recreates a highly connected social network that undermines much of the good work our communities have done thus far.
This outbreak will not be overcome in one grand, sweeping gesture, but rather by the collection of individual choices we make in the coming months. This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices. As this epidemic continues, it will be easy to be drawn to the idea that what we are doing isn’t working and we may feel compelled to “cheat” with unnecessary breaches of social distancing measures. By knowing what to expect, and knowing the critical importance of maintaining these measures, my hope is to encourage continued community spirit and strategizing to persevere in this time of uncertainty.

Also, listen to and follow your counties advisory. Here is Sumter’s: https://www.**************.com/wp-co...-Extension.pdf

Info on the virus here in Florida: Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak

And the **************.com has good info specific to TV.

Looks like talkofthevillages does not like the villages news site for some reason. You can google it though if you don’t already know about it.

It is probably not a bad idea to rotate through other cable news so you can get a more balanced update. When the WH was calling it a hoax, certain cable news echoed that. Finally, everyone is taking this seriously, but look at how much time has been lost.

Pro tip regarding #2.
You can't touch your face if you're holding your preferred beverage in each hand. :)

Watch the briefings to get info straight from scientists.

I listened and planned my companies close down based on the experiences of my clients in China and South Korea and what was happending there from January and February.

Once closed down I now take advise from my friends working on the front line in the A&E wards of the local hospitals and from the report by The Imperial College London. DON'T underestimate this. It's not only the old that are dying its the young as well. My sister in law had it and recovered without medical treatment. She is fit but said near the end it was the most frightening experience in her life as she struggled to breath, and she genuinely thought she would die... but 2 days later she recovered. The big problem with the pandemic is that most people will be OK, and many will question wheter we overkilled the responses killing economies in the process... The reason as the US medical advisor stated DO NOTHING = over 2 million deaths in the USA. Self quarantine then hopefully the number will be under 200,000. Why the discrepancy? Partly more infected people but also because there simply aren't enough beds and ventialators and people that could survive will not have the chance as Doctors are forced to decide who lives and who dies, who gets a ventilator and who doesn't..........Forget politicians and think about that last statement. Chances are most poeple won't suffer, but for those that do many will recover if the beds are available... Currently there aren't enough beds.....

STAY AT HOME AND SAVE LIFES......

Stay away from everyone. Don’t touch anything outside your home or anything that isn’t yours.
If you must wear gloves or put on some protective covering then discard of that covering as safely as you can.
When you bring anything new inside your home, disinfect it.

Wash your hands immediately after you touch something outside of your home and avoid touching your face if you have to touch things that you aren’t 100% sure they have been disinfected by the virus

There are people roaming around the villages who have the virus and they don’t know it. You don’t know who they are and they don’t know it either.

MIT latest says it is 27 feet
 

This came out yesterday late, Tuesday, and should quickly help you decide how often you want to be grocery shopping. MIT scientists just validated, in case of a sneeze, the virus can travel 27 feet because of the body’s propulsion. Please remember some of the droplets can be airborne for up to 3 hours that has been published by Princeton a week ago. So if you walk in the radius of that 27 foot spread even if you don’t see a sneezing person you can become infected. Regardless of how you clean your hands.

Also additional symptom out, surprisingly different for only 3% with Covid19. Pink eye. No fever no respiratory issues just painful pink eye.

Please be smart and careful

It's the Flu folks! Granted if you get it, it could be worse but in the big picture... no, not really. Car wrecks and bee/wasp stings are still a far greater killer. Well it was before everyone ran inside scared to death by the media and government.
It's not a disease that hunts you down like some being in a hollywood movie. It's a virus that's spread mostly by being too close to another human. Go into a store if you need to (or if you can find one open lol)
Go for your walks, your bike rides, your cart rides. Find a quiet spot to watch the sunrise or sunset. Bring some food for the wildlife. See someone? Wave and say hi keeping a safe distance.
I've never been afraid of dying, but I get horrified by the thought of not living.

How about people that live in your house and are out in public most of the day?

I do not want to make this into a political battle, but to me, it's encouraging (as well as important) that people sample the news from various outlets and persuasions. It allows you to be exposed to many differing opinions, and permits you to make more informed judgements, no matter what the topic.

Trust the doctors and scientists. This is NOT the flu. Dr. Fauci says so himself. Just go to YouTube and type in the search field: "Fauci this is not the flu". You can see him make it crystal clear. COVID-19 is 10x more lethal. Please do not be casual about this. Have your essentials at home. Wash hands and disinfect frequently touched surfaces. Practice social distancing. It's a short term inconvenience compared to the alternative. Be safe everyone.

Jury is still out on that one as it's impossible to tell how many have had it and gotten over it.
No one yet has the correct data to figure this out yet.
At current numbers, 10x more lethal is still below 1%.

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Proven by whom.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/
 

the CDC is your best source:
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) | CDC