Thinking outside the box - accelerating back to normal
 

I understand there is a lot of frustration at staying at home, and some wonder is it worth it? i.e. is the cure worse than the disease, and is it worth giving up our civil liberties?

Here's my idea on making everyone happy. If I were President I would propose the following starting May 1st -

1. People who are compromised or don't feel they wish to play Russian roulette - stay at home like you have been doing already. They will need to stock up on TP, and keep watching Netflix etc. for the entire month of May.

2. For the others who do not fear the virus because they are young, healthy, or just feel immune to it all - we setup Covid-19 stations and beginning May 1st they line up to get their dose of infection. They need to be infected because by May 31st, they will get a card that says they are now immune and can now do whatever they want from that point on - go to parks, go to restaurants and bars (populated with like minded people), get back to work and even visit beaches - they will have all their freedoms back because they can not spread anything. It will be a small price to pay (1% or 2% deaths), but that is what Darwinism is all about. And if they really are strong, there's nothing to worry about.


Now the "participants" have to get infected beginning May 1st because we need to know for certain by May 31st that they had it and survived with immunity. After that they can either enjoy life, or do useful community service for the rest of the people still stuck at home by doing gardening and home delivery of groceries and restaurant orders. Maybe we pay them people $600 per week until they discover a vaccine for everyone else. The big plus is that the folk in 2. will have contributed to herd immunity and they will forever go down as heroes. (statues in every park?) For people in group 1., they will wait a little longer for the vaccine and with so many of the herd now "neutralized" they will not need to worry so much about making the occasional trip outside.

What do you think? Who's ready to start lining up for their dose of Covid-19 beginning May 1st?

I think this solves all the problems ... that's what all this walking has done to me. Given me time to solve the worlds problems.

#Reopen Now

That’s one of the most obnoxious posts yet. Remember karma - what you wish for others, comes back to you double.

You first. Let us know how it works out..

No ... I'm definitely in the 1. camp.

I just want to give the people who think we should get back to normal the chance to think about the option they are in effect choosing.

Your medical degree came from where to give such advice on anything?

Aside from the OP saying those who want to go back to normal get infected with the virus, the rest is spot on. If we just go back to normal then the amount of infections will go up. There is no way around that without a vaccine or effective treatment. This was done to"flatten the curve" not eliminate the virus. Again not happening until there is a vaccine or treatment.
So this is where we are. There are some states/counties where this might not be a big problem but there is a risk. There are also many places where the surge not happened. Remember the numbers we see now those people were infected 2 weeks ago. I personally would proceed with caution.

I want things to get back to something approaching normal but am willing to wait.

That is not true. Most of us are out enjoying our life.

As we were out and about today, we saw a lot of people playing golf, going for walks, sitting with others and socializing, and waiting in front of Paesano's for their food.

Everyone we saw looked happy and they were keeping their distance from others

I think we're being whooshed. However, I like the plan. I want everyone except me to line up to be infected on May 1. By May 31, everyone besides me will be either be dead or immune. Then I'll be good to go. Thanks OP.

Smh....

I like it! It covers those of us who are reluctant to risk infection AND those who either feel that they are immune or that the lives of those who aren't are a small price to pay for 'herd immunity'. It should make basically everybody happy, except maybe those who don't understand irony...

I think you are out of your mind.

Maybe You can get on the Presidents new task force with that OBNOXIOUS train of thought, either that quit walking and correcting the world problems!!

Surely you jest.

I agree 100%. Wait it out. There isn’t even a test that doesn’t take less than 7 to 10 days for results. So we’re pretty far from the general public deciding what’s best. Sit tight and be safe! God Bless.

Does anyone read their own stuff and think wow how did that happen.

Nobody mentioned how this idea would overwhelm the hospitals and exhaust medical staff. Perhaps you were being satirical? If so, then those choosing to throw caution to the wind should not be allowed to go to the hospital. They are on their own in their home.

I believe in "The Theory of Three" as put forth in the book "The Toyota Way"

So, I invite 'skarra' (who made the OP) to purchase a pair of Dr. Scholl's inserts, walk around "gelling" for a couple of days and see if another idea comes up...and take a different route to stimulate your thought process...try walking at different times of the day too

Otherwise it's just this one plan - and we have to take it or leave it! We need an approach that EVERYBODY can get behind

With "The Theory of Three" you have at least one alternative, with which you then begin to modify, taking the best from each approach and create a third solution (and yes you can create as many alternate solutions as you desire)

fingers crossed that he'll follow through

It sure sounds like it to me.

I first I thought this person's message was a spoof on what was going on, but I soon came to realize (s)he was for real. And then I uttered some four-letter words to myself, on top of what we all saw on TV yesterday with the protesters, some with firearms, in East Lansing, Mich.; Richmond, Va.; the president's message; the beaches opening up in Jacksonville today (where is DeSantis?), etc. COVID-19 caused by the coronavirus is silent and invisible, so even though there are those in the U.S. population that think they are invincible, there are two reasons for extreme cause for concern: (1) they are NOT so invincible since the virus strikes at will regardless of age; and (2) their reckless behavior by not social distancing puts the rest of us as responsible citizens/Villagers at risk, again because this deadly enemy can't be seen, felt, smelled or touched. Heaven help us all until we get the testing that is required!

You don’t need a medical degree to espouse common sense. How many degrees do the modelers of those doom and gloom projections, foreseeing 2 million + dead, have? Deaths now projected at no more than a common flu season. The numbers don’t add up, so it’s becoming increasing difficult to maintain faith in models and projections, and forestall my civil liberties based on fallacies.

Exactly which civil rights have you given up? Just answer that one question.

I love your satire. Unfortunately, some did not get it.

So, who will take care of you if our hospitals are overrun (like some states).
Then you'll say "why didn't the government....

Were no way suffering in the bubble my guess is 90% of us are financially stable
Mentally stable not so sure..Were not suffering by any means only experiencing social disconnect from our friends.
I would rather be inconvenience few more weeks..That experience an uptick in the spread of covid cases all we have gained back past few weeks will disappear in an instant

you can't put a date on it

Just look at her profile. University of Sears Roebuck.

I may be wrong, but I thought I had read that you can get it again.

The return to "normal" MUST BE SLOW or the virus will strike again. Out and about mid May WITH MASKS, and social distancing..... Normal from 1st June.....still with precautions... Slow but sure.....

The post gave me a chuckle. As for those getting uptight about it, relax. Do you really the idea from the OP could/would ever get adopted.

Some people don’t understand sarcasm when they see it. Let’s spell it out. Go out and open everyone up to a second round of this terrible disease . They go home and infect their family and friends while they are waiting for the results of the COVID test. Either they die or watch a family member do so because there are entire families being wiped out by this. The alternative is we wait as long as we need to for the numbers to diminish and everyone lives. I choose option 2 as I know people who have lost several family members due to this horrible disease! I hate being couped up alone but I’d rather live and have my family live than go outside into the world. Not really a choice as I see it

I am obviously in the minority here, but I thought your post was hilarious. Great sense of humor Skarra, and your use of sarcasm was right on, but lost on the majority. :icon_wink:

Group 1 for me!
 

I like your thinking! And I choose group 1 with you! I'd like to live and don't wanna take any chances with my life!

Yes, that’s my question too to those obsessed with ‘civil liberties.’ In the wake of COVID-19–dealing with a virus that is unprecedented—please explain in what ways your ‘civil liberties’ have been trammeled on (or worse?)

I know I cannot let my self-will run riot, which I would be doing if I were to reject the best available medical suggestions. People are DYING from this virus; I suspect as they lay dying that their ‘civil liberties’were far from their minds....

Go back to walking.

i saw you there!! everyone was happy & just enjoyed talking to one another

thats how you can tell who has a sense of humor, lol:coolsmiley:

I'm in group 2. I agree with all you have said.

I simply don't understand how a single person who read this post did not get that it was written 100% tongue-in-cheek. Come on, people.

The proposal is crazy, but don't you think its the way it just might happen.
1. Those who feel they have compromising medical conditions, which gives them a higher death percentage will continue to wear masks, believe in "social distancing", stay home and do what they can to protect themselves.
2. Then there are those who feel they will roll the dice and will wear masks and gloves for the first week, shed the gloves the second week, shed the mask the third week, and then since they believe they are invincible just take their chances.
3.Those who get a negative result on the test think they are in good shape, yeah, good shape to be positive the next time they test.
4. A positive test is good (unless you die) since you may be immune to the virus strain you previously had. However only that strain.
5.Herd immunity is good. Visualize the thousands of wildebeest crossing the river, and the crocodiles going "yumm!" . Herd immunity is good as long as you are not one of the appetizers.
6. Testing is good, however it only indicates your condition at the time of the test, nothing that might happen later that same day if you test negative, and it also appears that some can catch it again, even it tested positive.

Medical science is the real answer, hopefully they will develop a medicine to overcome the virus once you have it. It appears there are several being tested currently. Hospitals are gaining knowledge as to how to treat infected individuals, and if we do not overwhelm the system (flatten the curve) survival is greatly increased. Hopefully a vaccine if forthcoming, however from the news that is many months off from being available.

Article twelve of the Bill of Rights reads... The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.