Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective therapy' by doctors for coronavirus: Global
 

Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective therapy' by doctors for coronavirus: Global survey

An international poll of more than 6,000 doctors released Thursday found that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine was the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus.
The survey conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, of 6,227 physicians in 30 countries found that 37% of those treating COVID-19 patients rated hydroxychloroquine as the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.

Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective therapy' by doctors for coronavirus: Global survey - Washington Times

This is not a clinical trial, just a poll of real world Doctors who are treating coronavirus patients.

Based on what I'm reading, these drugs work best when used early.

We all hope it will be effective. I looked this up and it came from Sermo which is a doctor's blog where doctors supposedly discuss things on an online "forum". Worldone.inc. bought it some time ago. I would still call this anecdotal information. I have to wonder how the "doctors" credentials are verified. It says it is "the most effective therapy" according to what you tell us, but I haven't really heard of any other "therapies" being used. There are no anti-virals for it and no vaccine to prevent it and antibiotics are used to prevent secondary infections. I want to believe this good news, I do. But it could be just a bunch of yahoos like me giving their opinion. Anyone can pretend to be anyone on the internet. I know you want to be encouraging, but we just can't be hootin' and hollerin'. Too much of that goin' on by others meaning to be encouraging...…………….

Wave I of Sermo’s COVID-19 Barometer Survey was launched on March 25 and fielded over three days. Physicians were not incentivized to participate in the study. The sample represents physicians registered with Sermo, a secure digital (online) platform designed for physician networking and anonymous survey research. The platform is exclusive to verified and licensed physicians.

https://public-cdn.sermo.com/covid19...ysis-final.pdf

Some new info

Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.

"Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution." He said he has found it only works if combined with zinc. The drug, he said, opens a channel for the zinc to enter the cell and block virus replication.

LA doctor seeing success with hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 - ABC7 Los Angeles

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread | Virology Journal | Full Text

I truly hope this is the resolution we’ve been hoping for. Time tested product already long in production would be a fantastic tool.

"What Do You Have To Lose?" !!! nails it for me.

Per the information - perfect or not - if I or a family member/friend contracted Covid, I would STRONGLY instruct my medical professional to administer it. period.

"Hydroxychloroquine"
What-do-you-have-to-lose!
Strong logical words that some do not like to hear including certain media outlets.....

I’m with you 100%.

Your life, if not careful. Contact your doctor before doing anything.

No kidding. You cannot just buy the pills on your own. Requires a doctor script or administered in hospital.

These are prescription medicines, you can't get them unless your doctor prescribes them.

Not sure why some promote the idea they are dangerous. There are some complications with arrhythmia with hydroxychloroquine, but from studies I read, that was mostly with prolonged use. Current protocol for these drugs to treat coronavirus only uses them for 7-10 days. About a gazillion people have taken this drug, including your grandpa and dad in WW 1 and 2.

I'm all in for it, "What do you have to lose"..
I was just making a comment that others will not like the positive view of this drug because someone higher up in our chain of command promoted "Hydroxychloroquine" from the beginning....

[QUOTE=Marvic 1;1741498]I'm all in for it, "What do you have to lose"..
I was just making a comment that others will not like the positive view of this drug because someone higher up in our chain of command promoted "Hydroxychloroquine" from the beginning....[/

Their loss

haha. Brilliant.

As with most things, there are unintended consequences. I recently read where many pharmacies are having trouble getting ample supplies of hydroxychloroquine, because so many doctors are prescribing it. The problem is that some people, like my wife, take and have taken it for years because of lung related autoimmune disease. Now many of them are unable to get their prescriptions filled. Fortunately, we got my wife’s script filled for ninety days right before the run on it.

I am reminded of the panel of physicians who recommended cessation of PSA testing as an early warning for prostate cancer. The panel consisted of not a single oncologist, not a single urologist, and was chaired by a female pediatrician. Do we know if all the respondents of this survey have actually treated COVID-19 patients? Additionally, since it was a multiple-choice poll, it could have been biased toward a desired conclusion. How do we know that jelly beans weren't a choice? To summarize...I reject this news and favor scientific protocols.

Ridiculous
 

Everyone he has given it to has been symptom free within 8 to 12 hours?
Yet, the original posting says it’s the most used drug. Most used drug, but there have been thousands of deaths by those prescribing the drug?

Read the survey at link, they had a choice of 15 treatments to choose from, all were treating Covid 19 patients.

Hydroxychloroquine usage amongst COVID-19 treaters is 72% in Spain, 49% in Italy, 41% in Brazil, 39% in Mexico, 28% in France, 23% in US, 17% in Germany, 16% in Canada, 13% in UK and 7% in Japan.
• Hydroxychloroquine was overall chosen as the most effective therapy from a list of 15 options (37% of COVID-19 treaters). • 75% in Spain, 53% Italy, 44% in China, 43% in Brazil, 29% in France, 23% in US and 13% in UK.

https://public-cdn.sermo.com/covid19...ysis-final.pdf

Here's a live Doctor in LA, saying it's working for him, must be a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc

LA doctor seeing success with hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 - ABC7 Los Angeles

The Doctor in LA is using a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc sulfate which is what's working for him. Not sure if all the Doctors in survey use same cocktail, just that many of them use hydroxychloroquine.

I did read the survey. Only 35% of the 6227 physicians had "been involved in the treatment" of a patient who had tested positive and of those doctors, 37% chose hydroxychloroquine as the most effective. That equates to about 13% of the doctors surveyed choosing hydroxychloroquine as the most effective treatment option. What this survey proves is that numbers can be tweaked, spun, and presented in a way that leads to misinterpretation.

I am not medically trained. Are you medically trained?

I hope and pray that Chloroquine with the Z-pac works and I hope and pray that the vaccine they began testing today works too. I read somewhere a couple of weeks ago that someone was testing a vaccine in the State of Washington. I really like being assured that the good news is coming from a valid source. But I am very, very, skeptical. I had really good science teachers. And a damn good English teacher too who was Hell on proper sourcing. That was a long time ago, but I still can say my linking verbs...…….

No, it means 37% of surveyed Doctors treating covid 19 patients are using the drug. I don't care what the other ones think because they aren't treating covid 19 patients. Nobody is trying to spin or tweak the numbers, survey is easy to read and understand. You understand that there is no patent on hydroxychloroquine, its cheap and made by several countries all over the world. Nobody has a vested interest in promoting the drug.

I understand you would rather wait for full clinical trials, but death rate may peak in a few weeks so those may be too late to save some people.

I noticed you have commented on the Doctor in LA, he's treating very serious coronavirus patients with his tri drug cocktail and seeing great results.

Well ... given the alternatives (of which there are none), if I were suffering from the virus and truly that sick, if I were offered this medication, I’d scarf it down in a heartbeat. Something beats nothing every day.

A few more reports about actual Doctors treating the actual coronavirus patients.

Long Island doctor tries new hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 patients

Dr. Stephen Smith on effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine: '''I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic''' | Fox News

You ask a lot of questions but don't seem to read the answers. Earlier in this thread you had doubts that the survey was of actual Doctors. I answered that question by posting from the survey which stated that they are all certified and verified Doctors.

I have now posted 3 more links with reports about actual Doctors treating actual coronavirus patients with the results they are getting. Read them.

OK I read the report. 47 patients and 2 died and somehow the conclusion is that hydroxychloroquine and doxycycline is an effective treatment. That's a 4.2% death rate, higher than the current death rate in the U.S. of about 2.8%. That is the problem with accepting these preliminary studies without long term controlled groups. Basically the only conclusion one can reach just at looking at that study is that the drug combination is not effective but the drug combination is killing people at a higher rate. Bottom line is everyone hopes that very soon we have an effective drug that can cure COVID-19. I sure do.

I think you have noticed something that does not exist. I do not recall commenting on that subject. However, regarding those anecdotal reports, when two events occurring together are assumed to be cause and effect, that is often a correlation fallacy.

That report, from New York I think, was from a Doctor treating patients from 3 nursing homes, most likely in their 80s or 90s.

His patients were under long-term acute care and had comorbidities such as hypertension, coronary artery disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or congestive heart failure.

I'd say saving all but 2 is pretty darn good with those patients.

The other reports

DR Smith : Smith, who is treating 72 COVID-19 patients, said that he has been treating "everybody with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin [an antibiotic]. We’ve been doing so for a while.”

He pointed out that not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated.

“The chance of that occurring by chance, according to my sons Leon and Hunter who did some stats for me, are .000-something,” he said, adding that “it’s ridiculously low"

Dr Cardillo in LA

Dr Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients

"Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution"

So you might need to recalculate that death rate.

I don't think the things you want me to read are helpful and one Doctor's results is not impressive. He doesn't say how many patients he is seeing. It appears his usual job is treating sexually transmitted diseases in the inner city. I think a pulmonologist would be really helpful to hear from...BUT....Like Diane M, I would try anything but so far I don't read any conclusive evidence from you or the POTUS that this is working. I remember a couple of days ago you were debating the "real" M.D.s who live here and post on here.

Then don't read them. The "real" MDs who live and post here are probably retired and not treating coronavirus. The "real" Doctors I am quoting are on the front lines, "really" treating this disease. They are the ones giving their results, not me or Trump.

If it were true then why are so many dying

Not all patients are being treated with these drugs. Doctors are still learning what combination to use and when. I am just reporting what I can on the subject and hoping for the best. A vaccine that works is the only true solution, but that's going to take a while.

Careful Tal,,,,,,,,

Let's see so if they said Thalidomide seemed to be working you would take that also? It did a lot of damage to young children being born in the 1950's due to a lack of thorough testing. I believe that there are studies now that are showing Lasik eye surgery is beginning to show long term ill effects. Putting leeches on people was used for a remedy for just about every disease at one time and many people survived illnesses with leech treatment. Not sure that is a good testing and trial procedure that shows it worked .

I believe that what the president meant to say is if you are on the verge of death he does not see a reason not to ask for the drugs. To me it is no different than getting pancreatic cancer, a death sentence, a majority of the time. If you told me there was a drug that might be helpful in a cure but there could be unknown side effects, I am sure I would not think twice. We do not know if this really works or whether the people getting better while taking it could have eaten strawberries and gotten well. If you are willing to sign a release that you hold no one responsible for any future issues of any kind, you should be allowed to take it.

Apples and oranges. This drug has been around for 75 years. It treats malaria and lupus and arthritis on a regular basis. It is being tried as part of a medical cocktail to help people with the virus in their quest to survive. It is VERY different than a cancer diagnosis. I would take it in a heartbeat.

And if you have a liver disorder and take it, you will probably die.

There are reasons this drug is not over the counter.

Respect science.

And if you’re diagnosed with a near fatal dose of COVID, protecting your liver is pointless.

If it were true then why are so many dying

See above.