Not legitimate hole-in-one
 

I see all the hole- in- one’s listed in The Daily Sun the past few weeks and wonder seriously you count those under current conditions when they hit the pvc pipe that covers the golf hole. Well, if that makes you feel good, but to me that is not a legitimate hole in one and does not deserve a certificate as such. Personally I’ve seen golf balls hit the hole and bounce a couple feet away. We also found a ball in the hole when we didn’t actually see it roll in because of the hole location to the tee box. Yes, there definitely is some luck involved but as the old saying goes “the harder you work the luckier you get”. Just saying...

It doesn't bother me, let them have their day in the sun. For myself, If it happened to me I wouldn't count it.
Steve

I had one. I did not count it as one and did not report it. I want to take the ball out of the cup.

I am going to count it as an eagle.

I think one could determine if it would have been a hole in one without the pvc. If the ball bounces more that 6-10 inches, I would not count that as a HIO, but each should use their own judgement and their honor.

Why report with or without PVC??


Jus luck & "look at me".


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The Sun now takes about 1 1/2 pages to list all the "Age Breakers", "Eagles", and "H in 1s". That's now about 1/6 of the actual Sun "news" print.

SO many ads, full pages, and TV real estate. Wonder if they laid off some of their contributors and writers.

Just an observation, will not stop our paper - but miss the old days.

The Sun
 

And no local news section today. No staff, nothing to report, or problems with the inserting machine? They don't say, and I did ask. Sunday, no TV section. Still printing the weekly cars section, though, and the meaningless activities weekly insert.

With all due respect, no way (imo).

Just as legit as claiming a hole-in-one made with a mulligan. I had to man shame a dude at the 19th hole at Ramstein AB for trying to pull that one.

No bother
 

Agree with you Steve - doesn’t bother me but I would not count it as a hole-in-one. When you have played golf for a long time you observe a lot of unusual things. Never seen the “retooling” of the golf course like it is now. It’s great that we can play with the unusual changes and at my age I’m just playing for fun anyway. Fore!

How about this for a scenario? Let's say someone finds the sweet spot on the driver on a short par four starting hole. The ball takes a beautiful drawing path, lands just short of the green and rolls onto the putting surface and into the cup. It is then pointed out to the happy golfer after he has finished leaping and shouting, that he has 15 clubs in the bag and has incurred a two-stroke penalty.

That's what happens when you waste your time playing Rinky Dink Golf!

What if it actually goes inside the pvc? I would count that. In the hole is in the hole!

Too bad, it's just a birdie. But, if he only had 14 clubs, he may not have used that club, and would not have made the same shot. Hence, the reason for the rule.

And had it occurred on the third hole, it would have counted.

Only if he removed a club before playing the third hole. As I understand the rule, the 2 stroke penalty applies to every hole played using more than 14 clubs.

"The penalty for carrying too many clubs in your bag is two strokes for each hole where a breach of the rule happened. That means if you have 15 clubs in your bag but don't realize until you're playing the second hole, you will receive a four-stroke penalty."

Four stroke max penalty for this breach.

b. Limit of 14 Clubs; Sharing, Adding or Replacing Clubs During Round
You must not start a round
with more than 14 clubs or have more than 14 clubs during the round
.
If you start a round
with fewer than 14 clubs, you may add clubs during the round
up to the 14-club limit.
When you become aware that you are in breach of this Rule by having more than 14 clubs, you must immediately take the excess club or clubs out of play, using the procedure in Rule 4.1c.
For more information on sharing, adding or replacing clubs, including a limited exception for when you did not cause the damage.
Penalty for Breach of Rule 4.1b: The penalty applies based on when you become aware of the breach:
While playing the hole: The penalty is applied at the end of the hole you are playing. In match play
, you must complete the hole, apply the result of that hole to the match score and then apply the penalty to adjust the match score.
Between two holes: The penalty is applied as of the end of the hole just completed, not the next hole.
Penalty in Match Play - Match Score Revised by Deducting Hole, Maximum of Two Holes:
This is a match adjustment penalty – it is not the same as a loss of hole penalty.
At the end of the hole you are playing or just completed, the match score is revised by deducting one hole for each hole where a breach happened, with a maximum deduction of two holes in the round
.
For example, if you started with 15 clubs and become aware of the breach while playing the 3rd hole and then win that hole to go three up in the match, the maximum adjustment of two holes applies and you would now be one up in the match.
Penalty in Stroke Play - Two Penalty Strokes, Maximum of Four Strokes: You get the general penalty
(two penalty strokes) for each hole where a breach happened, with a maximum of four penalty strokes in the round
(adding two penalty strokes at each of the first two holes where a breach happened).

Thanks, you are correct. Apparently, he could have played the entire round with 15 clubs, and only incurred a 2 stroke penalty for holes 1 and 2. However, I think he would have had to remove a club when he realized the error.

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Your not losing any sleep over this are you.
Does it really matter in the scope of things

Yes, it matters. As someone once said about winning at golf, "It's not a matter of life or death, it's more serious than that."

Pretty cool solution
 

I just happened across this...

A course in Georgia has installed these. Looks like it deals with hole and one issue.

Georgia golf course creates ingenious way to combat coronavirus spread - Golf Digest

Simple and brilliant.

Not sure if you are a golfer, but there are plenty of times the ball SHOULD have gone in, and instead it lips out and stops a few inches from the cup. So, I can't agree to count hitting the pipe as a hole in one.

I have been playing golf for 50 years and never had a hole in one.

But since moving to the Villages, I have had many, many, many. This should tell you something.

When I went to get my first certificate, the stack was 1 foot thick and that was just the "C's"

I do not even turn in my hole in one's now. My golf buddy is up to 8. So there you go.

You all in the Villages are so lucky to have this minor problem. I am stuck up north in Massachusetts and all golf courses in MA, VT, and NH are closed. There are some courses in CT that are open, but very difficult to get a t-time. Also, I heard that some MA golfers were being turned away from the CT courses by police waiting in the parking lots for cars with out of state license plates. And tonight we are supposed to get 5 to 8 inches of wet heavy snow. How I would like to have the problem of determining if I wanted to call hitting a raised cup a hole in one.

It is a pipe dream if you count it as a hole in one

I wouldn't count it either. It has to be legitimate. The fact that there is a significant increase in holes in one, eagles, shooting your age, etc. tells you "there's something wrong with this picture."
But the reason why a number of people are claiming a hole in one in this time of social distancing?? They get to claim the hole in one, but they don't have to buy anyone a drink!!!

It is not a hole and one and the Daily Sun should not be reporting it as one. I laugh each time I see a picture in the paper with someone holding their golf ball with a hole in one caption. You hit the PVC pipe, nothing more nothing less!

Let people enjoy the moment and celebrate, they deserve it. Can’t even high 5.

for me personally.it’s called “HOLE IN one“ for a reason, the first 2 words govern the true meaning

Maybe we need A New cv19 term for the interim, rang the tube, clunk in one, the plastic fantastic.

That is so clever, and yet so simple.
Would save a lot of hole damage if implemented in TV.

Really? We are not playing in PGA sanctioned events out here? How many clubs you have in your bag doesn’t matter !

Who cares?
The certificate you mention will cost you $95.

It's a hole-in-one, with an asterisk.

Not a legitimate hole-in-one
 

Yesterday my friend had one, tee shot up in the air, came down INSIDE the PVC pipe next to the pin and stayed there. We have picture to prove.

I'd call that a true HIO.

My hubby had his tee shot hit the PVC and roll away. He did not count that or turn it in.

I actually hit the PVC pipe on Oakleigh par 4 in two for an Eagle lol felt good but no cigar !

Doesn't matter? Sure, you can carry however many clubs you like and have fun---but you're no longer playing GOLF, just a closely related game of something else.

Not a legitimate hole-in-one
 

That is perfect! Especially, here where it is hard for some men to bend down!

Gotta have those here!

The USGA has officially ruled that hitting a pipe guarding a hole counts as holing the shot.

So, as bad as it may seem, these are holes in one in the eyes of official golf.