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Imagine701 04-08-2020 07:25 PM

Golf Rates go up again!!!!!!
 
When will it stop? Do we just keep saying oh well?

https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/May_Dec_2020.pdf

eyc234 04-08-2020 08:55 PM

So when are you moving somewhere else with all the amenities you have here? Need to know so I can take your tee times!!!:a040::a040::a040:

John_W 04-08-2020 09:19 PM

These are the courses I mainly play since they are all within a 20 minute cart ride. I always play the evening wave, somewhere in the 11:56 to 1:30 range. Last summer they were $34. This year it looks like they'll be $36 and Glen View stays at $34. I think I can live with that for now.

Palmer Legends | Cane Garden | Mallory Hill | Havana | Bonifay | Evans Prairie | Belle Glade | Glen View

DianeM 04-08-2020 09:20 PM

Why is it that whenever someone is unhappy with something the inevitable “when are you moving” comes out? It’s okay to be ticked over things. The Bubble is fine but at the end of the day it’s just a bunch of houses with Rec centers and golf courses. Did no one ever get annoyed with things where you came from?

lake5798 04-08-2020 09:49 PM

aye yi yi !

DianeM 04-08-2020 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lake5798 (Post 1743025)
The only way these increases will ever end is if Majority of golfers take a stand and boycott golf ,probably won’t happen, I play outside 2-3 days a week, not so much Because of price, it is the conditions of TV courses in relationship to price. Whenever I am asked by people I golf with outside the Villages about “ what the courses are like in TV “ my reply is always the same. I tell them it is more about quantity than Quality in TV. I have always believed bigger is not always better, and my beliefs have been borne out since I moved into TV 10 years ago.I truly enjoy all the friends I have made, but the quality of TV lifestyle has been degrading for a few years now.Starting with their Single source health care system, to the over populated squares and less than mediocre eating establishments, not to mention the 25% SumterCounty tax increase. Rather than moan and groan about all these deficiencies, I believe that it is now time to look at moving on! Sad that such a great concept is being ruined by the pursuit of more $$$ instead of maintaining the quality product that this place was originally founded on! Well I will get off my soap box now. I wish everyone the best with whatever path you shall travel.

I understand completely and agree.

JoMar 04-08-2020 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lake5798 (Post 1743025)
The only way these increases will ever end is if Majority of golfers take a stand and boycott golf ,probably won’t happen, I play outside 2-3 days a week, not so much Because of price, it is the conditions of TV courses in relationship to price. Whenever I am asked by people I golf with outside the Villages about “ what the courses are like in TV “ my reply is always the same. I tell them it is more about quantity than Quality in TV. I have always believed bigger is not always better, and my beliefs have been borne out since I moved into TV 10 years ago.I truly enjoy all the friends I have made, but the quality of TV lifestyle has been degrading for a few years now.Starting with their Single source health care system, to the over populated squares and less than mediocre eating establishments, not to mention the 25% SumterCounty tax increase. Rather than moan and groan about all these deficiencies, I believe that it is now time to look at moving on! Sad that such a great concept is being ruined by the pursuit of more $$$ instead of maintaining the quality product that this place was originally founded on! Well I will get off my soap box now. I wish everyone the best with whatever path you shall travel.

I agree, TV has never been for everybody. What I find interesting is that so few people do leave, they talk about it but the population keeps growing. There seem to be others ready to come here. I have one friend tht did leave, found nice quiet community, nice golf course, nice recreation center, $250.00 HOA fee. First year, happy, now not so much. Novelty gone and bored. He didn't think this place was for him until he was gone. I too wish everyone the best wherever they travel or whatever path they take. I suspect there will continue to be more incoming than outgoing and this place will continue to grow. As for my friend, they are moving back.

woderfulwendy1 04-09-2020 05:32 AM

"and when are you moving"

bowlingal 04-09-2020 05:38 AM

At least you still have your activity that you love so much. Most of us do not have our activities to do anymore. Quit your bitchin and be thankful

davem4616 04-09-2020 06:07 AM

prices go up because the cost of maintaining the courses and everything else involved goes up

we should be happy that they don't go up and down like the price of gasoline does....which is an absolute joke

DecaturFargo 04-09-2020 06:45 AM

Yes, but where I came from, we had a Board with community people in the neighborhood who devised budgets and theyvwere presented, argued and passed or not by a majority. We had no one ruling the kingdom, as you do here.

ficoguy 04-09-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Imagine701 (Post 1742983)
When will it stop? Do we just keep saying oh well?

https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/May_Dec_2020.pdf

It will never stop. Supply and demand. I am going just a few mikes off property and get to play better courses at lower rates. These courses in TV have no fairway turf to hit an iron or a nice fairway wood. It’s not grass. Looks like chickweed

kgovier5 04-09-2020 06:53 AM

I do not mind if the rates go up on the course if the conditions of the course are kept up; which they are not. Continually raising the rates on the course and not putting any money (water) back into the course is a big issue. I play twice a week outside TV with about 25 residents, and every course we play within 45 minutes is normally less expensive and in very good to excellent shape. TV might want to reach out to some courses and see how it's done....

justjim 04-09-2020 07:02 AM

Lake5798 poster, I thought your post was genuine and heart felt. I don’t know you personally but perhaps the increase golf rates and the Coronavirus is enough to send you “over the top”. Many of us are unconsciously depressed by constant change and the feeling of being held “prisoner” by what is happening in our world today. You might want to revisit your thoughts and plans after things settle down with this pandemic we are going through. We are blessed if we haven’t caught the virus and this will pass in time. Social media has a way of beating us up if we read and attempt to digest all the nonsense that is posted. On the other hand, thank God we have the first Amendment and the rights to a free press in this country. It is my personal opinion that it’s the “social media” that gets it wrong most of the time. The so called internet has few boundaries. Finally, I have observed that there has developed a pattern of negative remarks between those that play golf and those that don’t. This is not a good thing IMHO. We all need to be able to express our thoughts and opinions but we don’t need to “carry a chip on our shoulder”and always try to get in the last word. Just saying...

mk1126 04-09-2020 07:02 AM

ANy wonder?
 
To paraphrase an old adage - "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free", and that;s to a "T"!

Bay Kid 04-09-2020 07:11 AM

It cost lots to run and maintain golf courses. Small price to have all these great opportunities to play multiple courses. I am just grateful they are there for us.

drcar 04-09-2020 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DecaturFargo (Post 1743124)
Yes, but where I came from, we had a Board with community people in the neighborhood who devised budgets and theyvwere presented, argued and passed or not by a majority. We had no one ruling the kingdom, as you do here.

Question, where you came from did the board set prices at the restaurants, gas stations, stores, etc. Of course not because they are private businesses. Just like the County Clubs are! The Executive courses are set by the community boards, they are separate!

bumpygreens 04-09-2020 07:17 AM

Please message me when you find a similar community in an area with 0% inflation.

Boilerman 04-09-2020 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Imagine701 (Post 1742983)
When will it stop? Do we just keep saying oh well?

https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/May_Dec_2020.pdf

I’m curious as to why you think that greens fees wouldn’t increase every year. The price of most everything else increases a bit every year, some things more than others. There’s lots of materials and labor required to maintain a golf course so of course the price goes up some every year.

If you feel you get a better deal at courses outside the Villages then go play there. Many are very close and are cheaper.

When will it stop? Probably never as inflation affects almost everything (except televisions and gas).

stan the man 04-09-2020 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1743051)
:ohdear: That's not allowed........ :icon_wink:

maybe you have too many post !!! I think after 2000 post you are only allowed two posts per day

Marathon Man 04-09-2020 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DecaturFargo (Post 1743124)
Yes, but where I came from, we had a Board with community people in the neighborhood who devised budgets and theyvwere presented, argued and passed or not by a majority. We had no one ruling the kingdom, as you do here.

Not sure what you mean by "ruling the kingdom". The championship courses are privately owned and operated. The owner sets prices pretty much like any privately owned golf course does.

soniak4@gmail.com 04-09-2020 08:16 AM

The rates you shared went into effect in December. Typically, winter brings on higher rates. Summer rates go into effect in June. They should be lower, but probably higher than last summer. People have often complained, and complained, and complained that our courses are not in great shape. Well, improvements cost money. Money does not grow on trees, at least, that is what my parents yelled at me all the time. Maintenance costs go up (labor, chemicals, improvements, etc.) and the cost has to be covered somehow. I come from the northern part of the country and thought I had died and gone to heaven when I moved here and saw how cheap it was going to be to support my golf habit. Now, the rates are creeping up but, they are creeping up all across the country. In my mind, we are still getting a good deal by golfing at our courses. So, I will keep golfing here. I will enjoy the company of my golfing buddies. I will enjoy the ease of making a tee time. I will enjoy the really nice people who take take our money in the pro shops (they will open again when this is all over). I will chat pleasantly with the ambassadors and starters. If you think you are not getting your money’s worth, go golf somewhere else as long as you enjoy yourself and spend time in the great outdoors. Have a pleasant day and stay safe.

mtlee024 04-09-2020 08:29 AM

It is what it is, we all have choices.

kendi 04-09-2020 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1743016)
Why is it that whenever someone is unhappy with something the inevitable “when are you moving” comes out? It’s okay to be ticked over things. The Bubble is fine but at the end of the day it’s just a bunch of houses with Rec centers and golf courses. Did no one ever get annoyed with things where you came from?

It’s just another way of saying who cares. complaints don’t need to be spread across social media. People get tired of all the negativity and pettiness. Complaints can stay in a person’s own circle of family and friends

tomhinz 04-09-2020 08:46 AM

AGREED It seems to be all about the money. Maybe because of the GREED, there won't be much money to be had.

bagboy 04-09-2020 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DecaturFargo (Post 1743124)
Yes, but where I came from, we had a Board with community people in the neighborhood who devised budgets and theyvwere presented, argued and passed or not by a majority. We had no one ruling the kingdom, as you do here.

Your board never discussed, argued, and then passed or failed anything with respect to a privately owned entity. Our championship golf courses and country club restaurants are private, for profit businesses.

drcar 04-09-2020 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com (Post 1743218)
The rates you shared went into effect in December. Typically, winter brings on higher rates. Summer rates go into effect in June. They should be lower, but probably higher than last summer. People have often complained, and complained, and complained that our courses are not in great shape. Well, improvements cost money. Money does not grow on trees, at least, that is what my parents yelled at me all the time. Maintenance costs go up (labor, chemicals, improvements, etc.) and the cost has to be covered somehow. I come from the northern part of the country and thought I had died and gone to heaven when I moved here and saw how cheap it was going to be to support my golf habit. Now, the rates are creeping up but, they are creeping up all across the country. In my mind, we are still getting a good deal by golfing at our courses. So, I will keep golfing here. I will enjoy the company of my golfing buddies. I will enjoy the ease of making a tee time. I will enjoy the really nice people who take take our money in the pro shops (they will open again when this is all over). I will chat pleasantly with the ambassadors and starters. If you think you are not getting your money’s worth, go golf somewhere else as long as you enjoy yourself and spend time in the great outdoors. Have a pleasant day and stay safe.

New rates go in affect May 1st

bilcon 04-09-2020 08:57 AM

Just to change the subject, a little joke: The year is 2053 and this is a big day for Jack. Today is the day he opens the last roll of toilet paper that was hoarded by his parents back in 2020.

billlaur 04-09-2020 09:00 AM

rates
 
its only a couple of bucks,skip 1 drink ..:a040::a040:

Decadeofdave 04-09-2020 09:10 AM

This is one of reasons I have stayed on a variable income my whole life.!! (Wink-wink)

tophcfa 04-09-2020 09:28 AM

As an resident that is not priority I am not happy that I am only paying $2 less than a priority guest. That just doesn’t seem right.

Rrgolf 04-09-2020 09:50 AM

Could not have said it better. And I too will be moving on

markfrat 04-09-2020 12:48 PM

John W you are the spitting image of a close High School buddy of mine back in Massachusetts. I can get over the resemblance.
I'll have to look you up when we finally get moved into the Villages. Hopefully within the next 2 months

Bogie Shooter 04-09-2020 12:58 PM

Those winter rates were discussed (?) almost without end......why are they being brought up again?

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ght=golf+rates
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ght=golf+rates
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ght=golf+rates
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ght=golf+rates

John_W 04-09-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by markfrat (Post 1743458)
John W you are the spitting image of a close High School buddy of mine back in Massachusetts. I can get over the resemblance.
I'll have to look you up when we finally get moved into the Villages. Hopefully within the next 2 months

It ain't me, never been north of NYC.

Tom1916 04-09-2020 01:12 PM

Golf
 
By the time the last person in Florida and or the Villages has been infected there may not be anyone left to play golf with.

The Spanish Flu took two years to end, it ended when all people who had it either died or had developed immunity to it.

No vaccine now or then, Antibiotics are not effective per Dr. Fauci.
The Spanish Flu killed well over 50 million people worldwide.
I wonder how many infected in the Villages right now got Infected on the golf course?

golfing eagles 04-09-2020 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1916 (Post 1743477)
By the time the last person in Florida and or the Villages has been infected there may not be anyone left to play golf with.

The Spanish Flu took two years to end, it ended when all people who had it either died or had developed immunity to it.

No vaccine now or then, Antibiotics are not effective per Dr. Fauci.
The Spanish Flu killed well over 50 million people worldwide.
I wonder how many infected in the Villages right now got Infected on the golf course?

Since there are only 54 cases in zip codes 32162 and 32163 combined, my guess would be ZERO

ronda 04-09-2020 06:58 PM

Are you sure about that? There seems to be many knowledgeable people on this thread. You wrote that they are privately "owned", but I find that hard to believe.

Maybe you can help me out here? Who "owns" the Championship golf courses. I'm going to guess is the TV corporation owns the land and can lease it out???? But I don't know. I know there was a "private" company that ran the golf courses and the TV corporation took it back. I'm not sure who sets the rates? I assume its the people who operate the golf courses; but if th TV corp leases them pout, there could be provisions in the contract. I gotta believe there is a single agreement somewhere...not each course is independent.

Any one know?

Tsego58 04-10-2020 05:05 AM

When ask about a board to make a decision about golf rates. I have to laugh. First of all everyone here to include me are opinionated. The difference in the villages are that everyone wants their opinion to be the one that counts. Everyone wants to be in charge with no responsibility. This puts them on their pedestal. Amazing, keep complaining and eventually someone will listen or just ignore you.

davem4616 04-10-2020 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imagine701 (Post 1742983)
When will it stop? Do we just keep saying oh well?

https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/May_Dec_2020.pdf



I predict that as soon as you stop playing golf you'll never pay another increase in green fees


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