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sloanst 04-13-2020 07:57 AM

Can we expect any improvement?
 
I just noticed the off season rates were published with an approximate increase of ~18%. Can we expect an 18% improvement in course conditions this summer? Just wondering. :popcorn:

karostay 04-13-2020 07:59 AM

That's to offset the 36% who stopped playing in the first place

chrisinva 04-13-2020 08:15 AM

when hell freezes over

:1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl: :mademyday:

John_W 04-13-2020 08:44 AM

May 1st to Dec 31st afternoon wave starts at 11:56 and a non-priority resident was $34 and is now $36, that's a 12.2% increase. That's all I'm concerned about.

karostay 04-13-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1745460)
May 1st to Dec 31st afternoon wave starts at 11:56 and a non-priority resident was $34 and is now $36, that's a 12.2% increase. That's all I'm concerned about.

Will no longer be able to afford 2 buck chuck

Rrgolf 04-13-2020 09:59 AM

I wouldn't care what they charge if they put money back into the courses. Conditions are atrocious for what we pay

Rapscallion St Croix 04-13-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sloanst (Post 1745422)
I just noticed the off season rates were published with an approximate increase of ~18%. Can we expect an 18% improvement in course conditions this summer? Just wondering. :popcorn:

When gas prices go up do you get better gas mileage? When the price of stamps increase, do you receive faster mail service?

ficoguy 04-13-2020 10:17 AM

18% increase in greens fees will not result in corresponding improvement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sloanst (Post 1745422)
I just noticed the off season rates were published with an approximate increase of ~18%. Can we expect an 18% improvement in course conditions this summer? Just wondering. :popcorn:

Hahahahahahaha!
Good one!

graciegirl 04-13-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1745524)
When gas prices go up do you get better gas mileage? When the price of stamps increase, do you receive faster mail service?

For some reason I can't say "thanks" on your post. Allow me here to say Thanks.

A fan.

Jayhawk 04-13-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1745460)
May 1st to Dec 31st afternoon wave starts at 11:56 and a non-priority resident was $34 and is now $36, that's a 12.2% increase. That's all I'm concerned about.

Actually it's only a 5.9% difference.

tophcfa 04-13-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1745524)
When gas prices go up do you get better gas mileage? When the price of stamps increase, do you receive faster mail service?

Last time I checked, gas prices have gone way down. I can remember paying $4 for a gallon of gas and now it’s below $2. Can’t say that I have ever seen green fees go down?

kcrazorbackfan 04-13-2020 12:49 PM

Good gawd! Do a bunch of you whiners get together and each one take turns on complaining about something here in The Villages?

If you can’t afford the $2.00, then it’s probably time you quit golf. Do you complain about The Villages when you lose your balls and have to buy more or when your grips wear out and you have to replace them?

Stop the incessant whining and complaining.

Jayhawk 04-13-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1745619)
Good gawd! Do a bunch of you whiners get together and each one take turns on complaining about something here in The Villages?

If you can’t afford the $2.00, then it’s probably time you quit golf. Do you complain about The Villages when you lose your balls and have to buy more or when your grips wear out and you have to replace them?

Stop the incessant whining and complaining.

Man, I am with you 1000%, but good luck with some of the complainers. You can look back and see several of them have hundreds of complaints or blame.

:bigbow:

golfing eagles 04-13-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1745723)
Man, I am with you 1000%, but good luck with some of the complainers. You can look back and see several of them have hundreds of complaints or blame.

:bigbow:

The "developer" should make it rain more:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JSR22 04-13-2020 03:59 PM

Rain
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1745725)
The "developer" should make it rain more:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I am sure they only want it to rain at night! If it rains during the day it will be the Morse's fault!

golfing eagles 04-13-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1745729)
I am sure they only want it to rain at night! If it rains during the day it will be the Morse's fault!

Absolutely!!! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter 04-13-2020 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1745619)
Good gawd! Do a bunch of you whiners get together and each one take turns on complaining about something here in The Villages?

If you can’t afford the $2.00, then it’s probably time you quit golf. Do you complain about The Villages when you lose your balls and have to buy more or when your grips wear out and you have to replace them?

Stop the incessant whining and complaining.

Its the same ones, bring up their same posts 2-3 times per year.

Northwoods 04-13-2020 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1745524)
When gas prices go up do you get better gas mileage? When the price of stamps increase, do you receive faster mail service?

The absolute best response to this topic!!!! :bigbow:

Two Bills 04-14-2020 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1745729)
I am sure they only want it to rain at night! If it rains during the day it will be the Morse's fault!

......or the Morris's :icon_wink:

tsmall22204 04-14-2020 06:27 AM

Well have you considered operational costs have gone up. That's right, salary increases, equipment costs, maintenance costs, and additional expenses?
Did your income go up? Dont you think the folks that provide your golfing experience deserve an increase?

hardwick2112@yahoo.com 04-14-2020 06:36 AM

More for the Morse's. Why should the family suffer during this crisis?

threefootputt 04-14-2020 06:56 AM

It’s a 5.9% increase (36-34/34) over last year’s rate, not the 18% stated by the OP or even the 12.2% suggested in another post.

Singerlady 04-14-2020 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1745601)
Actually it's only a 5.9% difference.

Correct! Wish my pension and SS would go up 5.9%. Ha ha....

davem4616 04-14-2020 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sloanst (Post 1745422)
I just noticed the off season rates were published with an approximate increase of ~18%. Can we expect an 18% improvement in course conditions this summer? Just wondering. :popcorn:



absolutely, I would even encourage you to expect 18% or even 20, 25% improvement (not)

it takes money to run these courses and they're not in horrible condition...you want horrible play some of the municipal courses up north

If you think their prices are too high for you, show them your resolve by only golfing outside of TV

MandoMan 04-14-2020 07:25 AM

I hear they are going to be stocking the ponds with a special kind of alligator that fetches balls from the water and spits them out on the shore. Well worth the extra cost, right?

Chall 04-14-2020 07:33 AM

I paid more in the 90”s for premium daily play courses.

wildjac 04-14-2020 08:53 AM

Don't hold your breath!

cassjax2 04-14-2020 09:16 AM

Stop parking on the grass and use the cart path! Only those with handicapped stickers are allowed to park near the green. We’ve also seen carts being driven across the green - STOP IT!!

calibantwo 04-14-2020 09:17 AM

Course Conditions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sloanst (Post 1745422)
I just noticed the off season rates were published with an approximate increase of ~18%. Can we expect an 18% improvement in course conditions this summer? Just wondering. :popcorn:

Why are they cutting the fairways so short again this year? It looks like they are using the same cutters as the greens. No way to get a decent lie, especially for a wedge. The grass is so short it will burn out quickly.

Dilligas 04-14-2020 09:51 AM

You are looking at this all wrong.....you currently pay $47 or $64 (priority or non priority for most courses) and on May 1 will pay $36 or $45 (-23% or -30%) and if you wait until after Noon $29 or $36 (-38% or -44%). Now don't you feel better?

72lions 04-14-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hardwick2112@yahoo.com (Post 1745883)
More for the Morse's. Why should the family suffer during this crisis?

News Flash: The Championship Courses are not owned by the Morse family.

RuthA 04-15-2020 07:48 AM

Yeah but I thought prices were supposed to go "down" during the "off season", not up.

John_W 04-15-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RuthA (Post 1746508)
Yeah but I thought prices were supposed to go "down" during the "off season", not up.

I'm not good at math, that's obvious since I couldn't figure the price change was 5.9%, but I can compute that $36 is less than $64.

cassjax2 04-15-2020 09:28 AM

Keep the golf carts OFF the grass (except for handicap) and stay on the golf cart path!! Other than that we’ll have to wait for rain. I’m just saying....

mulligan 04-16-2020 07:55 AM

The solution to the op's problem is falling from the sky as we speak. Now, if we get enough rain, there will be cart restrictions, and real soon now, we will be starting into the aeration schedule. The whining will never stop.

golfing eagles 04-16-2020 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 1747262)
The solution to the op's problem is falling from the sky as we speak. Now, if we get enough rain, there will be cart restrictions, and real soon now, we will be starting into the aeration schedule. The whining will never stop.

Also, only having 18/27 holes open should help

drcar 04-16-2020 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72lions (Post 1746039)
News Flash: The Championship Courses are not owned by the Morse family.

NEWS FLASH: The Championship Courses ARE owned and operated by the Villages, The Morse Family!

Singerlady 04-16-2020 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1745460)
May 1st to Dec 31st afternoon wave starts at 11:56 and a non-priority resident was $34 and is now $36, that's a 12.2% increase. That's all I'm concerned about.

Correction...that’s a 5.8% increase. $2/$34 ....
credentials: former math professional.

golfing eagles 04-16-2020 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1747598)
Correction...that’s a 5.8% increase. $2/$34 ....
credentials: former math professional.

Correction...that's a 5.88235294117647% increase

Credentials: OCD :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

timberpike1 04-16-2020 06:27 PM

Conditions vs. price
 
The problem with the championship courses is the overpricing for the provided product given. The conditions are no where near what they where 5 years ago. Within the last 10 years the fees have doubled and the quality of the playing conditions have greatly decreased. The greens are average, however the fairways have no grass, it would be nice to see over seeding resume as was done prior to the last 3 winters. With the current conditions I would rather drive 30 minutes or more, to play other courses that over seed and are in much better shape all winter and cost $20 to $35 dollars less. Time is not important when you are retired and there are many courses outside the property that take only 5/10 minutes more to get to. The only way CC's will improve is if residents call golf management and state their concerns and/or totally boycott play. Money does talk. If the fairways were over seed again, the water and fertilizer given during the winter months would greatly improve the spring conditions and preserve the regular fairway grass for the summer months.


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