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cleanwater 04-19-2020 01:00 PM

Jump in Coronavirus in Sumter co
 
State data shows huge increase in positive Sumter co coronavirus. Where typically there were only a few a day yesterday 4/18 appears to be 20+. What the heck happened? Why is there no reporting on testing and follow up in paper or county health web site. Biggest thing going and no good information on local status. Even UF WEB site has no discussion on specific results or trends. State web site with data is Experience
Found out that the source of the high positive results were the prison. There were no sudden jumps in coronavirus in the villages.

billethkid 04-19-2020 01:15 PM

Maybe the the external reporting finally caught up with internal recording and reporting .

VApeople 04-19-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cleanwater (Post 1749406)
State data shows huge increase in positive Sumter co coronavirus. Where typically there were only a few a day yesterday 4/18 appears to be 20+. What the heck happened? Why is there no reporting on testing and follow up in paper or county health web site. Biggest thing going and no good information on local status.

If you got more information, would you change your behavior in any way?

We all know what to do to lessen our chances of getting the virus, and we are doing it.

Velvet 04-19-2020 01:55 PM

I think you have to look at zip codes, the numbers in my zip code hadn’t changed in sometime.

hoopsterdad 04-19-2020 02:27 PM

of the new 21 cases reported, 20 were in bushnell. the villages holding steady.

cleanwater 04-19-2020 05:00 PM

Great news for the villages. how did you get location information?

Altavia 04-19-2020 06:31 PM

Sumter coronavirus case count jumps by 21 - News - Daily Commercial - Leesburg, FL

" Of the 21 new people who tested positive, 20 were Bushnell residents, the data showed. One was a resident of The Villages. "

Tom1916 04-19-2020 06:46 PM

Royal Caribbean Cruises’ CEO Richard Fain (photo top in happier days) collected $14,358,919 in compensation in 2019, the cruise line announced two weeks ago in a SEC filing.

Two days earlier, Royal Caribbean announced that it was laying off 25% of its workforce in the United States, due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In addition, Royal Caribbean announced the “early conclusion of many crew contracts.” Last month, Royal Caribbean laid off 1,000 contractors.

Royal Caribbean SEC filings indicate that prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, the cruise line employed approximately 77,000 employees, which includes 70,000 shipboard employees, and 7,000 full-time employees in its shoreside operations.

Mr. Fain has collected an average of $12,000,000 a year in compensation each year for the last 6 years for a total of approximately $72,000,000. He earned $12,422,715 in 2018, $13,343,413 in 2017, $10,405,684 in 2016, $9,388,569 in 2016 and $12,013,878 in 2015.

In the beginning of April, Mr. Fain announced that he was forgoing six months (through the end of September) of his $1,100,000 base salary which turns out to be around $550,000. This may see like a substantial amount of money, but it is only around 3.5% of his compensation last year. Mr. Fain received around $13,100,000 of his compensation in stock awards, incentive plans compensation, increases in his pension plan and other compensation.

And what county has the highest Virus count,?where the ships dumped all the sick passengers that were to St---d to stay home.

jet10s 04-19-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cleanwater (Post 1749406)
State data shows huge increase in positive Sumter co coronavirus. Where typically there were only a few a day yesterday 4/18 appears to be 20+. What the heck happened? Why is there no reporting on testing and follow up in paper or county health web site. Biggest thing going and no good information on local status. Even UF WEB site has no discussion on specific results or trends. State web site with data is Experience

obviously -- more testing == more positives identified

Villageswimmer 04-19-2020 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom1916 (Post 1749538)
Royal Caribbean Cruises’ CEO Richard Fain (photo top in happier days) collected $14,358,919 in compensation in 2019, the cruise line announced two weeks ago in a SEC filing.

Two days earlier, Royal Caribbean announced that it was laying off 25% of its workforce in the United States, due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In addition, Royal Caribbean announced the “early conclusion of many crew contracts.” Last month, Royal Caribbean laid off 1,000 contractors.

Royal Caribbean SEC filings indicate that prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, the cruise line employed approximately 77,000 employees, which includes 70,000 shipboard employees, and 7,000 full-time employees in its shoreside operations.

Mr. Fain has collected an average of $12,000,000 a year in compensation each year for the last 6 years for a total of approximately $72,000,000. He earned $12,422,715 in 2018, $13,343,413 in 2017, $10,405,684 in 2016, $9,388,569 in 2016 and $12,013,878 in 2015.

In the beginning of April, Mr. Fain announced that he was forgoing six months (through the end of September) of his $1,100,000 base salary which turns out to be around $550,000. This may see like a substantial amount of money, but it is only around 3.5% of his compensation last year. Mr. Fain received around $13,100,000 of his compensation in stock awards, incentive plans compensation, increases in his pension plan and other compensation.

And what county has the highest Virus count,?where the ships dumped all the sick passengers that were to St---d to stay home.

Could you please explain your last sentence? You lost me.

Rsenholzi 04-20-2020 05:22 AM

They closed down the testing sites near the villages for over a week due to lack of tests. Then they opened it again for 2 days and closed it again. If you aren’t testing , your numbers won’t rise but instead maintain. It’s seems like a good way to get the state to open up everything again, doesn’t it? Seems like it to me. Watch the numbers rise again as soon as they get the tests especially now that the gov is leaving opening up the counties to them . Look at Jacksonville’s beaches

dougjb 04-20-2020 05:34 AM

There will be no published increase in numbers of COVID patients until there is more testing. If there is no testing, everyone thinks there is no problem with this pandemic. Moreover, not all people who have this disease are being reported. Case in point, a couple who are neighbors became sick as dogs after an early March plane trip. They had the EMT's at their house at least two times but were not transported to the hospital. The woman was finally tested. The man was not. I saw the man a bit later in his front yard watering his plants. In our across the street chat (he was wearing neither gloves nor mask), he told me he was feeling better (although he had lost 20 pounds) so the previous day he had walked to the postal station to pick up his mail. Presumably, he did so without face mask or gloves. He had never been tested. The next day I found out from another neighbor that the woman had tested positive for COVID. Here is how the stats would be reported. During their illness, neither of them would have counted as being positive for COVID. Neither would have been reported as sick. As they recuperate, the woman would have been reported as positive. He would not have been. I am sure their situation is not unique. The numbers we see are vastly underreported. Are you ready to go to your postal station without gloves and mask now?

Shadia328 04-20-2020 05:47 AM

Unbelievable, and so very sad.

davem4616 04-20-2020 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cleanwater (Post 1749406)
State data shows huge increase in positive Sumter co coronavirus. Where typically there were only a few a day yesterday 4/18 appears to be 20+. What the heck happened? Why is there no reporting on testing and follow up in paper or county health web site. Biggest thing going and no good information on local status. Even UF WEB site has no discussion on specific results or trends. State web site with data is Experience



what do you think happened.....the number of people infected/dead can skyrocket overnight

counting heads isn't going to change anything

be safe, practice social distancing and wear a mask if you have to go out for an essential reason

do your job

kaniess 04-20-2020 06:11 AM

Intrestingly all 21 of the new Sumter county positives are men, reportedly 20 reside in Bushnell. Age range is 30 to 71 years.

Love2Swim 04-20-2020 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 1749641)
There will be no published increase in numbers of COVID patients until there is more testing. If there is no testing, everyone thinks there is no problem with this pandemic. Moreover, not all people who have this disease are being reported. Case in point, a couple who are neighbors became sick as dogs after an early March plane trip. They had the EMT's at their house at least two times but were not transported to the hospital. The woman was finally tested. The man was not. I saw the man a bit later in his front yard watering his plants. In our across the street chat (he was wearing neither gloves nor mask), he told me he was feeling better (although he had lost 20 pounds) so the previous day he had walked to the postal station to pick up his mail. Presumably, he did so without face mask or gloves. He had never been tested. The next day I found out from another neighbor that the woman had tested positive for COVID. Here is how the stats would be reported. During their illness, neither of them would have counted as being positive for COVID. Neither would have been reported as sick. As they recuperate, the woman would have been reported as positive. He would not have been. I am sure their situation is not unique. The numbers we see are vastly underreported. Are you ready to go to your postal station without gloves and mask now?

This is what infuriates me about these people who claim it is "their right" to do whatever they want, and that the State should be opened up. B.S. We have idiots like your neighbors who just don't think about the consequences of their actions, which can affect the rest of us, no matter how careful we are..Besides the post office, they may have gone to the grocery store and contaminated surfaces. At the post office they could have come into close contact with people if they were walking around the corner to their mailbox, etc. I'm sorry for them that they were sick. Losing twenty pounds is just horrible. But we can't rely on the public to self regulate themselves. I don't think people are really very good at it. We are looking at all the people on the beach in close contact, since the beaches have been re-opened. Not a good thing.

lesser160@aol.com 04-20-2020 06:36 AM

As of yesterday, it was reported that there are 73 confirmed cases in The Villages.
It will continue to get worse until more people follow the rules and stop thinking that they are special and exempt and continue to bend them

Travelhunter 04-20-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1749662)
what do you think happened.....the number of people infected/dead can skyrocket overnight

counting heads isn't going to change anything

be safe, practice social distancing and wear a mask if you have to go out for an essential reason

do your job

I agree we all have to protect each other.
Perhaps if there was more testing and the positive cases increased some people would become more serious
Maybe even do their jobs

Travelhunter 04-20-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1749667)
This is what infuriates me about these people who claim it is "their right" to do whatever they want, and that the State should be opened up. B.S. We have idiots like your neighbors who just don't think about the consequences of their actions, which can affect the rest of us, no matter how careful we are..Besides the post office, they may have gone to the grocery store and contaminated surfaces. At the post office they could have come into close contact with people if they were walking around the corner to their mailbox, etc. I'm sorry for them that they were sick. Losing twenty pounds is just horrible. But we can't rely on the public to self regulate themselves. I don't think people are really very good at it. We are looking at all the people on the beach in close contact, since the beaches have been re-opened. Not a good thing.

My neighbors went on a “cheap cruise “ and didn’t believe in social distancing

kendi 04-20-2020 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cleanwater (Post 1749406)
State data shows huge increase in positive Sumter co coronavirus. Where typically there were only a few a day yesterday 4/18 appears to be 20+. What the heck happened? Why is there no reporting on testing and follow up in paper or county health web site. Biggest thing going and no good information on local status. Even UF WEB site has no discussion on specific results or trends. State web site with data is Experience

Here is the information you are looking for. It updates daily.
Experience

cleanwater 04-20-2020 07:09 AM

Nice that some one actually responded with facts. Thank you for the Bushnell information. Too bad local news or our county health department doesn’t report significant coronavirus change and explain what happened to get the dramatic uptick in cases. Thanks again Robbie!

JackRussell 04-20-2020 07:22 AM

You're right. The absence of government reporting and real journalism in the area risks people's lives. Truth-laundering may sell houses but it's bad policy in the long run.

Rebel Pirate 04-20-2020 08:00 AM

Quote from the Article in the Daily Commercial
 
“Here’s breakdown of the testing numbers:

Sumter
Total tests: 1,525
Positive: 125
Percent positive: 10%”

This is an example of less than great reporting. The raw data here yields a positive rate of 8.2%, not the reported 10%. The reported rate is obviously wrong just from looking at the data…I didn’t have to pull out a calculator to determine that. This undermines public confidence in the information being reported, when it’s so obviously incorrect on the face of it. :ohdear:

msilagy 04-20-2020 08:02 AM

I thought the 20 in Bushnell were from the prison?

Stu from NYC 04-20-2020 08:08 AM

I wonder how accurate the numbers are in the first place.

Someone wakes up has symptoms speaks to his doctor who tell them you probably have the virus but stay home and call if symptoms worsen.

Does he get counted?

cleanwater 04-20-2020 08:08 AM

Thank you Robbie for replying with some facts. Nice to have a reply with facts!

Villageswimmer 04-20-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lesser160@aol.com (Post 1749685)
As of yesterday, it was reported that there are 73 confirmed cases in The Villages.
It will continue to get worse until more people follow the rules and stop thinking that they are special and exempt and continue to bend them


Not disputing your number, but where do you find data for just The Villages? Thanks.

geedad 04-20-2020 08:16 AM

They are all located in the Sumter State Prison. The State updated all of their prison numbers this weekend.

Jsussle 04-20-2020 08:22 AM

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT JUST PLAIN COMMON SENSE.

People who follow Trump or the Governor will certainly die, We watch all the news and made our decision, plus we have family in the medical profession. This stuff is REAL. Young people 30 and 40 years old with no underlying health problems are dying. Listen to the Dr Fauci, he has no political ax to grind he has been there thru several presidents Republican and Democrat

Mleeja 04-20-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1749830)
Not disputing your number, but where do you find data for just The Villages? Thanks.

On the Florida Department of Health website you can see the number of cases by zip code. The Villages is “mainly” 32162. I know there are other zip codes for The Villages... The 73 quoted above is likely a total of 32162, 32163, and 32159. But then there maybe some cases that are not actually in The Villages.

Bay Kid 04-20-2020 08:38 AM

Not to worry, the government will take care of us.

Guitarman1951 04-20-2020 09:02 AM

Well, being a retired corporate financial controller. I can tell you that isn't that easy to really know the financial situation of a company without looking at the profit and loss and balance sheet statements. What was their % return on sales before and after, the costs if operation before and after the shutdown, cash flow, etc. Without any revenue coming in, I'm sure they are scrambling to cover the cost of those huge ships that are out of operation. The costs of idle ships have to be substantial. Ships systems and mechanics have to continue to be maintained, along large docking fees, etc. Stockholders will want to know that expense cuts are made anywhere possible. The CEO's compensation may seem exorbitant to you but, seeing the amounts you listed, are less than I would have expected and certainly not out of the norm. When you have the total responsibility of a company's success or failure on your shoulders, the compensation has to be comparable to other companies to attract the best person possible. If you want to put that into comparison to about every pro athletic compensation, it's not even close and they have no responsibility for a company and people's lives. Those companies have to survive if jobs are to return when this horrible time is over. So if you want to complain about high salaries, complain about twisted values we have placed on friggen sports and movie stars, and the completely exorbitant salaries of these people, who have none this kind of responsibility on their shoulders.

eschiavo 04-20-2020 09:02 AM

The Villages in Sumter county 67 positive cases. Lake in TV 9.

Villageswimmer 04-20-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by geedad (Post 1749833)
They are all located in the Sumter State Prison. The State updated all of their prison numbers this weekend.


Do you mean the Coleman Federal Correctional?

pmken2 04-20-2020 09:27 AM

I saw online news that of the 21 new cases in Sumter, 20 were in Bushnell and 1 in Villages.

Altavia 04-20-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pmken2 (Post 1749928)
I saw online news that of the 21 new cases in Sumter, 20 were in Bushnell and 1 in Villages.

COVID-19 cases reported in 54 Florida prisons

"Sumter Correctional Institution also has been impacted by the virus, with three inmates and two workers testing positive for COVID-19 and tests on 39 inmates pending, officials said. The Bushnell prison, which can house up to 1,639 inmates, has 484 inmates in isolation or quarantine, officials said."

odyboys7 04-20-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by eschiavo (Post 1749896)
The Villages in Sumter county 67 positive cases. Lake in TV 9.

what about the villages in marion county? how many there The Villages in Sumter county 67 positive cases. Lake in TV 9.

Flamingodoll 04-20-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 1749641)
There will be no published increase in numbers of COVID patients until there is more testing. If there is no testing, everyone thinks there is no problem with this pandemic. Moreover, not all people who have this disease are being reported. Case in point, a couple who are neighbors became sick as dogs after an early March plane trip. They had the EMT's at their house at least two times but were not transported to the hospital. The woman was finally tested. The man was not. I saw the man a bit later in his front yard watering his plants. In our across the street chat (he was wearing neither gloves nor mask), he told me he was feeling better (although he had lost 20 pounds) so the previous day he had walked to the postal station to pick up his mail. Presumably, he did so without face mask or gloves. He had never been tested. The next day I found out from another neighbor that the woman had tested positive for COVID. Here is how the stats would be reported. During their illness, neither of them would have counted as being positive for COVID. Neither would have been reported as sick. As they recuperate, the woman would have been reported as positive. He would not have been. I am sure their situation is not unique. The numbers we see are vastly underreported. Are you ready to go to your postal station without gloves and mask now?

What's the difference in that and the flu. It sounds like to me they are going to be OK! This pandemic has been blown way out of proportion. They shut the whole country down because of New York, New Jersey and Mass. You have governors that have gone way out of their pay grade. Oh, they are still getting paid.

Ronnieslager 04-20-2020 10:14 AM

This is no surprise to any woman.

Bolsadd 04-20-2020 11:36 AM

Unfortunately not everybody is doing it


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